Just imagine what all that money could have accomplished right here in the US. We could be concentrating on infrastructure and so much else. Instead, we pissed it all away on a war that will have no good outcome and has done more harm than good. Next time a Republican acquaintence is bemoaning the tanking economy, remind him or her that it was their bonehead leaders that led us down the path we have to now try and clean up. What a travesty.
 

Time to go to Iran !!

McCain/Cheney 2008 !!
 

Nice to see Peter placating Colby and his goons. Does he have a plaqn to do something or just stealing a page from Bernie's playbook and grandstanding?

It looks so good in the press.
 

How much is the price of fighting terrorism worth? How much did WWII cost? How about Korea? Did you ever think about how quick this war might have been over if America had had the support of the liberal surrender monkeys? You can be sure that Welch and the rest of his treasonous pals have the full support of the terrorists, because they know it is just a matter of time before they wear us out. In WWII trash like Welch would have been jailed for sedition.
 

Yea! Time to start putting senators and congressmen in jail!!

We don't need 'em !!

We just need the President. If you don't agree with him, you belong in JAIL !!
 

Pick at Bubba all you want but one of the goals to Radical Islam is to rule us infidels. They have control of the mid-East for decades and look how peaceful and openminded that has been (even before the war). They want to eliminate Isreal. They carryout homicide bombings of their own people. They jail and kill gays in their country.


They blew up a PanAm flight full of innocent people. They attacked the USS Cole unprovoked. They blew up our Embassies. They attacked the World Trade Center (twice). Congrats to GW for having the spine to stand up to them. Something, Carter, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid and Obama don't. They are right. The West is soft. Given time and perserverence, they will eventually win here to because you will let them.


"We just need the President. If you don't agree with him, you belong in JAIL !!"

What happens in Iran when you disagree with their leaders? Jail would be a lucky sentence. Ask Daniel Pearl how far their justice is. Cripes.

Captain America
 

"What happens in Iran when you disagree with their leaders?"

Should Iran be the model that we live by? Gimme a break.

Let's fight against the people that attacked us on 9-11. Let's go after Bin Laden.

Let's attack the Taliban.

But let's get the heck out of Iraq.

Bush has made too many big mistakes and made too big of a mess there.

Let's get back to reality.
 

bomb iran bomb bomb iran
 

We are in Afganistan fighting the Taliban and looking for Bin Laden. Do you want GW to escalate that again?

Al Qaeda has said the central war against the West is Iraq. I think its a stand off. If they stopped we would have no choice but to stop. Clearly they have no interest in it. Are you proposing we retreat and accept a

Unfortunately its a global war and has been so since the Russians were in Afghanistan. Remember how that turned out?
 

Funny -- we were able to win WWII without legalizing torture, without secret detention camps, without warrantless wiretapping, without 40,000 Blackwater mercenaries ... and we did it in less time and with less money.
 

..that you know of.
 

What a total moron 3:40 is! Did you not hear of the internment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII? You must be totally ignorant if you don't think there was mass wiretapping of the German-American Bund in America not to mention any other suspected fifth columnists operating in America during AND AFTER the war! (Two liberal heroes, FDR and Earl Warren authorized all kinds of internment and wiretapping) I have heard many first-hand accounts from our vets regarding torture of German and Jap soldiers to force them to reveal plans, or in some cases, just for revenge. Less money? Did no one ever tell you about gas and food rationing, the cessation of production of ALL cars from 1942 until 1946? Or that the U.S. was in a full-time war economy? Many people never knew a lot of what was happening because during WWII and the Korean War, the press was still pro-American. Maybe you HAVE heard about Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally; they went to jail for long periods of time for doing what many liberals do in this country every day. What in hell do they teach in schools these days?
 

Iraq did not attack us in any way.
That's the difference. The Iraq agenda was conceived by the Neocons prior to 9/11. 9/11 gave them the excuse to attack a country innocent of the attacks on the World Trade Center. World War II was nothing like that, and it had the support of the United State population.
 

Mass wiretapping isn't the same as warrantless wiretapping. Huge difference.

And there might have been rogue soldiers who broke the law ... but that's much different from state sanctioned torture.
 

