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6.09.2008

 

First day on job

Today is Dennise Casey's first day on the job as Gov. Jim Douglas' 2008 campaign manager. Last week, she was his secretary of civil and military affairs (i.e. general all-around staffer), but now she has switched over to the campaign, as she did two years ago.

Casey didn't waste much time in putting out an e-mail criticizing Democratic challenger Gaye Symington over the upcoming sales-tax holiday. Douglas proposed it. Symington went along with it while saying it wouldn't do much. Says Casey:

"Gaye Symington’s opposition to the sales tax holiday is proof positive
that she is out of touch with the needs of Vermonters. During these difficult
economic times, we can and should take steps to give working families tax
relief."



The e-mail includes comments from people quoted in the media who think the sales-tax-free weekend in July is the bee's knees. It conveniently does not include comments from people who were quoted who were more luke warm or thought it's much ado about nothing, though those comments existed in some of those same stories.

Keeping in mind that the sales tax holiday does not include cars, gasoline, items over $2,000 and business purchases (you still pay the tax on those) or clothes and food (you already don't have to pay taxes on those), will you be going out of your way to make a purchase and save the tax money July 12-13?

Do you take sales tax into consideration when pondering a purchase?

If you typically travel to New Hampshire to avoid sales tax, do you figure the gas mileage involved in the trip?

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
Gaye Symington will be buying an Epilady for her sales tax holiday.
 
Let's see how many cars come from NH to shop in VT. We do have some stores and the change of scenery for the 'Shires is welcomed. If no one spends money then the state hasn't lost anything except political hot air!
 
Is there any evidence that tax holidays have been effective in the past?
 
Read the research. The conservative group called The Tax Foundation says that Sales Tax holidays don't work.

"Evidence from the State of New York shows that tax holidays do not increase overall sales of retail goods ... "

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1742.html

Read the facts. Do a little research.
 
Yes, the evidence is next door -- New Hampshire!

The Legislature should study how many dollars flow over to NH every year to take advantage of their "tax holiday".
 
What a boner press release this is. All the issues confronting Vermonters and this political novice pounces on the sales tax? That bodes well for Pollina and Symington.

Maybe Ms. Casey can use her sales tax to buy herself a name that's spelled correctly. Two "n's"? Why? Momma wanted her little gal to be different.
 
All around staffers are paid $62,500? Nice gig if you can get it. From what I hear, during the session, she mostly just hung around in the statehouse cafeteria with some other female staff person. Now we know the real purpose was to campaign for Jimmy on the public's dime. Makes me ill.
 
"Tax Holidays" don't do anything to stimulate the economic growth. It's a stupid gimmick for the factually challenged GOP.
 
I know a number of people (including myself) who are planning big purchases (furniture, appliances, home improvement items, etc.) for the sales tax holiday weekend. We're eager to take advantage of the opportunity to support local businesses while saving some $. People who oppose the sales tax holiday and call it a gimmick should spend some time with ordinary Vermonters (something Symington never does), as well as Vermont retailers, who advocated strongly for the holiday. If it helps VT businesses and VT consumers it's a win-win.
 
^^ Look at the states that have already done it. It hasn't helped them one bit.

There is even evidence that RETAILERS RAISE THEIR PRICES durring the tax holiday ... so YOU PAY THE SAME AMOUNT.

A little research goes a long way.
 
You pay the same amount or more ... because the stores will raise their prices durring this "holiday".
 
Yeah, Mr/Ms. Gullible, and suspending the gas tax for the summer will help average Vermonters too. Some folks will believe anything. As WC Fields once said "There's a sucker born every minute (and they believe in sales and gas tax holidays)."
 
"Tax holidays" are nothing but a manifestation of conservative guilt. Suddenly, they realize they've been taking the wrong people -- those without the money -- and then they throw us some crumbs.

Like those little Bush rebate checks, they're counting on our stupidity to cheer at the arrival of crumbs.

I'm waiting for Hallmarks' special edition "Tax Holiday" cards. Personally, I'll be buying the one crafter for your mother. It'll read: Sorry about not helping you with food this month, but I'm buying a tax-free 'fridge'!"
 
NEK said...

"Let's see how many cars come from NH to shop in VT. We do have some stores and the change of scenery for the 'Shires is welcomed. If no one spends money then the state hasn't lost anything except political hot air!"

