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4.28.2008

 

Jericho seeks candidate

Over in Jericho tonight, Democrats were meeting to talk about possible legislative candidates.

This is significant because it means somebody thinks one of the Democratic incumbent legislators from the two-person Jericho-Underhill-Bolton district must be at least considering not seeking re-election. And it's not Bill Frank.

Instead, it's Frank's district-mate, Gaye Symington. Symington, the speaker of the House, is "seriously considering" running for governor. Some people say that even if she doesn't run for governor she may not seek re-election to the Legislature.

Town Democratic Chairwoman Deb Fitzgerald said the meeting was intended to share political ideas of all kinds, but that the notion of who might be interested in serving in the Legislature would likely come up.

Frank said it was just in case there was an opening - that Symington hadn't indicated, not even to her homies (he didn't really use that word, but I am) what she planned to do.

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
Oh please Gaye, tell us something. We're all on pins and needles awaiting your announcement. Good time to start thinking about who might be an effective Speaker in the next term.
 
77 percent of respondents labeled the Annie Leibovitz photos "inappropriate for a 15-year-old" compared with 23 percent who found them "appropriate."

Perhaps Douglas is in the wrong line of work.
 
When will people stop attacking Joe Francis? The man only wants to share drunk boobies with the world. I mean, when did it become okay to attack someone for doing the Lord's work?
 
Well, she wouldn't be my first choice as Gov, but unlike this schmuck, at least Symington is competent and gives a damn about the State of Vermont.
 
And your proof of that scoopy?

Take a minute. Give us some bupkis.

That's what I thought, you factually devoid, kool-aid drinking little fella. You haven't had a clue since you started slinging mud here and, shocker!, you still don't.

You're dumb, you're scum and you're gonna have a busy day giving away free cones. Of course, you know a lot of people who put their hands out for free dairy products, usually cheese, but ice cream will work, too.

Dismal.
 
Joe Francis should be attacked. The guy is trash. When Girls Gone Wild comes to UVM to exploit out college girls, we should put old Joe in prison -- if we have any prisons left by the time he gets here.
 
Joe wouldn't go to UVM. He'd go to St. Mikes. He's all about the Catholic girls.
 
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Why bring Catholic girls into any of this? This isn't about religion, it's about Joe Francis. He's hired Catholics, Jews, Protestants ... but why should it matter? It doesn't matter to Joe. It shouldn't matter to you.
 
Iggy slop, said:

"And your proof of that scoopy?"

Proof of what, little factually-challenged fella?

That you're ignorant trash with bupkis?

After your latest failure to substantiate your ludicrous claim that VPIRG wrote the Campaign Finance Bill that doogie the dimmer just vetoed, we hold those truths to be self-evident, schmuck.

Then again, that ship sailed long before I got here, little factually-challenged fella.

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
It's funny when JW takes his posts down.

I wonder why he does that.

Perhaps he has moments of lucidity when he realizes that his posts are bunk.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"It's funny when JW takes his posts down.

I wonder why he does that.

Perhaps he has moments of lucidity when he realizes that his posts are bunk."

Nah, I occasionally make typos and correct them.

Again, the fact that you're ignorant trash with bupkis is self-evident, schmuck.

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
If there are moments of lucidity, they are short lived, eh?
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"If there are moments of lucidity, they are short lived, eh?"

In other words, you've still got no evidence to substantiate your latest load of delusional dreck claiming that VPIRG wrote the CFR Bill doogie the dimmer just vetoed.

Again, we hold such truths to be self-evident, schmuck.

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
Folks, JW has run out of money for his meds again. Please, call the group-home and make a small donation so that they can go out and refill his perscription.

Thanks.
 
Joe Francis is a decent, honest businessman -- like Skip Vallee or Walt Freed.

He fills a market niche. He's successfull guy. There is no crime in that.
 
So, just because there's a market niche for porn, means that it's okay to get a 17 yo girl drunk, take her picture, and sell it on the internet??? No. That's not right. Give kids time to grow up before exploiting them like that. Joe Francis belongs in jail with the other criminals.
 
How did Joe enter this discussion, is he running for the Speaker's job?
 
She was in one of his flix!
 
Anonymous said...
"Joe Francis is a decent, honest businessman -- like Skip Vallee or Walt Freed.

He fills a market niche. He's successfull guy. There is no crime in that."

So, he's a "successfull" guy, eh?

