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2.27.2008

 

Surrogate Clinton

Indeed it does look as though the Vermont primary will matter. Not maybe as much as the Texas and Ohio primaries, but at least Vermonters will not be casting their ballots long after the thing was decided.

Which brings Chelsea Clinton to town. She'll be campaigning for her mother here on Friday. At the University of Vermont, is what I hear, but the details haven't been provided.

Chelsea, in her previous appearances elsewhere, has been willing to stand up at a podium and work the crowd but not speak to the media.

Comments:
What's Chelsea doing campaigning at UVM? New Jersey held its primary on Super Tuesday.

If Chelsea wants to meet real Vermont students, she should be visiting Castleton, Johnson, Lyndon, or Vermont Tech.
 
So, little fella. Is it your contention that there are no Vermont Students at UVM?
 
No, reading-challenged nitwit, just that there are more out-of-staters than Vermonters at UVM, and that there are more "Vermont" students at the aforementioned state colleges.

Politicking at college campuses is a waste of time anyway. Statistics show that students may attend rallies, but they don't actually bother to go to the polls. Especially in primaries.
 
Which "statistics" ??
 
There are far more Vermont students at UVM than at any other campus in Vermont.

Those out of state students you disparage bring huge amounts of money into Vermont - much of which is then spent on wages for Vermonters.

The state aid to UVM barely covers the standard discount to Vermont students. On top of the standard in-state discount UVM gives financial aid to a higher percentage of Vermonters than out of staters (by a good margin). They do all this saddled with a board of trustees laden with state legislators with minimal experience in higher education and minimal ability to raise big money from major donors.
 
I second 8:54AMs comment- which statistics are you reading, 10:52 PM? Apparently outdated ones. The young vote, 18-25 is one of the most sought after in the Democratic primary. Obama has ignited a fever in young Americans, who have been showing up in record numbers to cast votes in this primary. So why is Hillary's daughter campaigning at UVM? She is desperate to get some of those votes away from Obama, obviously. Notice they didn't start targeting the young vote until he pulled ahead? Further proof? Her campaign team started a website targeting young voters, hillaryspeaksforme.com, and tried to make it look like it just "sprung up" from folks in my generation. Yeah right, she obviously underestimates the intelligence of our nation's youth- the site is too polished to be a thrown together compilation of people's home videos.

And, for the record, I was born and raised in Vermont (now live in Washington DC), but I know plenty of instaters who went to UVM.
 
Anonymous said...

"No, reading-challenged nitwit, just that there are more out-of-staters than Vermonters at UVM, and that there are more "Vermont" students at the aforementioned state colleges."

Nice try, nitwit.

First of all, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella, while Chelsea Clinton may not have innocent blood on her hands or have been actively responsible for the crippling national debt resulting from the long national nightmare that is the War in Iraq that McCain does, but she's still got every bit as much right to fly in, speak and fly out McCain did and continues to do.

She's speaking at UVM for the same reason McCain made an appearance in the Chittenden County. It's where the population center is and because it's close to the airport.

She can zip in, reach the most people and zip out. What's the problem? McCain did the same thing. I don't recall you gettin' yourself in one of your lunatic-fringe lathers over his visit, little fraudulent fella.

Again, what's you ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit beef with Chelsea Clinton coming to Vermont on behalf of her Mother's Campaign, little fella?

I doubt her visit will do her Mother's Campaign much good, too, but if she wants to speak and appear here on her Mother's behalf, more power to her.

What's your little nameless-nitwit point?

As for your customarily ludicrous and unsubstantiated allegation that campaigning on college campuses is a waste of time, so what? It's her time to waste.

Then again, perhaps it's only a waste of time for gops to campaign on college campuses.

If xenophobic hysteria dressed up as patriotism and feeble-minded pleas to risk life and limb for no good reason are a tough sell for an educated population, it just might be the fault of the product, little fella.

"Politicking at college campuses is a waste of time anyway. Statistics show that students may attend rallies, but they don't actually bother to go to the polls. Especially in primaries."

Statistics show that, eh? What statistics? Where? When?

Feel free to cough 'em up, little "never gets tired of makin' allegations he can't substantiate" fella.

We'll just toss that on the pile with the rest of the factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest nameless-nitwit allegations you can't substantiate, too, little fraudulent fella.

Once again, little fundamentally-dishonest fella, even if Chelsea's appearance prompts someone to vote for Obama, she's done a service to the State of Vermont and the Country and should be commended for it.

Ya got a problem with public service, little fella?

If so, you're the factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, nameless nitwit with the problem, schmuck.

Nice talkin' to ya.
 
"Those out of state students you disparage"

Where did I disparage them?
 
Gee, now I'm even carryin' the conversations I'm not involved in.

You nameless nitwits might wanna lose the bupkis and come up with something of your own to say.

Where's all that personal responsibility and self reliance you loons are always pretending to possess?
 
Anonymous said...

"Which "statistics" ??"

You must be new in town.

You weren't seriously expecting the little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, coalition of the clueless cretin in question to actually substantiate one of his bogus allegations were ya?