So much nekwit nonsense, so little time.

Actually, nekkie boy, my Wife is a native of Woodstock. That's where we lived, owned our home, payed our taxes and raised our kids until they'd both graduated from WUHS and we moved on.

I can remember when Rich's first came to West Leb in '69 or '70, the Vt Sales Tax was only two or three cents and you had to spend 100 bucks to save two or three. People shopped in West Leb because it was half the distance to Rutland and a hell of a lot easier to get to.

New Hampshire people may come here to see the sights, but they're not going to come here to shop because they already have a wide array of shopping choices where they live. Furthermore, now that the gops have totally screwed up the price of gas and heating oil so badly that people have been forced to tighten their belts with respect to discretionary income, your ludicrous contention that a sales tax holiday would be an accurate system of measure of the effect the Vermont sales tax has on business based on the number of New Hampshire residents who shop here, is idiotic - even by your lunatic-fringe standards.

Given location and the exchange rate, Canadians are going to spend a lot more money in Chittenden County and Vermont than New Hampshire Residents ever would under any circumstances.

First of all, nekkie boy, there's a hell of a lot more of them. That's why Jay Peak was taking their money at par 15-20 years ago when the exchange rate was 63 cents/dollar. Jay Peak is a successful operation because they're smart enough to know who their target market is, where the bulk of their comes from and that 63 percent of a lot of something is a hell of a lot better than 100 percent of bupkis.

You, evidently, haven't made that connection.

Moreover, the tax holiday will only deprive the State of needed tax revenue to repair our crumbling roads and bridges which have gone to hell under the Bush/Doogie Debacle, so, once again, you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Ya see, international and interstate commerce requires a good infrastructure in good condition. Without it, businesses can't get raw materials to manufacture products, goods and services can't be delivered or get to market, employees can't get to and from work and customers can't get to market to purchase said goods and services.

Bear that in mind the next time you feel the urge to say something stupid like "Government doesn't create jobs or help the economy.", little factually-challenged fella.

It's what ya call a symbiotic relationship.
Look it up. Learn something.

Always a pleasure.
Dismissed.
 
Symington for Governor!
 
JwCoop is ruining this blog.
 
Coop- you have lost it- I stopped reading your dribble a long time ago- you are an expert at zip, although you think you the greatest political consultant on the planet.
The first thing your Nancy Pelosi said after the last election, and she was with her pal Reid, was that they were going to lower the cost of oil/gas. Was that $2.00 ago? Bush and Cheney might be considered idiots but they did not stand in Pelosi's way and she still couldn't get it done. The dumocrats just don't have a clue and they have good company with JWCOOP.
 
NEK has left a new comment on the post "First day on job":

"Coop- you have lost it- I stopped reading your dribble a long time ago- you are an expert at zip, although you think you the greatest political consultant on the planet."

What's the matter, little fella? Can't ya get your grand kids to read 'em to you and explain them to ya?

Gee, that's a shame.

Actually, it's just that, unlike your ignorant, ill-informed ass, I can distinguish up from down, my ass from my elbow and I know what day it is, little factually-challenged fella.

You, on the other hand, are ignorant trash with bupkis without a case or a clue who can't substantiate a single instance of the factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, utterly- psychotic your ignorant, ill-informed, nekwit nonsense you've been spewin' since ya got here, nekkie boy.

Clearly, the delusional dreck you've been dolin' out today is no exception.

"The first thing your Nancy Pelosi said after the last election, and she was with her pal Reid, was that they were going to lower the cost of oil/gas. Was that $2.00 ago? Bush and Cheney might be considered idiots but they did not stand in Pelosi's way and she still couldn't get it done."

Really? Well, you're half right, anyhow. Bush and Cheney are idiots. Criminal idiots.

Apart from that, you better check the record again, little factually-challenged fella. Until enough Gops finally went along with the measure to stop adding to the SPR last month, like the Climate Change Legislation last week, the Gops in Congress have been playing politics, filibustering' and goin' along with Shrub on everything allowin' him to veto everything they've sent up to him and preventing them from overriding it, so, once again, you've provided another example of the fundamental fact that you're ignorant-trash with bupkis, can't substantiate a damned thing you say and just plain don't know what the fook you're talkin' about.