...carpet bombing every major German city regardless of the number of non-combatants, dropping 2 A-Bombs. Yeah it was much more civilized in WWII.

Bubba you are right again
 

When I travel around the world on business, the number of people who express their thanks for what we have done far and away exceeds those who tell how wrong it is.

Interestingly, I have not met anyone who has not said how much they would like to live here.

Yeah we are bad.....very bad.
 

Like the first blogger said "boneheads" -- all of them. Must not have kids fighting in this meaningless war. Probably got deferments like Dickie Cheney. Bubba and Capt. America (probably has the costume and wears it on many other days other than Halloween[viagra substitute])and all the other rah, rah posters in here should volunteer TODAY. What are you waiting for. Go now!
 

For such a terrible country, 4-5 million people cross our borders annually just to enter this country. Unfortunately, it is liberals like Welch who think we can kiss and make up as long as OBL says he is sorry. I do have family in Iraq and I do support a military.
 

Amazing what a terrible country we are - and the legals and illegals keep pouring in!
 

Iraq is still not responsible for 9/11.
 

It's not the country--most opppose the War in Iraq. It's the decision-makers.
 

A country is not synonymous with its leaders and no amount of spin can make it so.
 

"Capt. America (probably has the costume and wears it on many other days other than Halloween[viagra substitute])"

Yeah, I know I got the last costume at WalMart. I understand you were disappointed but there was a nice pink tutu left. I thought you bought it.
 

No one trained and hid in Iraq; they trained and hid in Afghanistan--a completely different country.
 

The money support came from the Saudis in Saudi Arabia, though.
 

Anyone know of any attacks in America since 9/11?
 

Iraq still had nothing to do with
9/11. Your statement doesn't justify our being there.
 

"The Iraq War has already cost U.S. taxpayers...That’s $16,500 for each U.S. family of four." That is just disingenuous. I doubt very many Vermont families of four paid that much in federal taxes over the time of the war. I like Peter, but that spin is a little over the top for even me.
 

NEK said...

"For such a terrible country, 4-5 million people cross our borders annually just to enter this country."

Nice try, schmuck. You're gonna have to do more than your bogus Yankee Doodle Dandy shtick.

"Unfortunately, it is liberals like Welch who think we can kiss and make up as long as OBL says he is sorry.

And where is your evidence that Welch wants to kiss and make up with OBL, little fella?

Feel free to cough it up.

"I do have family in Iraq and I do support a military."

Then what are ya doin' here and why aren't ya there fightin' with your family, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Go cheney yourself, chump.

You're just another nameless-nitwit spewing ignorant, anonymous slop on the net you can neither substantiate or support with factual evidence.

You're dumb, you're scum and you're wastin' my dog's oxygen.

Disappear.
 

"The Iraq War has already cost U.S. taxpayers...That’s $16,500 for each U.S. family of four."

"That is just disingenuous. I doubt very many Vermont families of four paid that much in federal taxes over the time of the war. I like Peter, but that spin is a little over the top for even me."

And your evidence proving him wrong is...?

That's what I thought.

I don't give a damn what you "think," punk. If you can cough up some evidence and prove Welch wrong, do it.

That's what I thought.

Unless and until you can do that, little fella, you're just ignorant, anonymous trash with bupkis, spewing factually-challenged slop on the net you can't back up.

Disappear
 

"You are just totally full of pure unadulterated horsebrit, kaptain Un-America.

You can't substantiate a damned thing you say. You never can.

You are no more a Patriotic American than the Nazis were Patriotic Germans"

Sure thing Coopy. Like you are the lerading source of fact on this blog. Insults, dreamed up conspiracy theory and more insults sum up your contribution. As for a patriot... you are far too familiar with the nazis given all your references for me.
 

" don't give a damn what you "think," punk. If you can cough up some evidence and prove Welch wrong, do it."

A Lesson in the logic of a 'Cooped-Up Mind":

The poster needs to prove his statement but Welch can make statements without proof of fact and its okay. How does that make any sense...oh ya, if it is in line the jw's opinion , it's fact. If it doesn't, it's 'ignorant, anonymous trash with bupkis, factually-challenged slop you can't back up'.