Hopefully, he's more successful than your pathetic attempts to spell successful, little Lord I must be livin' right to have nameless-nitwit adversaries this fookin' stupid fella.

Ya know, you can start tryin' any time now, schmuck. If you and the rest of your coalition of the clueless compatriots are gonna keep diggin' your own graves, slittin' your own throats, fallin' in and pullin' the dirt in behind your ignorant, ill-informed, anonymous asses, I'm gonna go watch Man U beat Barca.

As for fillin' niches, nitwit, so did Al Capone, John Gotti and Larry Flynt, little fella.

In fact, Falwell and Keating of Keating 5 fame tried to put Flynt outta business. They didn't fare any better that the billo/murdo nuisance suit against Al Franken, little fella. Surely, even the lunatic-fringe likes of your ignorant, anonymous ass doesn't need me to remind ya how that turned out, do ya?

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
Actually, Gotti was a mobster.

Larry Flint is a publisher.

There is no reason to think that Larry Flint has done anything illegal ... other than the odd line of blow.

The fact is that Joe Francis is a stand up guy. You might not like what he's selling -- in which case, I'd advise you not to buy it and not to watch it.
 
Man. This is one weird string of back and forth today.

I predict Symington will enter the race and, combined with Pollina, will keep Douglas under 50 percent. But I think Symington will do something stupid like promise to hand the election to Douglas if he wins the popular vote. Given what Douglas has been saying lately about not suporting the popular vote, I hope she won't. Let the legislature decide, but that's a scary prospect too. They are kind of wimpy when it comes to exhibiting leadership.
 
The Factor reported that children are not the only victims. "At the University of Vermont they're having a very big problem with predators going after women students. There's a permissive atmosphere in the southern part of Vermont."
 
Pollina for Governor - bring on
Gaye Symington.

Who is running for the other statewide offices?
 
"The Factor" and Fhucks News has taken a lot of ad money from the Girls Gone Wild video series.

It's ironic that the Factor would worry about predators when they are taking money from GGW.
 
Yes, Larry Flynt is a niche-filling publisher. Keating, on the other hand, like Scooter Libby, is a convicted criminal and lifelong gop who, like Falwell, tried to put him away or out of business in any number of criminal and civil cases.

Like you, they failed to make their case. Like your ignorant, anonymous ass, they had bupkis.

As for this Francis, schmuck. I didn't introduce him as a topic. It was your anonymous ass that raised his name. If it wasn't you, it was the other nameless nitwit with bupkis.

Either way, I'm sure he's pleased to hear your ignorant, anonymous ass is in his corner.

So, where exactly in Vermont is Laguna Beach located, little factually-challenged fella. Is it a suburb of Island Pond?

That's what I thought.

Always an amusing pleasure.

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Anonymous said...
"The Factor" and Fhucks News has taken a lot of ad money from the Girls Gone Wild video series.

"It's ironic that the Factor would worry about predators when they are taking money from GGW."

The Factor's only worry since the day it went on the air has been ratings.

Given the fact that they've always been wholly without merit factually and legally like everything and everyone else on fixed news, their concerns are well-placed.
 
"The Factor's only worry since the day it went on the air has been ratings."

Don't know much about business, do you?

They care about revenue, fool. Figure it out.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"The Factor's only worry since the day it went on the air has been ratings."

"Don't know much about business, do you?

They care about revenue, fool. Figure it out."

Really? So, is it your contention that ratings carry no weight when fixed news sets its ad rates in general and their rates for specific programs like "the factor" in particular, little don't know nothin' 'bout nothin' fella?

Is your ignorant, anonymous ass gonna tell me wins and losses have nothing to do with revenues for the Red Sox now, too, deducebag?

That certainly solves the mystery as to why fixed business channel is tankin' and why your ignorant, ill-informed anonymous ass is a gop, goober.

In that business, ratings are the single largest factor in determining revenue, little fella.

Look it up.

Thanks for that ignorant trash with bupkis perspective, little factually-challenged fella.

Clearly, there's just no end to the range of topics your ignorant, anonymous ass knows absolutely nothing about, little fella.

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":
"Get a clue, Fool. Nobody was talking about Scooter Libby. Your posts are idiotic."

Gee, thanks for the delusional-dreck dealer perspective, little fella.

Get yourself a case and a clue, work yourself into some semblance of a worthy adversary and I'll give your ignorant, anonymous ass the time of day.

Always an amusing pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
JW seems to have an opinion, he just doesn't understand what the discussion is about.
 