In other words, just an average example of one of your ludicrous, factually-challenged, lunatic-fringe posts.

Always a pleasure.
Dismissed.
 
If Douglas can afford to be without Duhnnise's services for several months, then why is she a staffer at all? Seems like a prime example of the runaway growth Douglas wants people to think he's taking care of. Start by getting rid of this obviously superfluous staffer.
 
All some stupid Democrat Senators could say about the sales tax holiday was "gee, people might spend a lot of money that weekend" and "we'll lose a lots of tax reveune" duh! It's real telling that all the dumocrats can think about is tax revenue and not about the Vermonters that a holiday will benefit. Symington for Guv? Give me a break. She is the reason Vermont is "stuck in neutral"
 
I belive the question was "do you take sales tax into account" My answer is yes, very much so. I live somewhat near to the NH border and many of my purchases are made there. Not so much to avoid the tax but because that's wherethe business is. All along the Connecticut River on the NH side is robust business becuase of the lack of the tax.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "First day on job":

"I belive the question was "do you take sales tax into account" My answer is yes, very much so. I live somewhat near to the NH border and many of my purchases are made there. Not so much to avoid the tax but because that's wherethe business is. All along the Connecticut River on the NH side is robust business becuase of the lack of the tax."

Like I said, little factually-challenged fella, my wife is from Woodstock and we bought our house, payed taxes and raised our family there until they graduated High School and went off to UVM.

Yes, the malls are on the NH side of the river and there's no doubt that the sales tax is a factor in their being there. There's also no doubt that Claremont is in NH and has no sales tax yet it is a comparative ghost town when compared to the retail/business development in West Leb and WRJ because they're conveniently located and readily accessible to the Junction of I-89 and I-91.

Is it your clueless cretin contention that there's no development on the Vermont side of the Connecticut River, little factually-challenged/nameless-nitwit fella?

If the sales tax is the determining factor, why isn't Claremont the boomtown West Lebanon is?

That's what I thought.

Access to I-89 and I-91 is the primary factor, little fella. Location, location, location.

Again, since Ike was behind the Interstate Highway System and the Federal Government is responsible for the lion's share of it's construction and maintenance as in the case of the I-35 Bridge over the Mississippi linking Minneapolis and St Paul that collapsed last year during rush hour traffic killing 13 people and injuring 100 or so more.

Again, bear that in mind the next time you feel the need to spout some utterly-psychotic, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest gop-slop nonsense argument that government doesn't create jobs, little factually-challenged fella. It creates a lot of them.

Clearly, it made a lot of work for first responders and construction repair work on 8/1/07.

Do ya think Walmart would be in Williston if there was no Exit 12?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.
Dismissed.
 
I agree with an earlier poster. If our governor does not require the services of this person for five or six months every two years, then why is she on staff to begin with? We're sitting on pins and needles waiting for the governor to start downsizing, worried sick about making ends meet and this person is given a free pass with a certain return to employment after finishing the campaign. It would be nice if our governor would lead by example and share the pain.
 
If you read the paper you would know that there is a state government target for reduction of exempt positions as well as classified positions. The only reason classified employees are "sitting on pins and needles" is because of VSEA fear tactics. Position elimination is happening through attrition and retirement, which is better than most states where they are laying off workers by the thousands. The Governor put a freeze on COLAs for exempt positions so those people are certainly going to be "feeling the pain" as costs continue to rise and salaries don't (unlike the rest of state employees who will get COLAs). The Governor is leading by example, but unfortunatley, the legislature isn't following suit - once again they voted to give themselves a pay raise this year, and pat themselves on the back for doing nothing.
 
JWCOOP10 said... "If the sales tax is the determining factor, why isn't Claremont the boomtown West Lebanon is?

That's what I thought.

Access to I-89 and I-91 is the primary factor, little fella. Location, location, location."

Are you saying access to I89 and I91 are the reason NH is booming and VT is not? You can't be serious. You are a true nut job. Access in NH exists because the State had a plan for development of the region and its state's economic base. VT doesn't and in fact has consistently fought against it tooth and nail as it has with Wal-Mart, Lowes and any number of other businesses contemplating developing in the State.... something about preserving the VT brand, can’t trust the corporate plunderers, etc. If there was a viable need for an Exit on the Interstate, it would undoubtedly be built.