If he knew which end is up, what day it is and could substantiate a damned thing he said he wouldn't be him.



If he knew

8:54 AM, February 28, 2008
 
Nice try, nitwit.
little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella
your lunatic-fringe lathers
little fraudulent fella
you ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit
little fella
your little nameless-nitwit point
your customarily ludicrous and unsubstantiated allegation
little fella
little "never gets tired of makin' allegations he can't substantiate" fella
factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest nameless-nitwit allegations
little fraudulent fella
little fundamentally-dishonest fella
little fella
you're the factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, nameless nitwit with the problem, schmuck
nameless nitwits
you loons
little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, coalition of the clueless cretin
bogus allegations
 
"she's still got every bit as much right to fly in, speak and fly out McCain did and continues to do"

Where did I say she didn't, little unable-to-read idiot fella?
 
"Really? So, little factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest fella, if the Martin Family had a long, well-documented history of contributing generously to the Vermont Democratic Party along with an incident or two displaying some rather questionable editorial judgement along the way, you'd have no problem with that, eh?"

"And that proves that the poll in question was rigged . . . how, little dumb-schmuck, anti-social, psychotic, illogical, misanthropic idiot-fella?

Ya mean besides calling the integrity of the Martin Family and WGOP's ability to conduct themselves in a fair and impartial manner into question while at the very least raising the appearance of a conflict of interest, little fraudulent, ethically-challenged fella?

Gee, while I realize this has no bearing on the ignorant, ill-informed, lyin' sack of gop-slop likes of you, that'd be more than enough for anyone with a shred of intellect or intellectual honesty, little fella.

Clearly, you're at a competitive disadvantage when stuff like fact and evidence enter the equation and that such concepts are as beyond you as you are beneath me, I'll endeavor to remember just who and what I'm dealing with and how little you've got to work with.

That said, feel free to point out just where the other fella or I said it proved the poll in question was rigged, little lyin' sack o' gop-slop fella.

That's what I thought.

And the ever-expanding pile of specious allegations you can't substantiate continues to grow exponentially, little factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest fella.

The folks must be so proud.
 
""she's still got every bit as much right to fly in, speak and fly out McCain did and continues to do""

"Where did I say she didn't, little unable-to-read idiot fella?"

Nice try, little nameless-nitwit, got-bupkis fella.

Just where did I say ya did, little somehow can just never manage to come up with those statistics you cite, ignorant trash fella?

Always a pleasure.
 
JWCoop10 said...

Yawn. zzzzzzzz
 
Poor little fella - gone off in a psycho snit ever since his pal Doug's fraudulent assumptions about Vermont taxes were debunked, ridiculed, and thrashed like a rented mule. Hey, jw, get some kind of life! You know crushing leftists fools like yourself is like shooting fish in a barrel!
 
The great unknowns of life:

What is the meaning of life?
Was Paul McCartney really the Walrus?
Was JFK really pulling out of VietNam before his assassination?
Is JWCOOP really Doug Hoffer's evil twin?

The pressure must be on JW. He is talking about what he learned from Grandma again.
 
You wish.
 
You both wish.
 
Yawn! ..boring!
 
Anonymous said...
The great unknowns of life:

"What is the meaning of life?
Was Paul McCartney really the Walrus?
Was JFK really pulling out of VietNam before his assassination?
Is JWCOOP really Doug Hoffer's evil twin? "

Nice try, little nameless-nitwit fella.

There's certainly no mystery surrounding the fact that you can't distinguish your ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest ass from your elbow.

If nothing else, you've clearly cracked that caper.

Nice talkin' to ya.
 
Anonymous said...

"Yawn! ..boring!"

Bupkis, tell me about it.
 
ZZZZZZ!
 
little fraudulent, ethically-challenged fella?
ignorant, ill-informed, lyin' sack of gop-slop
anyone with a shred of intellect or intellectual honesty
little fella.
little lyin' sack o' gop-slop fella
specious allegations
little factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest fella
little nameless-nitwit, got-bupkis fella
little somehow can just never manage to come up with those statistics you cite, ignorant trash fella
factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash perspective, little bigot boy
delusional dreck and gop goo
your latest heapin' helpin' of delusional dreck
dumb white-supremacist trash nonsense
your red-state rubbish
little bigot boy
Nice try, little nameless-nitwit fella
your ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest ass
Bupkis
 
little fraudulent, ethically-challenged fella?
ignorant, ill-informed, lyin' sack of gop-slop
anyone with a shred of intellect or intellectual honesty
little fella.
little lyin' sack o' gop-slop fella
specious allegations
little factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest fella
little nameless-nitwit, got-bupkis fella
little somehow can just never manage to come up with those statistics you cite, ignorant trash fella
factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash perspective, little bigot boy
delusional dreck and gop goo
your latest heapin' helpin' of delusional dreck
dumb white-supremacist trash nonsense
your red-state rubbish
little bigot boy
Nice try, little nameless-nitwit fella
your ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest ass
Bupkis
 
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