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Political notes from Free Press staff writers Terri Hallenbeck, Sam Hemingway and Nancy Remsen

3.04.2008

Election scene

So it looks like the whole Democratic primary race is only getting tighter. Hillary Clinton wins Ohio and Rhode Island. Barack Obama wins Vermont. Texas up for grabs.

As I made the rounds to parties for each of the Democratic candidates tonight, there was some talk of the need to decide this thing soon so the party can get on with healing before the general election.

House Speaker Gaye Symington, a Clinton supporter, said it was odd to have a different sign on her lawn than her neighbor has. She's used to being on the same ideological side as her neighbor.

"I think we would all like to unite," Symington said.

Of course, neither side wants their candidate to be the one to give in, but at 7:30 p.m. with the Vermont results in and the other states still pending it seemed like Clinton would be the one. A few hours later, that's changed.

Other tidbits from the day:

- Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, didn't vote in the primary. he apparently voted on local Burlington issues, but stayed neutral as he has pledged to do, on the presidential primary.
- Sen. Patrick Leahy told the Vermont Obama crowd that if the Illinois senator is elected president, they can be sure he will visit Vermont, unlike the current president. If Clinton wins, will she visit Vermont?
- Some of the people I'm related to in Texas indicated that the caucuses there were heavily for Obama. I'm not related to a wide enough sample to tell you what that means for the overall results.
- Former Gov. Madeleine Kunin, who supports Clinton, said Clinton's vote for the war in Iraq is the one issue that bothers her about the former first lady. "It did bother me," Kunin said, but the issue now is getting out of Iraq and she believes Clinton is serious about that.
- UVM political science professor Garrison Nelson said if this race goes to Pennsylvania's April 22 primary, Obama has the edge there. Clinton never thought it would come to Pa.

- Terri Hallenbeck

posted by vt.Buzz | 11:14 PM |

Comments:

Of course the President doesn't visit Vermont, Mr. Leah. Towns are voting to indict the president. Where can he go without getting arrested?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:38 PM, March 05, 2008

Unfortunately, most anywhere and everywhere.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 5:24 PM, March 05, 2008

He is welcome anywhere in the United States with the possible exceptions of Brattleboro, San Fransisco, and jw's double-secret-womens-haters clubhouse.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:56 PM, March 05, 2008

"He is welcome anywhere in the United States with the possible exceptions of Brattleboro, San Fransisco, and jw's double-secret-womens-haters clubhouse."

Thank you, as always, for that ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist-trash take on things, little Un-American, nameless-nitwit fella.

You remain my eyes and ears in the clueless cretin community.

I can always count on the little bigot boy and your ignorant, ill-informed, Anti-American ass to keep me posted on the "thinking" of people who don't give a damn about Vermont, the United States of America or the World we live in.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 7:32 PM, March 05, 2008

"bubba said...
He is welcome anywhere in the United States with the possible exceptions of Brattleboro, San Fransisco, and jw's double-secret-womens-haters clubhouse."

I assume with JW's attachement to the Brattleboro senitment, his clubhouse is clothing optional.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:05 PM, March 05, 2008

I am wrapping up my 3rd trip to Europe and Asia over the last 4 months and have found a few things interesting:

1.) The amount of interest in the US elections is tremendous.

2.) There is much more support for George Bush and his policies in both Europe and Asia than the US media would ever let you believe.

3.) When I say I am from VT, everyone rolls their eyes and laughs. Almost everyone I have met knows of Brattleboro, its inclination to public nudity and desire to arrest George Bush. They laugh and think everyone in VT must be a nut job. Great PR effort guys.

4. Sadly JW, no one echoes your viewpoints.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:17 PM, March 05, 2008

Try meeting former Vermonters in different parts of this country. The response is always the same: "what in hell has happened in Vermont"? or "well, we'd like to move back there again to be with the grandkids, but who can afford the taxes?" Sad.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:07 AM, March 06, 2008

5th generation Vermonter here: don't let the door hit you in the ### when you leave. I'm confused, they come from NY, NJ and alike, turn Williston into NJ and complain? That's what has happened to Vermont.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:17 AM, March 06, 2008

Anonymous said...

"I am wrapping up my 3rd trip to Europe and Asia over the last 4 months and have found a few things interesting:

1.) The amount of interest in the US elections is tremendous.

2.) There is much more support for George Bush and his policies in both Europe and Asia than the US media would ever let you believe.

3.) When I say I am from VT, everyone rolls their eyes and laughs. Almost everyone I have met knows of Brattleboro, its inclination to public nudity and desire to arrest George Bush. They laugh and think everyone in VT must be a nut job. Great PR effort guys.

"4. Sadly JW, no one echoes your viewpoints."

Sure they don't, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella. And I'm heir to the Throne of England, the reigning Slam Dunk Champ and the undisputed Heavy Weight Champion of the World, too.

Nice try, little fella. No sale.

That must be why they're all increasing their military presence in Iraq and the dollar is stronger than ever, too.

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

Ya know, bein' a gop, it's a given that you're gonna lie, little fella. Face it, it's not like the your record.