Flint calls himself a 'publisher' but call a spade a spade. He's a pornographer. He exploits young women for money. And Joe Francis is the heir to a deranged society that trades on degenerative behavior.

Only when society's last virtue is taken away will we realize what a huge mistake we've made.
 
You said that Fox News only cares about ratings.

But that's not true. They care about revenue. So you were wrong.
 
Scoopy, I'm proud of you, little off-the-meds feller. You done real good on these posts today, considering it was free cone day and all. My, you've been a busy little beaver.

Now if our lawmakers could only multi-task like you! They could tax us to death AND manage their trust funds.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"You said that Fox News only cares about ratings."

No, I said: "The Factor's only worry since the day it went on the air has been ratings."

Just where in that statement did I say that Faux only cares about ratings, little factually-challenged fella?

That's what I thought.

Ratings determine revenue. The better the ratings, the better the ad revenue. That's how they keep score in that business.

Billo doesn't speak of revenue. He speaks of ratings. Like Shrub, his ain't what they used to be.

Given the fact that they've always been wholly without merit factually and legally like everything and everyone else on fixed news, their concerns are well-placed.

You're forgiven, little factually-challenged fella.

Now go and spin no more.

Dismissed.
 
First Obama reluctantly agreed to appear on FOX; Tomorrow Hillary appears on O'Reilly; although they won't get the softballs thrown at them that they are used to in the "mainstream" media and PBS they realize that more democrats watch FOX than all of the other networks because FOX is head and shoulders ahead of slime like Olbermann, Matthews, Moyers and the rest of the anti-American media. The liberals spend all day cursing FOX then draw the shades and in the darkness of night, WATCH Sean and Bill!!!


Hahahahahahahahaha!
 
JWCOOP10 wrote: "After your latest failure to substantiate your ludicrous claim that VPIRG wrote the Campaign Finance Bill that doogie the dimmer just vetoed, we hold those truths to be self-evident, schmuck."

Well, I'm sure it won't suffice as proof in your eyes, but here's what VPIRG's Executive Director Paul Burns himself wrote this weekend on the blog Green Mountain Daily. I've put the link at the end of the post. He acknowledges his role in crafting the bill on VPIRG's behalf in the first paragraph.

"Some Info on the Campaign Finance Bill (3.67 / 3)

There's plenty of room for reasonable people to disagree about how best to solve the problem of money (and the undue influence it carries) in politics. But we should at least be on the same page in terms of what the bill (S.278) would and would not have done. And since there have been a number of misstatements here about the bill, I offer a few thoughts as one of those who worked (on VPIRG's behalf) with the legislative committees that crafted it.

First, S.278 is nothing like the 1997 law that was struck down by the US Supreme Court in 2006, except that both contain limits on political contributions. The plurality decision authored by Justice Breyer in that case suggested that the Court had a number of concerns with the contribution limits in the '97 law that, taken together, made the limits unconstitutional.

Vermont legislators responded to each one of those concerns in S.278. To suggest that legislators were thumbing their noses at the Court is flat out wrong.

For instance, the amount that individuals, corporations and PACs can give to candidates went from $200 for House races up to $500 (with $250 for the primary and $250 for the general election). For gubernatorial candidates the contribution limits quintupled from $400 to $2,000.

The limits in S.278 are virtually identical to limits upheld by the Court in the Nixon v. Shrink case out of Missouri in 2000. So, there is ample evidence to support the belief they will be upheld if challenged. (Note - This is another area where mydog's facts are off.)

Other concerns brought up by the Court had to do with the restrictions put on political parties under the '97 law. That's why political parties are allowed to conduct party-building activities without having them count as direct contributions under S.278. Many of us may think the Court continues to get it wrong on campaign finance cases, but until the majority shifts, it makes sense to be responsive to the guidance they offer.

So, are independent candidates better off without the bill? Absolutely not. This is where Rep. Pillsbury (someone I've enjoyed working with for years on this issue) got it all wrong. When he criticizes S.278 he's comparing it with his vision of the perfect bill, which is neither on the table nor constitutionally permissible.

The choice that Pillsbury and his colleagues faced was S.278 or the status quo, and he chose the status quo. That means political parties are free to give UNLIMITED cash to their candidates. Compare that with the $2,000 limit for state Senate candidates contained in S.278. Will Pillsbury or independent candidates now be better off running against party candidates who can accept gifts of any amount from their parties? Of course not.