Coopy goes on to rant... "Again, since Ike was behind the Interstate Highway System and the Federal Government is responsible for the lion's share of it's construction and maintenance as in the case of the I-35 Bridge over the Mississippi linking Minneapolis and St Paul that collapsed last year during rush hour traffic killing 13 people and injuring 100 or so more."

A series of thoughts here:
(a) Grammatically, this is not a complete sentence; (b) Are you suggesting Ike is responsible for the collapse of the I35 bridge?; (c) Are you suggesting Ike's Interstate program is the reason there is no sales tax in NH or; (d) Are you suggesting he colluded with other Repubs to intentionally deny VT its fair share of Exits thereby sentencing it to its existence as an underperforming business unfriendly economy?

I can only attribute this utterly-psychotic, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest dem-slop nonsense argument to the late time of day you posted it and the likelihood that it was posted after your nightly dance with Wild Irish Rose.
 
Are the right-wingers here saying that we should eliminate the sales tax? Because that is a lot different than the "tax holiday" gimmick promoted by Douglas and passed by the legislature.
 
"Position elimination is happening through attrition and retirement"

Yeah, sure it is. I see you drank the Kool Aid Jason.
 
^^
True That!

And most "average" Vermonters aren't earning $60,000 plus like the poor exempt employees that are not seeing their COLA. I think the average for "average" is $38,000. Better find a better argument cause there ain't no tears for exempts from this worker.
 
There is a good reason the average is as low as it is. There is no significant business. We live off tourism and farming..two notoriously low paying sectors. If you want to do better, as a State we need to be more business friendly, something most of you are not willing to do. You have gotten what you asked for. Quit complaining.
 
Anonymous said..."Maybe Ms. Casey can use her sales tax to buy herself a name that's spelled correctly. Two "n's"? Why? Momma wanted her little gal to be different."

Much like your Momma wanted you to be different when she named you Leslie?
 
Anonymous said...

JWCOOP10 said... "If the sales tax is the determining factor, why isn't Claremont the boomtown West Lebanon is?

That's what I thought.

Access to I-89 and I-91 is the primary factor, little fella. Location, location, location."

"Are you saying access to I-89 and I91 are the reason NH is booming and VT is not? You can't be serious."

Just which part of "If the sales tax is the determining factor, why isn't Claremont the boomtown West Lebanon is?" is giving your ignorant anonymous ass trouble, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/ignorant-trash with bupkis fella?

"... Access in NH exists because the State had a plan for development of the region and its state's economic base. VT doesn't and in fact has consistently fought against it tooth and nail as it has with Wal-Mart, Lowes and any number of other businesses contemplating developing in the State...."

Is it your coalition of the clueless cretin contention that Claremont is not located in the State of New Hampshire, little factually-challenged/evidently-illiterate fella?

Perhaps you can get nekwit's grand kids to read them to your ignorant anonymous ass while they're readin' them to him, little fella.

"something about preserving the VT brand, can’t trust the corporate plunderers, etc."

In other words, you're dumb, you're scum, ya got bupkis for evidence to substantiate your delusional dreck and ya don't know your ignorant, ill-informed ass from your elbow.

Thanks for clearin' that up, little fella. It's not exactly new information but, given your special status, I appreciate your feeble gesture all the same.

"...If there was a viable need for an Exit on the Interstate, it would undoubtedly be built."

Well, since State Governments have the authority to locate interstate exits where they see fit as long as they adhere to Federal Guidelines since the Feds provide most of the funding, that's true, little fella.

"Coopy goes on to rant... "Again, since Ike was behind the Interstate Highway System and the Federal Government is responsible for the lion's share of it's construction and maintenance as in the case of the I-35 Bridge over the Mississippi linking Minneapolis and St Paul that collapsed last year during rush hour traffic killing 13 people and injuring 100 or so more."

"A series of thoughts here:
(a) Grammatically, this is not a complete sentence; (b) Are you suggesting Ike is responsible for the collapse of the I35 bridge?; (c) Are you suggesting Ike's Interstate program is the reason there is no sales tax in NH or; (d) Are you suggesting he colluded with other Repubs to intentionally deny VT its fair share of Exits thereby sentencing it to its existence as an underperforming business unfriendly economy?"

