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11.10.2008

 

The sorta final results

The final counts have been posted on the state elections Web site, with some races to be confirmed still. If you're looking for an excuse to avoid doing the dishes, you can check out the results HERE.

Independent Anthony Pollina finished second in the governor's race over Democrat Gaye Symington by 257 votes. Of course, both of them are well behind Republican Jim Douglas, by like 100,000 votes.

The results offers some interesting fodder. To wit:

- Pollina discounts the fact that his 21 percent of the vote showing is less than the 25 percent he received in 2002 in the lt. gov. race. You'll recall, too, that during the campaign he made note of that 25 percent and said that if those 25 percent bring a friend, he'll win. Well, the 56,564 people who voted for him in 2002 don't seem to have many friends. He had 69,791 votes this time.

- Symington pointed out that every Republican governor in the country won re-election last week, a suggestion that incumbency prevailed over the Obama wave in all governor's races, not just here. Except that there were only a few Republican governors up for election this year - Vermont, Utah, North Dakota and Indiana - and those other states are hardly Obama-friendly in the way Vermont is. Vermont, I would venture to guess without even checking, is the only state where the Democrat came in third in the governor's race.

- Progs took it on the chin in the congressional race. Thomas Hermann came in fourth, after winner Peter Welch and independents Mike Bethel and Jerry Trudell.

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
"- Progs took it on the chin in the congressional race. Thomas Hermann came in fourth, after winner Peter Welch and independents Mike Bethel and Jerry Trudell."

Well, that certainly explains why Pollina ran as an Independent.

Gee, 257 votes, eh? That's like edging out the third place winner in the race for the batting title by a point with 75 fewer at bats, Terri.

If - Pollina doesn't gum up the works and divide the anti-doogie vote, the Dems run a serious candidate like Spaulding or Markowitz capable of running a professional, well-funded campaign, you guys don't sit on doogie mileage story and stop serving as his unpaid PR flacks by telling us what a popular fiscal conservative he is when the facts say otherwise, this would have been a real race.

It's not for nothin' that the current composition of the legislature is the current composition of the legislature.

If you sclm folks are going to continue to be such devoted disciples of the judy miller steno school of journalism and just keep repeating gop talking points about what a successful 11/4/08 they had because they managed to hang on to the governorship in Utah and Indiana where the pastures don't come any redder and spin this as such a big win and mega-mandate for the jimi douglas experience because he managed to keep it from going to the legislature, ya may as well just pull up stakes, go to work for the RNC or the NRA, get it over with and stop kidding yourselves.

If 55 percent for doogie against a weak Dem opponent who ran one of the poorest first campaigns for statewide office in the history of the planet coupled with Pollina dividing the anti-doogie vote is such a mandate, then the fact that the Dems managed to keep their 23-7Senate margin and increase their majority in the House from 93-95 ain't chopped liver, either.

Especially, when you toss in the fact that Welch won the gop primary and ran essentially unopposed and all the statewide offices outside of gov and lite gov are in the hands of the Dems as Obama beat McCain 2-1, then, all things considered, the Dems didn't have such a bad 11/4/08, either, so what's with the one-way traffic?

Just why are you guys all but awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to an incumbent governor who outspent both of the weak candidates opposing him by a wide margin just for hanging on to his job?
 
I see the SOS needs to correct the State Senate Race in Franklin County. Randy Brock got the most votes in that race.
 
Which makes him one of seven gop members of the 30-member Vermont Senate, little fella.

They reported that last week, little fella.
 
Wow - now that is exciting - yawn.
 
Coopy said....Whine, whine, whine..."If 55 percent for doogie against a weak Dem opponent..."

A couple thoughts:
1. C'mon Coop! She was the Speaker of the House for cripes sake. I would hardly (and you certainly did not) think she was a weak candidate. You running would have been a weak candidate. All the Dem leadership pushed her to run and you advocated her as the best choice right up to the election. In hindsight we were right and you were wrong. Shumlin threw her under the bus. You are a pitiful revisionist.

2. My condolences to Spaulding and Markowitz. You are nice people. It is unclear what you have done to deserve Coop's unsolicited endorsement. You should publicly rebuke him if you have any future political aspirations.
 
Spaulding and Markowitz serious contenders - you must be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hard to believe jw would support Spaulding - who probably is more of a common sense dim than most of the far out loons constituting the vast majority of the Vermont dim party.
 
The VT Democratic HQ is abuzz this morning. Coop has made his 2010 endorsements, Spaudling and Markowitz.

Good grief. With one quick post the entire landscape of Vermont politics is redefined.

How could this have happened without his having checked in with the boys at the Clubhouse?

JW has gone rogue. Only Howard Dean can reel him back in at this point.

Howie, do you have any free time on your hands now that you have booted from the DNC?
 
Hey Coopy. Jim Douglas just called to let you know he is the Governor of all the people of the State and he cares about you too even though you don't seem to be a supporter of him. With a little luck his jobs programs will open up opportunites even for you.
 
All ignorant anonymous slime/all the time.

Gee, I'm shocked.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...


A couple thoughts:

If your ignorant anonymous ass wants to spend your first couple of thoughts here, little fella, knock yourself out.

"1. C'mon Coop! She was the Speaker of the House for cripes sake. I would hardly (and you certainly did not) think she was a weak candidate."

I didn't, eh? In other words, little factually-challenged fella, you're ignorant anonymous ass is claimin' that there's no evidence of me claiming she was a lousy candidate who was running a lousy campaign in the pre-11/4/08 Freeps archives, little fella?

Suit yourself, schmuck. Name your stakes, little fella. Knock yourself out.

I'll not only call your ignorant anonymous ass's bluff and take a piece of that action, I'll see ya, raise ya and go all in.

