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6.03.2008

 

Obama in, but is Clinton out?

Sen. Barack Obama is taking control of the Democratic presidential bus tonight. Here's the question for you: If he were to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate would it be a formidable one-two punch that would heal a scarred Democratic Party or would it run entirely contrary to what attracted many people to Obama in the first place?

Note this from the Associated Press tonight:

Hillary Rodham Clinton told colleagues Tuesday she would consider joining Barack Obama as his running mate, and advisers said she was withholding a formal departure from the race partly to use her remaining leverage to press for a spot on the ticket.

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
who could trust either one after this "hillarious" campaign season? Neither one of these people come even close to representing my values and neither one is trustworthy.
 
Obama will not select Hillary as his running mate. To do so would mean that he would have to drag Bill's baggage around all summer and fall. Without Bill, Hillary would probably have been the nominee. She should have dumped him long ago.
 
Anonymous said...

"who could trust either one after this "hillarious" campaign season? Neither one of these people come even close to representing my values and neither one is trustworthy."

Ignorance and bigotry as "values", eh? That's a good one little factually-challenged fella.

Well, Barack's just gonna have to win without the ignorant anonymous trash vote.

Then again, that is McSame's base, so I tend to doubt that he was really countin' on the scum vote, schmuck.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
McCain / Dole '08 !
 
Terri:

Can't find actual election results for Montana and South Dakota in any of major news outlets on line. Possible to provide these numbers?
 
Terri:

Thanks. I found the results through WPTZ's website.
 
Surrender Shrillary!
 
McCain/Clinton in '08.... real change, real bi-partisanship, real experience ...the Dream Team!
 
McCain & Hillary ... Washington insiders offering more of the same ...
 
Obama can talk about change all he wants but will be consumed by the existing power base in Washington.

McCain/Clinton offers a true bi-partisan solution, experience in the issues and the proven ability to navigate the system. After all isn't it all the partisan politics that frustrates us all?

Whether you like it or not, the 'system' exists and it takes experience to work it.

In a year where change is the operative word, I can't imagine a bigger change that could be offered to the country than a bi-partisan ticket with real leaders.
 
First of all, McCain has routinely trashed Hillary Clinton and her policies. The two have nothing in common.

Second, McCain is a delusional war hawk who openly admits that he wants to keep us in Iraq for decades.

McCain wants to stay the course. That just isn't a realistic option.
 
Anyone see McCain's speach last night? It was so bad that even the boys at FOX news were trashing it.

Have a look on YouTube. It's easily one of the worst speaches in the history of Presidential politics.
 
Anonymous said...

"Obama can talk about change all he wants but will be consumed by the existing power base in Washington."

And McCain and Hillary won't? How so, little fella? They're all Senators and McCain's already in the steadily shrinking minority that's about to get even smaller.

Explain.

"McCain/Clinton offers a true bi-partisan solution, experience in the issues and the proven ability to navigate the system. After all isn't it all the partisan politics that frustrates us all?"

McCain votes with Bush 98 percent of the time. Where's the change, schmuck?

"Whether you like it or not, the 'system' exists and it takes experience to work it."

Yeah, and like TM Day, Obama beat Hillary and he's gonna thump McCain.

"In a year where change is the operative word, I can't imagine a bigger change that could be offered to the country than a bi-partisan ticket with real leaders."

Well given the fact that you're utterly psychotic, I'm sure your ignorant anonymous ass will come up with some other delusional dreck soon enough, little factually-challenged fella.

I've got faith in ya.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
OBAMA '08

He's the man!!!!
 
Reasons McCain won't pick Hillary:

1) Republicans hate Hillary.
2) Hillary is pro-choice
3) Bill Clinton
4) Religious right does not trust McCain. He needs a right winger in the #2 spot in order to win their support

There are about a million more ...
 
"...There are about a million more ..."

Well, we'll just add them to the 7 billion reasons McCain shouldn't be President.
 
Hillary is trying to use leverage to get Obama to pay off her campaign debts- typical liberal- they need OPM- it would be a shame if they had to use their own money!
 