No. No. No. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong and you're wrong about that, too, little factually-challenged/semi-functionally-illiterate fella.

Again, is it your clueless-cretin contention that Ike was not behind the Interstate Highway System, little fella?

By virtue of that fact, is it your clueless-cretin contention that the Interstate Highway System is not Federal by virtue of the fact that it crosses state lines, little too-dumb-to-waste-oxygen-on fella?

Just what does your ignorant anonymous ass think the term interstate means, schmuck?

Again, since the construction and maintenance of the Federal Interstate Highway System is primarily a federal responsibility, like the failure of the Levee System in New Orleans, the collapse of the I-35 Bridge is evidence that under the current regime the Feds have not been holding up their end of the bargain and they've been doing a lousy job.

What's more, since Ike's primary motivation for the Interstate Highway System was National Security, knowing how you loons feel about "original intent", one could easily argue that this is yet another example of Bush/Gop failure on that front, too, little factually-challenged fella.

As for your ignorant, anonymous ass's alleged "thoughts", little fella, as I've said on numerous occasions, your next thought will be your first. That situation remains unchanged and I'm still saying it.

Simply put, your ignorant anonymous ass remains dumb, scum and you continue to have bupkis as you continue to make this always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
Someone has WAY too much time on his hands.
 
Tell me JW, do they have air conditioning in asylum?
 
Everyone now knows that Gov Douglas proposed a bogus Economic Stimulus pkg -saying it was worth $200 million.

And we know that one of the state economists reviewed it and said it was probably worth about $40-60 million. And he stated that the 400 state job cuts essentially negates this economic stimulus pkg.

The average Vermonter will have to SPEND $1000 to get a $60 savings.
 
Jim "Smoke and Mirrors" Douglas at it again.
 
Denise Casey, Jason Gibbs, Neale Lunderville, Rob Roper are all the same - and now Tayt Brooks will follow.

They are nasty and will stretch the truth to a lie if it makes Douglas look good! They all learned their trade under Karl Rove and George Bush.
 
We all know the Governor is all about "Buying Vermont" to help our economy, RIGHT!?

Well, strong rumor has it that, current VTrans Secretary and soon to be Administration Secretary, Neale Lunderville just bought a new car --- in New Hampshire!

Governor Douglas and his administration have a new motto:
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!
 
Douglas is looking more and more like George Bush as time goes on!
 
It's not about good policy or what's right for teh state!

It IS about what's good for Douglas' re-election!
 
JWCoop has offered his/her fellow citizens here nothing more than vitriol filled tirades. Why is it necessary to denigrate the other participants/citizens? Generally speaking the strength of one's argument should be sufficient and to resort to insults usually is an indication of a weak argument. The concept of civil discourse has really been lost here.
 
Did Lunderville's new New Hampshire car have training wheels?

What a slap in the face to Vermont car dealers. Couldn't he have waited until the sales tax holiday?
 
Vehicles are exempt from the tax "holiday"
 
Why not buy local? The governor tells us to. Why shouldn't he? Why shouldn't his staff?
 
The Governor buys locally at his home on Martha's Vineyard. There is no need to buy locally in Vermont.
 
Terri - you start a blog story and frame it with an opinion that will certainly lead readers to a biased point of view. Gayes camp. Have fun voting for her.

Maybe you should just post the email and ask what others think ... Let the people decide from the real source not your liberal comments at the end. there is much more to the tax relief than you suggest. You should go work for 7 Days.
 
ouch
 
Anonymous said...

JWCoop has offered his/her fellow citizens here nothing more than vitriol filled tirades. Why is it necessary to denigrate the other participants/citizens? Generally speaking the strength of one's argument should be sufficient and to resort to insults usually is an indication of a weak argument. The concept of civil discourse has really been lost here.

The concept of civil discourse, eh?

In other words, you want to go back to the good ol' days with all anonymous nitwits all the time "civilly discussing" Gaye Symington's gargoyle family tree, fashion sense and need to purchase an epilady during the tax holiday.

Gee, that's a shame. Go cheney yourself, chump. The next serious point or legitimate argument any of you nameless nitwits advance will be your first.