Everyone got it now?
 

"JWCoop10 said...
bubba said...

"Anyone know of any attacks in America since 9/11?"

Ya mean besides the still-unsolved Anthrax attacks, little bigot boy?"

Are you suggesting the Anthrax attacks were tied to 9/11? You spend to much time in Mom's basement, Coopy, but nice job supporting Bubba's case for continued heightened national security.

Any more pearls of wisdom?
 

"I do have family in Iraq and I do support a military."

to which Coopy rants: 'Then what are ya doin' here and why aren't ya there fightin' with your family, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Go cheney yourself, chump."

Another example of the hand of human kindness offered by the Political Left. Be proud of your posterboy. He represents you well.

Pity the troubled child.
 

Anonymous said...
"JWCoop10 said...
bubba said...

"Anyone know of any attacks in America since 9/11?"

Ya mean besides the still-unsolved Anthrax attacks, little bigot boy?"

Are you suggesting the Anthrax attacks were tied to 9/11?

When did I say they were, little factually-challenged fella.

Again, your ability to never fail to fail never ceases to amaze and amuse, little fella.

Clearly, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, so I'll go over it again for your ignorant ass.

According to Wikipedia, these are the facts:

"The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its FBI case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18, 2001. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two Democratic U.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. The crime remains unsolved."

If you have evidence that the facts outlined in the Wikipedia passage provided are inaccurate, as always, feel free to fail to provide it, little never fail to fail to provide any evidence fella.

That's what I thought.

Again, this is what Bubba asked and my reply to him.

Bubba asked: "Anyone know of any attacks in America since 9/11?"

I replied: "Ya mean besides the still-unsolved Anthrax attacks, little bigot boy?"

So, based on Bubba's question, my response and the facts provided in the Wikipedia passage:

Is it your contention that the Anthrax Attacks beginning on 9/18/01 weren't attacks?

Is it your contention that 9/18/01 did not occur after the 9/11/01 attacks?

Is it your contention that Trenton, NJ is not located in America?

Is it your contention that the Offices of Senator Daschle and Leahy were not located in America?

Again, according to Wikipedia,

[edit] The letters
The anthrax letters are believed to have been mailed from Princeton, New Jersey.[3] In August 2002, investigators found anthrax spores in a city street mailbox located at 10 Nassau Street near the Princeton University campus. About 600 mailboxes that could have been used to mail the letters were tested for anthrax. The box on Nassau Street was the only one to test positive."

Again, if you have evidence that the facts contained in the cited passage are inaccurate, feel free to fail to provide evidence in support of your bogus claim, little fella.


"[edit] The notes
The New York Post and NBC News letters contained the following note:

09-11-01
THIS IS NEXT
TAKE PENACILIN NOW
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
ALLAH IS GREAT

The second anthrax noteThe second note that was addressed to Senators Daschle and Leahy read:

09-11-01
YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
YOU DIE NOW.
ARE YOU AFRAID?
DEATH TO AMERICA.
DEATH TO ISRAEL.
ALLAH IS GREAT."

As for your question to me:

"Are you suggesting the Anthrax attacks were tied to 9/11?"

Again, I never said that they were, but according to the notes provided, evidently, the authors are.

Again, little fella, if you have any factual evidence contradicting the Wikipedia account cited, as always, feel free to fail to provide it, little factually-challenged fella.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

Again, You make Bubba's point to a tee. We need to continue to wage the war on terror. Letting our guard down invites more attacks.

Thanks for doing Bubba's work for him. I didn't realize you were such a closet Bush fan.


BTW...nice line of questioning. I guess watching all those Boston Legal episodes is really paying off for you.
 

so what's with the glamour shot of Welch?
 

Wikipedia..the end all.

When does Wikipedia say jwcoop will pull a Vince Foster?

April 16, 2008?
We can only hope.
 

Other authorative sources per JW:
Air America
Huffington Post
Daily KOS
MoveOn.org
Everything ever said in any Oliver Stone movie
 

Anonymous said...

"Everyone got it now?"

Evidently, you don't, little factually-challenged fella.