That said, in view of that fact and given all the practice ya get, ya really oughta be better at it by now, schmuck.

Moreover, as long as the little bigot boy continues his stay here in Vermont, you may never be the dimmest, dumbest, biggest gawd damned liar to come down the pike, but you're clearly the worst.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:21 AM, March 06, 2008

bubba has left a new comment on the post "Election scene":

"Try meeting former Vermonters in different parts of this country. The response is always the same: "what in hell has happened in Vermont"? or "well, we'd like to move back there again to be with the grandkids, but who can afford the taxes?" Sad."

Try being one of them, schmuck. Soon. Yesterday would be fine.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:25 AM, March 06, 2008

Enough already with this -- we have voted in Florid and Michigan and we are fed UP with this. Stop yanking the party (and the electorate) around!
I think The Cookie summed it up best in her post:
http://lifeisacookie.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/do-over-blow-me-dnc/

Let's get on with this already!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:14 AM, March 06, 2008

Anonymous said...

"5th generation Vermonter here:"

Abenaki, eh? Congrats, little how the pluck does that have anything to do with your ignorant ass to say nothing of the topic at hand/nameless-nitwit fella. Clearly, that never would have happened without seconds of sacrifice, struggle and effort on your part.

Don't let the door hit ya in your sorry butt on the way outta Dodgenooski, schmuck.

"I'm confused,...." No kiddin'. Yeah, and Shaq is tall. You certainly have a tremendous gift for understatement, little fella.

"...they come from NY, NJ and alike, turn Williston into NJ and complain?"

"They" did, eh?

According to Jeff Davis, he's a native Vermonter. How do ya 'splain that, Lucy.

Tell ya what, little factually-challenged fella. Just for the sake of variety and the hell of it, you're about to make an unscheduled stop in Realityville.

Settle down. Relax. Take it easy.

I realize bubbles and you 2-3 nameless-nitwits dim enough to buy his act avoid that place like recycling or efforts to limit your alleged Second Amendment rights to weapons-grade Plutonium, but that's just too damned bad.

You'll survive, which, come to think of it, is also just too damned bad.

Just how, when and why did "they" manage to pry your say in the matter from your cold, dead fingers and "turn Williston into NJ, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/dumb as a post fella?

Furthermore, given the fact that Jeff Davis is a native Vermonter, just who the hell is "they" and how, when and why did their vote come to be worth more than yours, little fella, without you having some say in the matter?

That's what I thought.

"That's what has happened to Vermont."

Ya mean people started confusin' your ignorant ass with the facts, little fella?

You poor bastard. Musta been rough. Nobody knows the trouble you've seen.

Ya gonna start singin' "Ol' Man River" on me now, nitwit?

Dismissed.

8:17 AM, March 06, 2008

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 11:18 AM, March 06, 2008

JW "Abenaki, eh? Congrats"

no, Acadian, exiled in late 1700s.
Most of this thread has little to do with the original blog post.
Mr. Davis can speak for himself.
The rest of your rant doesn't deserve a reply.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:27 PM, March 06, 2008

SAnonymous said...
JW "Abenaki, eh? Congrats"

"no, Acadian, exiled in late 1700s."

So's my wife, schmuck, what's your point?

One of the many differences between her and the ignorant, ill-informed, sorry-ass likes of you is that she doesn't take credit for where she was born or pretend like she had something to do with it, like your fraudulent ass does.

Real Vermonters don't take credit for where they were born, schmuck, when it's just the luck of the draw. We know we had nothin' to do with it.

"Most of this thread has little to do with the original blog post."

Like that ever stopped you nameless-nitwits before.

"Mr. Davis can speak for himself.
The rest of your rant doesn't deserve a reply."

In other words, you've got no answer for it.

Ya got bupkis, schmuck.

Davis being a "real" Vermonter merely puts the lie to your "they" did this to us poor, persecuted native Vermonters song and dance routine as it confirms the obvious.

You coalition of the clueless cretins are like the Baltimore Orioles. A "real" bad ball club effectively outta the race by Easter officially being mathematically eliminated from the Pennant Race heading into the Labor Day Weekend.

Wait 'til next year, schmuck.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 4:20 PM, March 06, 2008

When did you start becoming a "Real Vermonter", jw? Do you think if you walk around in LL Bean boots and a flannel shirt that makes you some kind of "Real Vermonter"? Bet you've got an empty claw-hammer holster on your belt, too! Pathetic little flatlander pablum-puking pansy progressives that couldn't blow their noses without some kind of government assistance will never be "Real Vermonters". No real Vermonter would EVER vote for leftist trash like Bernie.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:31 AM, March 07, 2008

JW said..."Sure they don't, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella. And I'm heir to the Throne of England, the reigning Slam Dunk Champ and the undisputed Heavy Weight Champion of the World, too."

Nice JW...said with all the first hand knowledge you can possibly get from your bedroom in Mom's basement. You are an empty suit.

You bore me.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:58 AM, March 07, 2008

JWCOOP10 = blatherskite

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:58 AM, March 07, 2008