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2.29.2008

 

Not a moment too soon

The Legislature is headed into a week-long hiatus for town meeting week. Like school vacations used to feel - it comes not a moment too soon.

As they leave, the Department of Public Service and the Senate Finance Committee are in a kind of standoff. The department won't send anyone to testify (the commissioner is in Colorado, anyway, I'm told) because the commissioner is not satisfied with the Senate's response to the machine-gun incident.

Sen. Mark MacDonald, the Orange County Democrat, told Public Service department employee Sarah Hofmann that in China, officials are lined up and shot for not providing information. He asked who would be shot here if that were the ways things were done. At the time, Hofmann smoothly suggested he could shoot her and those in the room issued a nervous laughter.

Afterward, MacDonald apologized to Hofmann, to the committee and eventually to the full Senate. "Last week in committee I made some remarks my mother wouldn't be happy with," he said. He still fuming, though, about information he says legislators haven't been told regarding agreements between the state and Vermont Yankee.

The exchange prompted a letter from Commissioner David O'Brien suggesting Senate President Pro Tem Peter Shumlin switch MacDonald to a different committee. Shumlin laughed when I asked him if that was likely. Committee Chairwoman Ann Cummings said one DPS employee told her he/she wasn't permitted to come before Cummings' committee this week as a result.

Will the dust have settled when they return? On the committee's schedule that week: Vermont Yankee's corporate restructuring.

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
Making mountains out of mole hills. Let it go already. It's run its news cycle.
 
Absolutely. Anyway, this is peanuts compared to how the Douglas Administration treats their own employees.
 
Why does the Legislature have to take all next week off? Can't they come back to Montpelier after Town Meeting and work Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?
 
Why don't we (the taxpayers) pay for a one-way ticket for Senator MacDonald so that he can go to China? It's a win-win plan -- he'd be out of the State House, off the Senate Finance Committee and with his own kind. Think about what would have happened if this comment came from a Republican.
 
I am a Republican and I agree with the above message.
 
While MacDonald's comments were reprehensible and inexcusable, unlike the Douglas Administration, he took responsibility for his actions.

Furthermore, MacDonald's comments don't change the fact that he had a legitimate point in calling Hofman out on her questionable job performance and unwillingness to provide the MacDonald and Senate Finance Committee with the necessary information they so reasonably requested.

Again, while MacDonald was wrong in saying what he said, he was well within his rights to demand Hofman produce the information the Senate is entitled to have.

Moreover, unlike the Douglas Administration and its supporters, MacDonald is competent, serious in his efforts to discharge his duties on behalf of the people of Vermont.

In short, he gives a damn.

If only one could say the same of Douglas and his supporters.
 
"Moreover, unlike the Douglas Administration and its supporters, MacDonald is competent, serious in his efforts to discharge his duties on behalf of the people of Vermont.
In short, he gives a damn."

You're entitled to your favorable opinion of MacDonald.

"If only one could say the same of Douglas and his supporters."

And the basis for your broad, sweeping opinion that Gov. Douglas and all of his suppoters "don't give a damn" is . . .?

That's what I thought.
 
Notice how whenever one of jw's left-wing loons like MacDonald get caught with their pants down he becomes all serious and almost adult-like? "Well, he made a minor mistake, but.....blubber, blubber, blubber"! Must be wonderful to be "liked" by jw!
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Not a moment too soon":

"Moreover, unlike the Douglas Administration and its supporters, MacDonald is competent, serious in his efforts to discharge his duties on behalf of the people of Vermont.
In short, he gives a damn."

"You're entitled to your favorable opinion of MacDonald."

Gee, thanks, Captain Obvious. That's mighty sweet of ya to say.

"If only one could say the same of Douglas and his supporters."

"And the basis for your broad, sweeping opinion that Gov. Douglas and all of his suppoters "don't give a damn" is . . .?"

Ya mean, besides the obvious, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella?

That's what I thought.

"Suppoters", eh? Gee, little "I'm not gonna even bother baitin' the hook if you're gonna just jump in the boat and break your own frickin' neck for me" nameless-nitwit fella, I'm not familiar with that term.

My comments were addressed to the Douglas Administration and its supporters, so you're gonna have to entertain me in greater detail.
 