"The poster needs to prove his statement but Welch can make statements without proof of fact and its okay."

Well if that were remotely true or accurate, little factually-challenged fella, in addition to being a first, you'd almost have a point, but it's not and ya don't.

Actually, what we're dealing with here specifically is TH's BFP account of what Welch will say and the Stiglitz evidence he'll base it on as follows, little factually-challenged fella:

"Tomorrow, when taxes are due, Rep. Peter Welch will join with a couple of colleagues for a news conference on how much you owe for the war in Iraq.

Actually, they'll tell you today:

"The Iraq War has already cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering $526 billion in direct costs and roughly $1.3 trillion to the economy. That’s $16,500 for each U.S. family of four, or roughly $3 billion for each Congressional district in the country. Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz calculates that the eventual cost of the war in Iraq will be about $3 trillion."

So, that said, are you saying that the figures attributed to Welch in TH's BFP account are inaccurate or false?

If so, who are you calling a liar, little factually-challenged fella, Welch, TH, Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning Economist or all of the above?

Again, if so, those are serious allegations, little fella.

As always, feel free to fail to produce any evidence in support of your specious, unsupported and unsupportable allegation, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/never fail to fail fella.

My faith in your inevitable failure to do so remains unshakable.

"How does that make any sense...oh ya, if it is in line the jw's opinion , it's fact. If it doesn't, it's 'ignorant, anonymous trash with bupkis, factually-challenged slop you can't back up'."

Nice try. First of all, little fella, none of your factually-challenged ignorant slop makes any sense because it's invariably factually-challenged, ignorant slop with no supporting evidence or factual foundation.

Secondly, it's evidence because it's evidence based on verifiable accounts from multiple cited knowledgeable, independent sources.

Are you questioning TH's honesty, integrity or knowledgeability here, little fella?

If so, feel free to elaborate as you fail to substantiate your allegations.

I never tire of watching you expose yourself as the ignorant ass you so clearly are.

TH is a reporter for the BFP reporting what Congressman Welch will and has said on the matter and the Stiglitz evidence Welch and his colleagues are basing all or part of their presentation on.

On the other hand, some nameless-nitwit claiming "That is just disingenuous. I doubt very many Vermont families of four paid that much in federal taxes over the time of the war. I like Peter, but that spin is a little over the top for even me." ain't evidence, little fella, it's merely the "doubts" of some nameless-nitwit with bupkis.

So, now that we've dispensed with that, ya wanna tell TH and the Freeps that she/they are being somewhat less than honest in the TH account cited some more or do you wanna tell her and the Freeps Folks how they're complicit in my alleged slander of an anonymous poster with bupkis, little factually-challenged fella?

Either way, knock yourself out. That's entertainment.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

You have been watching those Boston Legal re-runs haven't you.
 

Anonymous said...

"Other authorative sources per JW:
Air America
Huffington Post
Daily KOS
MoveOn.org
Everything ever said in any Oliver Stone movie"

In other words, ya got bupkis.

As always, feel free to fail to provide evidence to substantiate that allegation along with all the other evidence you never fail to fail to provide, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/never fail to fail fella.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

Anonymous said...

Again, You make Bubba's point to a tee. We need to continue to wage the war on terror. Letting our guard down invites more attacks."

In other words, ya got bupkis.

I'm shocked.

"BTW...nice line of questioning. I guess watching all those Boston Legal episodes is really paying off for you."

You're welcome.

As always, feel free to fail to make that case, too, little factually-challenged fella.

My faith in your inevitable failure remains unshakable, little never fail to fail fella.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

Good news...Jimmy Carter is on the case having a hug fest with Hamas. See the AP article below. This will go a long way to solving the Middle East problem. Like he was so good at managing it when he was on the job as Pres. The Iranians REALLY respect him.

The only thing missing is our roving goodwill ambassador Nancy Pelosi joining him.

-----------------------------------
RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - Former President Jimmy Carter embraced a leading Hamas figure Tuesday, according to participants in a meeting that infuriated Israeli officials already upset by Carter's freelance Mideast peace mission.
Carter also laid a wreath at the grave of Yasser Arafat, whom the Bush administration and many Israelis blame for the breakdown of peace talks seven years ago and the violence that followed.