In fact, all state and national data presented to the legislative committees verified the fact that contribution limits help challengers, not incumbents as the governor, the Republican Party, the VT Right to Life Committee (and some writers here) believe.

VPIRG shares Pillsbury's desire to have public financing of legislative races in Vermont. We will continue to fight for that and for reasonable contribution limits (as the two complement each other) in the months ahead. But our job was just made more difficult by Pillsbury's misguided decision to side with Douglas and the R's on this vote.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

by: Paul Burns @ Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 11:14:03 AM EDT"

http://greenmountaindaily.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=8B56045ED11402F4F195F4C0ED56FD9B?diaryId=2599
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"First Obama reluctantly agreed to appear on FOX; Tomorrow Hillary appears on O'Reilly; although they won't get the softballs thrown at them that they are used to in the "mainstream" media and PBS they realize that more democrats watch FOX than all of the other networks because FOX is head and shoulders ahead of slime like Olbermann, Matthews, Moyers and the rest of the anti-American media. The liberals spend all day cursing FOX then draw the shades and in the darkness of night, WATCH Sean and Bill!!!"

Really? So, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest bigot boy, it's your clueless-cretin contention that faux gets higher ratings than all of the other networks from Democrats.

And I'm sure your utterly-psychotic, ignorant ass has plenty of evidence in support of your latest load of horsebrithume delusional dreck and you'll be pleased as punch to cough it up, too, just as ya always do right, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Thanks, as always, for that ignorant trash with bupkis perspective, bubbles.

After all, if it's bubbles, it's bogus.

Always a chuckle. Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
IndependentVter said...
"JWCOOP10 wrote: "After your latest failure to substantiate your ludicrous claim that VPIRG wrote the Campaign Finance Bill that doogie the dimmer just vetoed, we hold those truths to be self-evident, schmuck.""

"Well, I'm sure it won't suffice as proof in your eyes, but here's what VPIRG's Executive Director Paul Burns himself wrote this weekend on the blog Green Mountain Daily. I've put the link at the end of the post. He acknowledges his role in crafting the bill on VPIRG's behalf in the first paragraph."

Well, since it ain't evidence of what your nameless-nitwit, coalition of the clueless compatriot alleged when he claimed:

"Since this bill was written by VPIRG and "Senator" Paul Burns why don't they disclose just who their donors are?"

to which I responded:

And your evidence that the bill was written by VPIRG.." is.....?

That's what I thought."

you're right. It ain't evidence in support of the allegation to which I responded and it ain't good enough.

Hey, look on the bright side, little fella. At least ya didn't misspell it. You're improving.

Congrats. I'm proud of ya, putz.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
"JW seems to have an opinion,"

Opinions, yes...Insults, yes... Facts,no ....Added Value, no
 
"JW seems to have an opinion,"

"Opinions, yes...Insults, yes... Facts,no ....Added Value, no"

In other words, you don't like me pointing out that you're ignorant trash with bupkis who not only can't produce any evidence to support your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, delusional dreck, but chances are good you'll be unable to spell what you can't substantiate, too.

Gee, that's a shame.

You're dumb, you're scum and ya got bupkis, schmuck. If your ignorant, anonymous ass can't support your delusional dreck, and it can't, your ignorant ass is gonna hear about it.

Get yourself a case and a clue or get used to it.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
JW how are your boy toy Obama and his sporitual mentor doing today

You are their aplogist in chief aren't you
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"JW how are your boy toy Obama and his sporitual mentor doing today"

You'll have to ask them, little can't spell what your ignorant, anonymous ass can't substantiate fella.

"You are their aplogist in chief aren't you"

And your evidence in support of what you can't spell is.....?

Always a chuckle. Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
bubba just wrote something very revealing. "anti-american media."
Very good bub. You see, the media, and I assume you mean the news media, aren't supposed to be pro-american or anti american. They're just supposed to report what happens as objectively as possible. Most still do that, it's just that your buddy W has been so horrific, worse even than Andrew Johnson, it just looks like the mainstream media is ganging up on him. Although they do have a few very good reporters, FNC in general doesn't really try to be objective. They are well paid to be biased. I'm surprised you don't single out Lou Dobbs for praise given his anti-immigrant rants. He doesn't try to be objective either, yet somehow CNN allows him to remain. Bubba, you gotta understand, bias is for blogs, not journalism.
 