NEK ...

"Hillary is trying to use leverage to get Obama to pay off her campaign debts- typical liberal- they need OPM- it would be a shame if they had to use their own money!"

Ya mean like McCain is doing now, nekkie boy? Can your ignorant, ill-informed ass imagine if McCain had to hold fundraisers that Bush spoke at! Christ! They'd have to close the doors to the public and have a media blackout.

Good thing McCain would never go for that, little factually-challenged fella. Again.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
NEK is McCain is using his own money to pay for his campaign???

Here is a hint: Nope.
 
McCain is not asking his opponent to pay his way!
How would you feel if you contributed to Obama's campaign and found out he is giving it to Hillary?
 
Obama is the Pied Piper of the left and he has done a great job saying all the right things and mesmerizing his followers. I know all he says he can do and it would be great if he could accomplish a fraction of what he claims;however,can anyone tell me what he has accomplished so far in his political career?
 
"JWCoop10 said...
"...There are about a million more ..."

Well, we'll just add them to the 7 billion reasons McCain shouldn't be President."

Please list and substantiate the 7 billion reasons Coopy. Show us the proof of your statement.
 
John "Keating Five" McCain ... whose campaign is run by lobbyists.

Just what American needs.
 
Yeah. Let the Keating scandal come back to bite McCain on his wrinkled old ass.
 
You are right about McCain and the Keating five- the other four Senators were Democrats.
Are all lobbyists crooks? Ask Leahy- he has close relatives who are Wash lobbyists.
 
I won't vote for the four Dems either.

McCain is scum.
 
Hilary is so trust worthy ... Did you see her ducking from the sounds of explosions when she got off the plane? Maybe that brought her to tears ... She is certainly not the right man for the job ...
 
Is your next post going to say that we shouldn't vote for Ron Paul, Chris Dodd, Mitt Romney and John Edwards??
 
One thing is certain: I'm NOT voting for Jack Kemp.
 
NEK...
"Obama is the Pied Piper of the left and he has done a great job saying all the right things and mesmerizing his followers. I know all he says he can do and it would be great if he could accomplish a fraction of what he claims; however,can anyone tell me what he has accomplished so far in his political career?"

Sure thing, nekkie boy.

According to the Congressional Record (www.thomas.gov), in a nut shell I found:

"Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Details below the fold.

Helenann's diary :: ::
Below I summarize Senator Obama's legislative record in the US Senate.

First I list the bills he sponsored that have become law.

Next I summarize the bills that he has sponsored or cosponsored since he became a US Senator in 2005.

I have only included major pieces of legislation and have not summarized continuing resolutions or naming post offices, for example.

His record suggests several priorities and the bills he supports address many of our most pressing problems.

Most of his legislative effort has been in the area of Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills), health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills), consumer protection/labor (14 bills), the needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills), Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills), Foreign Policy (10 bills) Voting and Elections (9 bills), Education (7 bills), Hurricane Katrina Relief (6), the Environment (5 bills), Homeland Security (4 bills), and discrimination (4 bills).

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy:
Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Three addressed public health:
Improve mine safety (2803)
Increased breast cancer funding (597)
Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).

Two addressed openness and accountability in government:
Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488)
Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590)

Two addressed national security
Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467)
Amend the Patriot Act (2167)

One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces
Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).

Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:

25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change
Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115)
Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133)
Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768)
Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151)
Reduce green house gas emissions (1324)
Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389)
Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202)
Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269)
Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794)
Alternative diesel standards (3554)
Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623)
Renewable diesel standards (1920)
Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555)
Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025)
Alternative energy refueling system (2614)
Climate change education (1389)
Low income energy assistance (2405)
Oil savings targets (339)
Fuel economy reform (3694)
Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617)
Nuclear release notice (2348)
Passenger rail investment (294)
Energy relief for low income families (2405)