Anonymous said...

"Why don't we (the taxpayers) pay for a one-way ticket for Senator MacDonald so that he can go to China?"

Why don't ya just beat him at the polls, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/nameless-nitwit fella and ya can save we {the taxpayers) the price of the ticket.

I realize sound fiscal practices aren't exactly a gop strong suit and acting in the best interests of the people of Vermont has never been a gop priority, but nevertheless, that would be the intelligent, fiscally prudent thing to do.

You coalition of the clueless cretins might want to try it some time if only as a change of pace.
 
MacDonald and fiscal responsibility? The two go together like oil and water. There is no bigger left-wing liberal tax-and-spender in the Senate. Just another fool lefty bought and paid for by the NEA.
 
This blog would be great but for all you holier than thou losers that comment here. What a bunch of dorks. Only reason to read these comments is to get a laugh about how idiotic and annoying the pajama brigade can be. And this JW Coop character (terrible movie, by the way, Cliff Robertson sucks!) seems to be leading the troops, wearing his tinfoil hat and raising his plunger up and down to the beat created by the rest of the pajama brigade banging their pacifiers on their little plastic snack cups.

It's Sunday, folks. Get out. Take a hike. Get a beer. Meet a woman.
 
""And the basis for your broad, sweeping opinion that Gov. Douglas and all of his suppoters "don't give a damn" is . . .?"

Ya mean, besides the obvious, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella?"

If you've got evidence that Douglas and his supporters "don't give a damn," specify it.

Your lazy, unsubstantiated claim that "it's obvious," with a string of insults thrown in, doesn't cut it, little ridiculous fella.
 
REAL News You won't See on TV: Dick Cheney's NEXT Big Energy MONOPOLY Power RIPOFF:

Obama is the pre-packaged "New & Improved Chocolate Flavor" Presidential candidate PRODUCT - being hyped & PUSHED by GE and its WHOLLY-Owned subsidiaries NBC & MSNBC...along with Westinghouse & its subsidiary CBS...while slamming the Clintons all day every day. (Assisted by...CNN/FOX/ and a lot of newspaper & radio media dependent on advertising$$.)

GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

[NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

Clinton Voed AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

? "Its about the FUTURE...Turn The PAGE" ?

Nope. ts about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of inventing New, Clean, Green De-Centralized inexpensive Energy.

An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for-everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns-Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 140 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; stored on-site at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners, aunts, uncles cousins...of Registered Federal Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald)and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers. Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants amd fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS)

GE & the same wealthy people who sold the "new & improved vanilla flavor" Presidential PRODUCTS: Reagan & Bush/s 1 & 2 - are behind the massive ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN to sell you OBAMA.

At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton-even though they all knew they were pushing the Big Lie.

With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

The only way a very small minority can CONTROL a very large Majority is: DIVIDE & CONQUER-Exactly the same Republican Strategy/Deception they have successfully pulled for most of the last century And ALL of this century, so far. . .

GE, the nuke industry/wealthy have hedged their bets & they will get Billions of your money via 29 new nukes IF either Obama or McCain is elected President.

Ladies & Gentlemen, Dads & Moms buy nothing GE & Westinghouse are selling - not Obama, not a washing machine, a dishwasher, 29 nuke power plants, or a garbage disposer .... because there is no garbage disposer for Radioactive Nuke Waste. Do not allow them to poison the earth and your children anymore.
 
Secretary of Adminstration Hu Jintao...I mean Michael Smith...kind of runs state goverment like a totalitarian dictator. MacDonald's China analogy wasn't lost on this reader.
 
Oh, congratulations. The "line 'em up and shoot 'em" comment seems fully justified now.

Remind me. Was Dean's Secretary of Administration (Bill Sorrell) different than Mr. Smith?
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Not a moment too soon":

"Oh, congratulations. The "line 'em up and shoot 'em" comment seems fully justified now."

"Remind me. Was Dean's Secretary of Administration (Bill Sorrell) different than Mr. Smith?"

Ya mean beyond the fact that he was competent and gave a damn about Vermont and Vermonters, little fella?