FNC has more opposing voices than any other network. Who appeared on O'Reilly last night? Who squares off against Sean Hannity every night? Who is Kirsten Powers? Lannie Davis? Bob Beckel? and on and on. Oh, let's see who appears on Olbermann tonight - why it's Rachel Maddow! Gee, who appears last night - gee, it's Rachel Maddow! How about three nights ago....you get my point. Whine all you want about FNC but it's the only place you'll ever see both sides of an issue.
 
Right as usual, Bubba.
 
"Anonymous said...
Bubba, you gotta understand, bias is for blogs, not journalism."

How true... can you send this thought to NBC News, Bill Moyers, Dan Rather and CNN International?
 
Scroll past anything that say jw
 
Until you control what a rich candidate can contribute to themself you have not reformed anything.
 
Bubba,

If you have to describe a left of conservative voice as an "opposing voice" aren't you confirming the conservative bias of the network?
 
We all know Hannity and O'Reilly lean towards the right, they admit this themselves. As commentators they have this right, but they also will allow opposing voices to be heard at any time. As a matter of fact, they have been trying to get the little pansy Obama on their show, but of course he refuses, having fewer balls than Hillary. Has anyone seen an opposing voice on Moyers or Olbermann? Well, you won't because neither of these left-wing nitwits can even begin to handle a Karl Rove, Ollie North, or any other conservative opinion; they just keep the same old same old lap dogs to coo and giggle when ever they open their mouths!
 
Anonymous said...

"Scroll past anything that say jw"

Yeah, if you're ignorant, anonymous trash without a case or a clue prone to spewing specious gop-slop you can't substantiate, that's probably your least-stupid course of action, little fella.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 
bubba said...

"We all know Hannity and O'Reilly lean towards the right, they admit this themselves."

Yeah, they're not journalists. So stipulated, schmuck.

"As commentators they have this right, but they also will allow opposing voices to be heard at any time. As a matter of fact, they have been trying to get the little pansy Obama on their show, but of course he refuses, having fewer balls than Hillary."

Actually, Obama was just on Fixed-News Sunday with Chris Wallace the other day, little factually-challenged bigot boy.

So much for that delusional-dreck lie, little bigot boy.

"Has anyone seen an opposing voice on Moyers or Olbermann?"

Yeah, as a matter of fact, Clueless Cal Thomas was on Moyers.

Clueless Cal, you'll recall, used to have his own show on Faux. Evidently, it was cancelled.

So much for delusional-dreck lie number one.

As for Olbermann, Pat Buchanan and Shelby Steele have both been on.

So much for that delusional-dreck lie number two.

I'll just toss them on the pile with the rest of your delusional-dreck lies, little fella.

Once again, little bigot boy, if ya can't make your point without lyin' your ignorant ass off, you don't have one.

Invariably, you can't and you don't.

Secondly, if you're gonna continue to lie your ignorant, ill-informed ass off at every turn 'cause you're ignorant trash with bupkis advocating an illegitimate-trash point of view that's not supported by the facts as you invariably are and continue to do, at least try not to make it quite so obvious and so easy to discredit your ignorant, ill-informed, lyin'-slime, bigoted-trash ass, little fella.

It'd be refreshing to actually have to crack a sweat for once.

Always a pleasure, always a piece of cake.

Dismissed.
 
Miss Ninny seems to have her panties bunched up today.
 
JWCoop10 for Vermont Goodwill Ambassador
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"Miss Ninny seems to have her panties bunched up today."

Your ignorant, anonymous asses usually do, little bigot boy.
 
More gibberish. Coop, proof your stuff. Don't just cut and paste mindlessly. Think. It's hard but I know you can do it.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"More gibberish."

In other words, you're still ignorant trash with bupkis and your ignorant, anonymous ass still can't cough up any evidence to support your psychotic slop.

Tell ya what, little delusional-dreck-dealin' deducebag fella, in the interest of time and effort, unless and until you can cut, paste and prove something to the contrary and change that inescapable fact, we'll just continue to operate under that assumption until proven otherwise.

However, if you're gonna continue to spew the same factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/utterly-psychotic slop with no basis in fact or evidence to support it you've been spewin' since your ignorant, ill-informed ass got here, I'm gonna keep rakin' your Anti-American, bigoted-trash ass over the coals because you're scum and I enjoy pullin' your wings off.

Always a pleasure, always a piece of cake.

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You are a true charmer, Coopy.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Jericho seeks candidate":

"You are a true charmer, Coopy."

Gee, thanks, little factually-challenged fella. You're dumb, you're scum and ya got bupkis.

Disappear.
 
Please get jw some medication!
 
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