21 addressed Health Care
Drug re-importation (334)
Health information technology (1262, 1418)
Discount drug prices (2347)
Health care associated infections (2278)
Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824)
Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784)
Emergency medical care and response (1873)
Stem cell research (5)
Medical Malpractice insurance (1525)
Health centers renewal (901, 3771)
Children’s health insurance (401)
Home health care (2061)
Medicare independent living (2103)
Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823)
Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569)
Gynological cancers (1172)
Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976)
Paralysis research and care (1183)

20 addressed Public Health:
Violence against women (1197)
Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880)
Viral influenza control (969)
End homelessness (1518)
Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790)
Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625)
Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024)
Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066)
Health impact assessments (1067, 2506)
Healthy communities (1068)
Combat methamphetamines (2071)
Paid sick leave (910)
Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818)
Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132)
Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132)

14 address Consumer Protection/Labor
Stop unfair labor practices (842)
Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829)
Internet freedom (2917)
Credit card safety (2411)
Media ownership (2332)
Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484)
Working family child assistance (218)
Habeus Corpus Restoration (185)
Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092)
FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201)
Working families flexibility (2419).

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:
Improve Benefits (117)
Suicide prevention (479)
Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
Homes for veterans (1084)
GI Bill enhancement (43)
Military job protection
Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
Military children in public schools (2151)
Military eye injury research and care (1999)
Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability
Lobbying and ethics reform (230)
Stop fraud (2280)
Legislative transparency and accountability (525)
Open government (2180, 2488)
Restoring fiscal discipline (10)
Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261)
Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179)
Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590)
Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal
contract (674)
Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts
(2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)

10 addressed Foreign Policy:
Iraq war de-escalation (313)
US policy for Iraq (433),
Divestiture from Iran (1430)
Sudan divestment authorization (831)
Millennium Development Goals (2433)
Multilateral debt relief (1320)
Development bank reform (1129)
Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).

9 address Voting/Elections
Prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections (453)
Voter access to polls and services in Federal elections (737)
Voter intimidation and deceptive practices (1975)
Senate campaign disclosure parity (185)
Require reporting for bundled campaign contributions (2030)
Election jamming prevention (4102)
Campaign disclosure parity (223)
Presidential funding (2412)
Integrity of electronic voting systems (1487)

11 addressed Education
Increase access of low income African Americans to higher education (1513)
Establish teaching residency programs (1574)
Increase early intervention services (2111)
Middle school curriculum improvements (2227)
Public database of scholarships, fellowships and financial aid (2428)
Summer learning programs (116)
TANF financial education promotion (924)
Higher education (1642)
Build capacity at community colleges (379)
Campus law enforcement in emergencies (1228)
Support for teachers (2060).

6 addressed Hurrican Katrina
Hurricane Katrina recovery (2319)
Emergency relief (1637)
Bankruptcy relief and community protection (1647)
Working family tax relief (2257)
Fair wages for recovery workers (1749)
Gulf coast infrastructure redevelopment (1836)

5 addressed the Environment
Drinking water security (218, 1426)
Water resources development (728)
Waste water treatment (1995)
Combat illegal logging (1930)
Spent nuclear fuel tracking and Acountability (1194)
Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.726.IS ]

4 addressed Discrimination
Claims for civil class action based on discrimination (1989)
Domestic partnership benefits (2521)
Unresolved civil rights crimes (535)
Equality or two parent families (2286)

4 addressed Homeland Security
Judicial review of FISA orders (2369)
National emergency family locator (1630)
Amend US Patriot Act (2167)
Chemical security and safety (2486)"

You really ought to stop askin' stupid questions you don't know the answer to, nekkie boy.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
NEK said...

"You are right about McCain and the Keating five- the other four Senators were Democrats.
Are all lobbyists crooks? Ask Leahy- he has close relatives who are Wash lobbyists."

Really? Have any of 'em lobbied the US Government on behalf of the Military Thugs ruling Myanmar, Zaire, Angola and the Tobacco Institute or have ties to Jack Abramoff, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
I am impressed with your research except most did not come from the Congress.org site, it came from posts in the Daily Kos. The key word to all this legislation is CO-SPONSORED. Any legislator can co-sponsor a bill and most do so they can be reciprocated.
What the Daily Kos doesn't tell you is Obama's voting record is the most liberal in the Senate- which I am sure doesn't bother you but it does to a lot of us.
 