At a reception in the West Bank town of Ramallah organized by Carter's office, the former president hugged Nasser Shaer, a senior Hamas politician, meeting participants said. Embraces between men are a common custom in Arab culture.
 

The object of spitzer's desire has left a new comment on the post "Bringing the war home":

"Wikipedia..the end all."

Like I said, little factually-challenged fella, if you've got evidence contradicting the facts of the Wikipedia entry I've cited, feel free to fail to produce it just like you've failed to produce evidence substantiating and in support of everything else you've ever claimed.

That's what I thought.

"We can only hope. "

You can't even do that, little never fail to fail fella. You can't even do that.

You can, however, get back to your Larry Craig Airport Men's Room Joint Appearance Tour '08, little fella.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

Thak you for the kind words Coopy. It is a pleasure to hear from the poster boy of the Dems/Progs.

You are quite a spokesman for your cause, a purveyor of goodwill and the single reason I have to be a conservative. Keep it up. Chase the undecides to the Red side.
 

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Bringing the war home":

"Thak you for the kind words Coopy. It is a pleasure to hear from the poster boy of the Dems/Progs. You are quite a spokesman for your cause, a purveyor of goodwill and the single reason I have to be a conservative.

"Thaks", schmuck. I'm not surprised to see even the likes of your ignorant, anonymous ass groping for reasons to remain a "conservative", little fella. Clearly, there's a lot of that goin' around.

As always, feel free to fail to produce evidence of me claiming to be a spokesman for Dems/Progs or anyone else, little never fail to fail fella.

I know you'll come through. You never fail to fail, little failure fella.

"Keep it up. Chase the undecides to the Red side."

Sure thing, schmuck. If you can get the "undecides", the Scum Vote may yet swell to triple figures in Vermont.

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

Anonymous said...

"Good news...Jimmy Carter is on the case having a hug fest with Hamas." See the AP article below. This will go a long way to solving the Middle East problem. Like he was so good at managing it when he was on the job as Pres. The Iranians REALLY respect him."

Yeah, Reagan and Ollie North really gained their respect when they were illegally trading arms for hostages with them, little factually-challenged fella.

How many US Hostages died because of Carter? How many hostages did Reagan fail to bring back in one piece when he and Ollie were trading arms for hostages with the Ayatollah?

That's what I thought.

"The only thing missing is our roving goodwill ambassador Nancy Pelosi joining him."

In other words, Pelosi is not there with Carter doing what you're claiming she'd be doing if she was there as you simultaneously confirm the fact that she's not there doing what she's not there doing.

Thanks for clearin' that up, little factually-challenged fella.

I'm sure Pelosi appreciates the air-tight alibi you've just provided her with should any other factually-challenged/utterly-psychotic nameless-nitwit with bupkis make similarly specious allegations against her.

I know I do.

You're a prince, putz.
 

So much ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis, so little time.
 

Anonymous said...

"Time to go to Iran !!

McCain/Cheney 2008 !!"

Hey, if that's the ticket/platform ya wanna run on, knock yourself out, little factually-challenged fella.

You run that sucker up the flagpole and see just who sig heils that sucker.

Always a pleasure.
 

Anybody heard from jwpoop lately?

He's been awful sparse with his comments.

You don't suppose his meds have been changed, do you?

Darned shame, because he usually contributes in such a thoughtful, meaningful manner.
 

You don't.
 

JW said: "You can, however, get back to your Larry Craig Airport Men's Room Joint Appearance Tour '08, little fella."

How did you know there was a tour Coopy? Are you one of the groupies? Read it in your NYU Alumni mag? Fess up twinkle toes.
 

"Yeah, Reagan and Ollie North really gained their respect "

Didn't Iran hold the hostages until Reagan was sworn into office to turn the hostages over to him?

The ordeal reached a climax when the United States military attempted a rescue operation, Operation Eagle Claw, on April 24, 1980, which resulted in an aborted mission and the deaths of eight American military men. The crisis ended with the signing of the Algiers Accords in Algeria on January 19, 1981. The hostages were formally released into United States custody the following day, just minutes after the new American president Ronald Reagan was sworn in. That's what wikipedia 'the offical fact book for JW Coop' says....