The only dumber bet your ignorant anonymous ass could make is to claim you've got a couple of thoughts to spare, but, suit yourself. You're on a roll, schmuck.

Knock yourself, little nameless-nitwit fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
This comment has been removed by the author.
 
Mothers print out Coop's posts and show them to your children.

If even even one of them learns from his example and stays off the hard stuff his worthless life will not have been wasted in vain.

Say no to booze and drugs kids, or you could end up like Coopy,
 
JW,

You are hurting my feelings pretending that you now think I was a weak candidate. You told me you liked me. You really, really liked me before election day. It was your support that convinced me into making the run to be the Big Cahoona. Now you deny me. Next thing I know, I will be off your Christmas card list.

Please, JW, please, say it isn't so.


Gaye
 
JW does Mo know that the heavy breathing, moaning and writhing in the bed next to her at 3 AM is you fantasizing about Gaye????????

You were mesmerized about her until she crashed and burned. Maybe you were expecting a lofty position in a Simpleton administration

does the position of court jester still exist??
 
Anonymous said...

"..does the position of court jester still exist??"

Ask you're boy, doogie, little fella. The anonymous thing might hurt ya, but helluva-job hofie clearly demonstrates his fondness for ignorant trash.

Ya just may have found your callin', little fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...
Mothers print out Coop's posts and show them to your children.

Mamas don't let yer babies grow up to be bupkis.

Damn, if you jokes just write yourselves, little fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
"Mamas don't let yer babies grow up to be bupkis."


He he he he.... you are so funny. How do you ever come up with it all?

Seek Help.
 
You ignorant anonymous trash jokes just write yourselves.

Feel free to call for reinforcements, schmuck.

Maybe they can make me crack a sweat, little nameless-nitwit fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
You guys have got to be kidding about Markowitz and Spaulding please no more of the same!
 
"Feel free to call for reinforcements, schmuck"

You have quite an opinion of yourself. While you find comfort in having a backstop of pre-approved talking points from the boys down at the He-man Woman Haters Club that you can cut and paste at will, the other posters here seem capable of free and critical thought.

No reinforcements are needed to tell me what to think.

This has been a fairly wordy post so I hope it didn't interfere with your relationship with the bottle of Mogen David you hide under your bed hoping your Mom won't find it.
 
Anonymous

"Feel free to call for reinforcements, schmuck"

"You have quite an opinion of yourself..."

Nah, it's more a case of me having an exceedingly low opinion of ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis who frequently can't spell what they can't substantiate, little fella.

If you need to take a breath and call for assistance at this point, little fella, feel free to use one of your lifelines.

"While you find comfort in having a backstop of pre-approved talking points from the boys down at the He-man Woman Haters Club that you can cut and paste at will, the other posters here seem capable of free and critical thought."

Established fact tends to be preapproved, little fella. Hence the term: established fact.

You're welcome.

Actually, you're merely a collection of clueless cretins who can't tell up from down, your ass from your elbow or what day it whose next thoughts will be your first, little fella.

Ignorant bigotry from nameless nitwits typing with one hand from the anonymous sanctuary of their mama's basement is not critical thinking or thinking of any sort, little delusional dreck-dealin' fella, it's just ignorant bigotry from nameless-nitwits typing with one hand from the anonymous sanctuary of their mama's basement, little delusional dreck-dealin' fella.

Fortunately for the nameless-nitwit, lunatic-fringe likes of you, it doesn't involve any knowledge or thought at all.

Besides, your mama needs help getting stuff off the middle shelf in the cupboard from time to time and she's afraid she'll fall off the step stool and break her hip again if she tries to get it herself.

Now take that load out of the dryer, take the clothes outta the washer, throw 'em in the dryer, start another load of washing and sort, fold and put your clothes away.

Am I goin' too fast for ya. Do ya need me to repeat that again, little fella.

"No reinforcements are needed to tell me what to think."

No, not in your current state, little fella. They don't enter the picture until later.

First, you're gonna need a functional brain and a post 5th Grade Education. Having the reinforcements repeat, explain, repeat and explain again are steps 3-6, schmuck.

"This has been a fairly wordy post.."

Yeah, you're even more tedious than usual when ya lamely attempt to elevate your brain-dead bigotry into lofty notions of thought or some other hallucinatory horsebrit.

Then again, it's not like your ignorant anonymous ass has got anything to say, so brevity probably would suppress the stench a bit.

Always a pleasure.
 
How's this for brevity moron?

Lay off the Mogen David.
Grow up.
Act like an adult.

Maybe then someone will give you the respect you so obviously crave you pitiful little man.
 
Tell ya what, little fella. If I'm ever in the market for advice from the dimwitted denizens of the ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis community, I'll bear that in mind.

Always a pleasure.
 
Do not respond to coop - it only fuels the fire.
 
Anonymous said...

"Do not respond to coop - it only fuels the fire."

Gee, if only your ignorant anonymous ass had thought to say that a year ago, little fraudulent fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
"JW does Mo know that the heavy breathing, moaning and writhing in the bed next to her at 3 AM is you fantasizing about Gaye????????"

Naw, Coopy's floggin' on poor limp little nubby while he dreams of himself. He thinks that he is the only one worthy.

Damn it all he's right about that!

If he can manage to be right about one more thing today he'll be in a tie with the broken clock in the garbage bin.

How's that for your next goal freak show? JWCoop equal to a broken rusty alarm clock.

Hang on to that dream loser. A little luck and you might just get there.
 
Gee, little fella. Now your ignorant anonymous ass is reduced to pretendin' the left side of your ass respondin' to the right are two separate and distinct douche bags instead of the same nameless, sackless slimeball.

Mo and the kids send their regards. Just don't call after nine, swine.

Always a pleasure.
 
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