NEK...

"I am impressed with your research except most did not come from the Congress.org site, it came from posts in the Daily Kos. The key word to all this legislation is CO-SPONSORED."

Gee, ya mean like, oh, say, McCain-Feingold or McCain-Lieberman, for example, nekkie boy?

Nice try, schmuck.

Feel free to list all the single-sponsor legislation to come out of Congress in the past 20 years, little fella. Now list all the co-sponsored Legislation during that time frame. Which is the greater number?

That's what I thought.

Is it your clueless-cretin contention that the info posted by the DK is not from the Congress.org site or inaccurate in some way, little factually-challenged fella?

If so, feel free to make your case.

"Any legislator can co-sponsor a bill and most do so they can be reciprocated.
What the Daily Kos doesn't tell you is Obama's voting record is the most liberal in the Senate- which I am sure doesn't bother you but it does to a lot of us."

The facts usually do bother you and your coalition of the clueless compatriots, little fella. Ya best get used to it, sport, the wing-nut-nonsense forecast calls for pain.

Really? The most liberal, eh? According to whom, Fixed News?

You're gonna have to do better than your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest ignorant-trash word on the matter, nekkie boy, and that's a hurdle your ignorant ass has yet to clear.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
McCain could be great. Obama could be great. Potential is there but is the courage to do what is needed there?
 
Obama is "most liberal" according to the ultra partisan rag -- the National Journal.

They ranked him as more liberal because he votes for things like ethics reform for congress.

They also didn't include all 100 senators in their evaluation. (they didn't rank McCain.)
 
Dear God ... I know you libs don't like hearing that either ... It amazes me what false representation of facts occur on a blog site.

Coop you are dismissed and your misinformed arguments are indeed contempt before realization. People like you that spout allegations as if they are fact are very dangerous. You need to relax and be open minded or else have something to truly love ... that alone would give you responsibility and change your moral compass. Dismissed.
 
Anonymous...

"McCain could be great. Obama could be great. Potential is there but is the courage to do what is needed there?"

Well, don't you have the anonymous courage of your nameless-nitwit convictions, little grow a pair fella.

Gee, talk about goin' out on a limb, there. Way to take a stand, little fella!

Either one could be great if they have the COURAGE to do some nebulous, unspecified "needed" thing in the eyes of some spineless, obsequious schmuck who feels the need to remain nameless.

Boy, your back must be killin' ya from carryin' those brass ones around all the time and what does your nameless-nitwit ass do to keep 'em shiny and deal with that troublesome tarnish thing, little stoneless-nameless-nitwit fella?

Then again, ya can always blame it one of the other anonymous posters, so you're covered and your sorry, spineless butt can't get into too much trouble.

Well played. I can see why you feel the need to remain nameless.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
Anonymous said...

"Dear God ... I know you libs don't like hearing that either ... It amazes me what false representation of facts occur on a blog site."

Really? Such as? Do tell, little nameless-nitwit fella.

That's what I thought.

"Coop you are dismissed and your misinformed arguments are indeed contempt before realization."

Realization, eh? Realization of what, little fella? Just what allegedly "misinformed arguments" would those be, little factually-challenged fella? Enlighten me, nameless-nitwit.

That's what I thought.

"People like you that spout allegations as if they are fact are very dangerous."

People "like" me, eh? And what kind of people would that be, little got-bupkis fella?

Elaborate.

"You need to relax and be open minded or else have something to truly love ... that alone would give you responsibility and change your moral compass. Dismissed."

Open to what, little fella? Brain-dead bupkis with no basis in fact?

Thanks, I'll pass. Empty calories don't do it for me, little fella. Either does your empty-headed horsebrit.

Gee, moral compass lessons from ignorant trash with bupkis. Talk about your after school specials.

Your ignorant, anonymous ass hasn't cited one fact in your entire post, schmuck. All you've done is make bogus allegations against me you can't substantiate.