From Wikipedia:
In America, the crisis is thought by some political analysts to be the primary reason for U.S. President Jimmy Carter's defeat in the November 1980 presidential election. In Iran, the crisis is thought to have strengthened the prestige of the Ayatollah Khomeini and consolidated the hold of anti-Americanism and Iranian radicals who supported the hostage taking. The crisis also marked the beginning of American legal action, or sanctions, that economically separated Iran from America. Sanctions blocked all
property within US jurisdiction owned by the Central Bank and Government of Iran.

WOW they really respected and feared Jimmy C.

Yeah, Jimmy C handled it well. We still suffer from his incompetence today.

Did you forget those facts you little revisionist you Coopy or did they teach the facts differently in your NYU Poli Sci class?
 

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Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Bringing the war home":

""Yeah, Reagan and Ollie North really gained their respect ""

"Didn't Iran hold the hostages until Reagan was sworn into office to turn the hostages over to him?"

Yeah, they delayed the release to stick it to Carter for refusing to give Iran the exiled Shah. The Algiers Accords had already negotiated their release prior to Reagan being sworn in.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. As President Elect, he had no authority to do anything. No President-Elect does. Look it up.

"The ordeal reached a climax when the United States military attempted a rescue operation, Operation Eagle Claw, on April 24, 1980, which resulted in an aborted mission and the deaths of eight American military men. The crisis ended with the signing of the Algiers Accords in Algeria on January 19, 1981."

Gee, thanks for making my case for me, little factually-challenged fella.

Gee, I hate to confuse your ignorant ass with the facts, stupie, but if that's true, who negotiated the terms of Algiers Accords, little factually-challenged fella?

Reagan didn't become President until 1/20/81. He had no authority to negotiate anything while Carter was President. No President-Elect does. Look it up.

Is it your contention that 1/20/81 preceded 1/19/81, little factually-challenged fella? Gee, did Reagan don a cape and pull a Superman reversing the rotation of the Earth to go back in time, little fella?

Nice try. Evidently, they didn't teach ya how to count or read a calendar in your 4th Grade Class, little coalition of the clueless cretin fella.

Gee, that's a shame. That could have come in handy when you were fabricating this pathetic revisionist history of yours, stupie.

Once again, little fella, your pathetic arguments and lunatic-fringe POV may amount to and be about nothing, but you ain't no Seinfeld, schmuck.

"The hostages were formally released into United States custody the following day, just minutes after the new American president Ronald Reagan was sworn in."

"That's what wikipedia 'the official fact book for JW Coop' says...."

Wrong again, little factually-challenged fella.

Again, your own evidence undercuts your argument.

No wonder you fail to produce any so often. The facts just ain't doin' your ignorant ass any favors, little fella.

Just the facts, ma'am.

From Wikipedia:
"In America, the crisis is thought by some political analysts to be the primary reason for U.S. President Jimmy Carter's defeat in the November 1980 presidential election."

Well, little fella, if that's true, that would imply that some political analysts disagree with that POV rendering the matter somewhat less than settled and your point all the more moot.

Political analysts disagree all the time. Such is the nature of political analysis.

How does that advance your argument, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Once again, your "evidence" undercuts your own argument and you save me from any and all potential heavy lifting.

Thanks, little fella. For ignorant trash utterly incapable of rational thought, you're very thoughtful that way.

"...In Iran, the crisis is thought to have strengthened the prestige of the Ayatollah Khomeini and consolidated the hold of anti-Americanism and Iranian radicals who supported the hostage taking. The crisis also marked the beginning of American legal action, or sanctions, that economically separated Iran from America. Sanctions blocked all
property within US jurisdiction owned by the Central Bank and Government of Iran."

"WOW they really respected and feared Jimmy C."

"Yeah, Jimmy C handled it well. We still suffer from his incompetence today."

We do, eh? When the Algiers Accords were negotiated and completed on 1/19/81 as your evidence contends and the Hostages were released the following day moments after Reagan was sworn in as President, did Middle East hostage taking activities cease, little factually-challenged fella?