Get over yourself, schmuck. There is nothing legitimate about your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, bigoted-trash views or your ignorant anonymous ass.

You're dumb, you're scum and ya got bupkis and unless and until you prove otherwise, I'm gonna keep rakin' your ignorant anonymous asses over the coals with the facts as long as the spirit moves me and now that the weather has broken, it's movin' me pretty good so far.

Nice talkin' to ya.
Dismissed.




12:48 PM, June 10, 2008
 
So who exactly is adminstering to civil and military affairs now that Douglas has cut Casey loose to go out and play for six months? This is a position mandated by the Vermont constitution, I think. Guess we see how little emphasis Jim places on these issues and on our constitution. But why should we expect anything more from Bush's campaign manager?
 
You pay the same amount or more ... because the stores will raise their prices durring this "holiday".
Post from 06/09

I don't think retailers are going to take the time to increase their merchandise by 6%. A typical hardware store has 4000-6000 items. Get real!
Now we know where the term "Dumocrats" comes from!
 
Another great post by Coopy....

Paragraph 1 - Copied and pasted

Paragraph 2 - Coop's original work but a non-sentence.

Paragraph 3 - Coop's original work paraphrasing earlier comments.

Paragraph 4 - Insults copied and pasted from Coop's approved playbook.

Paragraph 5 - More insults copied and pasted from Coop's approved playbook.

Paragraph 6 - Even more insults copied and pasted from Coop's approved playbook.

Paragraph 7 - Coopy's pre-approved, copied and pasted gratuitous sign-off.


JWCoop, the Great Communicator...
JWCoop, the Great Unifier...
JWCoop, the Master of the Copy and Paste function.
 
That's an even better posting Coopy. It is entirely copied and pasted from your pre-approved playbook.


Good for you. You can't get in trouble when you play it by the numbers.
 
Denise Casey's job is mandated by the Vermont constitution, so it's a good question. They'll probably have Jason Gibbs do it, since he's got no real news to get out to the public, unless he's consdiering reporting the constant cricket chirping noises coming from the governor's office. Maybe they'll even toss Jason a few extra shekels for his added duties.
 
Coopy- you are showing your ignorance. You obviously have never worked in retail- unless it was a Kool-Aid stand. A Rhodes Scholar you're not.
 
I missed your point- could you clarify that!
 
NEK, you know better. Coop has no points, just insults. Original thought is not his strong suit.
 
Take your meds.
 
"I don't think retailers are going to take the time to increase their merchandise by 6%. A typical hardware store has 4000-6000 items. Get real!"

A typical hardware store is automated to the extent that they can update pricing of every part in the store with a few dozen key strokes. It's easy and fast.

It isn't rocket science and this isn't the 1950's.
 
More likely, retailers will promote the sales tax holiday INSTEAD of a previously planned sales promotion.

Every 6% tax break someone gets on a toaster (made in Taiwan) needs to be paid for by the rest of the Vermont tax payers.

So we will have discounted retail sales prices that are funded by tax payers instead of by the retailers - with most of the benefit going to out of state retailers and/or out of state/country producers.

This sounds dumb to me.
 
Will the press please find out who is adminstering civil and miltary affairs for the state while this Casey woman is out pimping for her boss? It is a constitutional position and while the governor might take that lightly, many Vermonters do not.
 
post 4:03- You mean to say that there are no prices on merchandise in your store. I know it is easy to change prices with 1 keystoke but that cannot change ALL the prices in the store plus bin tickets. No thanks, I will not hire you to run my retail operation. If you charge a different price than your ticket that is illegal.
 
NEK said...

"post 4:03- You mean to say that there are no prices on merchandise in your store. I know it is easy to change prices with 1 keystoke but that cannot change ALL the prices in the store plus bin tickets. No thanks, I will not hire you to run my retail operation..."

What retail operation is that, nekkie boy?

You can do all of that with one "keystoke", eh?

Clearly, you've been swillin' all your product so it's not much of a going concern, little factually-challenged fella.

"..If you charge a different price than your ticket that is illegal."

So's falsifyin' intelligence to lie us into an unnecessary, unjustified and unjustifiable War in Iraq, nekkie boy.

Call a cop.

Always a pleasure.
Dismissed.
 
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