Of course, that makes you just like every other nameless nitwit spewin' specious anonymous slop hangin' their horsebrit hat here.

Them's the facts, little fella.

Dismissed.
 
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Coop lists a number of bills that he gives Obama credit for introducing since he has been in the Senate but Coop does his research on Daily Kos.
Check the bills Obama has introduced in legitimate sources and you will see he has 1 enacted bill to his credit and that has to do with the Republic of the Congo.
He was only in the Senate for 2 years before he started campaigning and since Jan 2007 he has missed 80% of the votes. Prior to that he did add his name to 152 bills and 14 became law, Most bill writers get as many names as possible as co-sponsors. He introduced 4 others on his own that didn't get anywhere.
As for liberal voting records, several sites, both left and right, list liberal to conservative records, and Obama is ranked at the top in some and behind Sanders, Kennedy, Schuler and Boxer on others. As for the NFIB (which is not big business), Obama scored ZERO on their appropriate bills. IE, Obama does not like businesses, he likes BIG Government.
 
"Jan 2007 he has missed 80% of the votes"

Another Republican lie.
 
You better check again- this is a congressional record- Since Obama started campaigning in January 2007, he has missed 80% of all Senate votes.
 
You better check again. Use an actual source. Not the National Journal or Rush Lamebaugh.
 
NEK...

"Coop lists a number of bills that he gives Obama credit for introducing since he has been in the Senate but Coop does his research on Daily Kos..."

As opposed to your ignorant ass who doesn't list any sources at all.

Nice try, nekkie boy. No sale.

Actually, I did my research through Google. They linked to Kos. Kos linked to the Congressional Record.

You, on the other hand, linked to your usual nothing.

Once again, if you have evidence to the contrary, submit it. I'd be happy to have a look at it.

As for co-sponsored legislation, as I said previously, feel free to list all the single-sponsor legislation that's been enacted into law in the past 20 years. List all the co-sponsored legislation that's been enacted into law in the past 20 years. Which is the greater number?

That's what I thought.

You're ignorant trash with bupkis, nekkie boy. I never bet against it.

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
"Sen. John McCain (R-Campaign Trail) missed another vote today on a resolution related to the Iraq war, skipping a procedural move on a war funding measure in favor of hitting the campaign trail in New York.

"In fact, McCain's missed vote today marked his fifth straight week without casting a vote on the Senate floor, with this morning's vote marking the 42nd straight roll call that he has missed.

"McCain's campaign said, "Regrettably, it is impossible for a presidential candidate to avoid missing votes."
 
McCain has missed more votes than any other senator in the 110th congress.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/vote-missers/
 
Someone refill jw's perscription.
 
I always wondered who the most arrogant person in VT was ... I know now. I can't believe I have been cooped up this long ... You really need a dose of reality or a real job. Anyone can play cut and paste and make an argument. You ought to find a real job that actually utilizes free thought.

Dismissed and rendered useless.
 
Anonymous...

"Someone refill jw's perscription."

Someone better teach your ignorant anonymous ass how to spell prescription, little factually-challenged fella.

You really are the ignorant-trash lunatic-fringe gift that keeps on givin', little factually-challenged fella.

Don't go changin'

Dismissed.
 
Love the cut and pastes, coopy... keep it up.
 
Anonymous said...

"Love the cut and pastes, coopy... keep it up."

Just followin' your ignorant-trash lead, little fella.

After all, your delusional-dreck dealin' ditto-head ass has been cuttin' and pastin' the same factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, psychotic-slop since long before I got here, why the hell should I get carpal tunnel syndrome individually answerin' your dimwitted gop-slop nonsense, little fella.

Clearly, your ignorant, anonymous, coalition of the clueless ass has been typin' with one hand since ya got here.

Then again, that's considerably more thought than you and your coalition of the clueless brothers in bupkis have put into anything you've dredged up.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
cut and paste, cut and paste, yawn. You are so boring.
 
Think how boring the constant "yawn"
comment is to the rest of us.
 
as opposed to Coopy's witty posts?
 
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