That's what I thought.

Is it your contention that they feared and respected Reagan, little fella? If so, how do you account for the continuation of Middle East Hostage taking. How do you account for the Arms for Hostages trading Reagan and Ollie were engaged in?

Moreover, if the Iranians and the rest of the Islamic World respected and feared Reagan so much, how do you account for the Beirut Barracks Bombing killing 241Americans in '83, little factually-challenged fella?

That's what I thought.

They didn't fear or respect Reagan's ignorant ass any more than I fear and respect yours, stupie.

And as long as we're citing Wiki:

"Hostage taking"

"... In 1979, Iranian students took hostage 66 employees of the United States embassy in Iran. On January 20, 1981, the day Ronald Reagan became President, the hostages were freed following the Algiers Accords. Hostage taking in the Middle East did not end there, however.[9] In 1983, members of Al-Dawa ("The Call"), an exiled Iraqi political party turned militant organization, were imprisoned for their part in a series of truck bombs in Kuwait. In response to the imprisonment, Hezbollah, an ally of Al-Dawa, took 30 Western hostages,[10] six of whom were American. Hezbollah demanded the release of the prisoners for these hostages.

Main article: Lebanon hostage crisis
Members of the Reagan Administration claim they believed that by selling arms to Iran, Iran would influence the Hezbollah kidnappers in Lebanon to release their hostages. At the time, Iran was in the midst of the Iran-Iraq War and could find few western nations willing to supply it with weapons.[11] The sale of arms would also, according to National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane, improve strained relations with Iran.[1]"

Concern for improved relations with Iran. No wonder the schmuck attempted suicide in '87 after being forced to testify before Congress once the Dems regained control of the Senate.

And another bogus, anonymous ignorant-trash "argument" goes Hindenburg as its factual foundations crumble and its evidence goes down in flames.

Oh, the sub-humanity!

Always a pleasure.

Dismissed.
 

What a revisionist! They keep the hostages for over a year, then when Reagan is elected suddenly free them! I guess it was OK to keep them all that time because Jimmy Carter was President and he meant well! Not because they feared Reagan. Strange events happen in the weird world of jwfool. God, what did we ever do wrong in Vermont to get this kind of trash sent to us from New York!

TAKE BACK VERMONT!
 

bubba has left a new comment on the post "Bringing the war home":

"What a revisionist! They keep the hostages for over a year, then when Reagan is elected suddenly free them! I guess it was OK to keep them all that time because Jimmy Carter was President and he meant well! Not because they feared Reagan."

Right on cue without a clue.

Well, little bigot boy, did they stop taking American Hostages in the Middle East when Reagan became President?

If so, why did Reagan and Ollie illegally trade arms for non-existent hostages? What would possess them to do such a thing, bubbles?

If they feared Reagan, how does your ignorant ass account for the Beirut Bombing of '83 killing 241 US Military Personnel - 220 of them Marines?

That's what I thought.

I don't give a damn what you guess, schmuck. If you can prove it, feel free to cough up the evidence and make your case. The floor is yours, little bigot boy.

That's what I thought.

"God, what did we ever do wrong in Vermont to get this kind of trash sent to us from New York!"

Feel free to cough up your evidence that I'm from New York, schmuck.

That's what I thought.

Moreover, what evidence do you have that your ignorant ass is from Vermont, punk?

That's what I thought.

"TAKE BACK VERMONT!"

It's not yours to take, little bigot boy.

Take your ignorant slop where the climate suits your sheet, schmuck.

That reminds me, God left a message on my machine instructing me to tell you to go cheney yourself. In fact, he said ya could extend the offer to all of nameless-nitwit nation.

Dismissed.
 

yawn.... more insults from the man with no plan

What is that number to donate to BFP?
 

JW's list of his favorite Americans

Best President.. Jimmy "the Peanut" Carter

Newscaster.. Dan "I'd" Rathher "make it up"

Farmer.. Tony "I stole the milk money and ran" (for Governor) P.

Preacher.. Rev Wrong

Bullshit Artist.. Bawwrack Ooobaammma

Drug of Choice... ridlin