If you're lookin' for favorite colors and stuff like that, you'll have to ask 'em yourself.

Always a pleasure.
 
"Ya mean beyond the fact that he was competent and gave a damn about Vermont and Vermonters, little fella?"

That's your opinion.

And your evidence for it is . . .?

That's what I thought. It's just your jw-opinion.
 
And your evidence that he isn't?
 
Yawn.....JW has no facts; just insults. He is the resident empty suit on this board.
 
This comment has been removed by the author.
 
yawn.... you bore us.
 
Anonymous said...

"yawn.... you bore us."

Well, seein' how "us" consists entirely of one or two nameless nitwits, ya wanna hurry up and get to the part where I'm supposed to give a damn, little bupkis boy.
 
Yawn...offer something of value. Your routine is boring.
 
Jw, Have you ever put a single fact on the table since you came to this board? I think not. Dismissed little man.
 
Anonymous said...

"Yawn...offer something of value. Your routine is boring."

Yawn, and without me, your nameless-nitwit song and dance routine doesn't exist.

That's what we in the reality-based community call a fact, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella.
 
"Jw, Have you ever put a single fact on the table since you came to this board?"

Ya mean besides the fact that you couldn't buy one and ya got bupkis, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella?

Well, for openers, thanks again for proving once that there's people who give a damn about Vermont and this Country and then there's the ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist slime, nameless-nitwit likes of you and the little bigot boy and saving me the trouble, little "thanks for takin' care of all the heavy lifting for me" fella.

As factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, neo-nazi, nameless-nitwits go, you're very thoughtful.

"I think not."

Gee, thanks for clearin' that up.

Ya get no argument from me on that score, little fella.

Dismissed.
 
Why is it that JW gets away with calling everyone else "nameless" and "anonymous", but he is using the title of a really, really bad Cliff Robertson movie as his screen name?

Hey JW, practice what you preach . . . either you are Cliff Robertson, or you are not . . . and if you are not, either start using your little name or get off your high horse and admit that you are anonymous too!
 
"Why is it that JW gets away with calling everyone else "nameless" and "anonymous", but he is using the title of a really, really bad Cliff Robertson movie as his screen name?"

Thanks for that anonymous putz perspective, little nameless-nitwit posting as anonymous, siskel and ebert wannabe" fella.

If you're too clueless to grasp the fact that you're too clueless to realize that you're clearly an incredibly stupid schmuck too clueless to grasp the incontrovertible fact that you're an incredibly stupid schmuck armed with bupkis, then you've got bupkis, little too dumb to live fella.

Adult Basic Education. Look into it. Soon.

"Hey JW, practice what you preach . . . either you are Cliff Robertson, or you are not . . . and if you are not, either start using your little name or get off your high horse and admit that you are anonymous too!"

Well, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/waste of oxygen fella, if I were posting under the name anonymous, you'd have a point, but I'm not, so ya don't.

Get one of your fellow nameless-nitwit bupkis merchants to explain it to ya when someone's done explaining it to them.

Oy, what an anonymous putz.
 
Please stop posting anonymously under the name of a lame character I played in a terrible movie a long time ago.

Remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
 
Cliff Robertson said...

"Please stop posting anonymously under the name of a lame character I played in a terrible movie a long time ago."

Gee, while I'm pleased to see you're no longer posting as a bupkis-spewing, nameless-nitwit, Cliff, if ya dislike the character you played in the movie you made in 1971, ya might wanna look to the schmuck in your mirror.

You co-wrote the script, directed and starred in the film, little fella. If you don't like the results, tell your troubles to said schmuck in said mirror.

As for the use of the name, if ya don't like me using it, call a cop.

Oy, what a putz. Get over yourself, schmuck. You loons can't even change the subject and pick a fight on a side issue without cheneying it up six ways to Sunday.

It's a given that ya got bupkis and you're in no position to argue the law or the facts, of your alleged case on the merits because there are none, but this delusional dreck is the best ya can come up with!

"Remember, with great power comes great responsibility."

Yeah, I like Chinese, too.

Seinfeld, four!

Always a pleasure.
 
jw said....

nothing actually...again.

Be gone empty suit. You bore us.
 
"Begone you empty suit..." Who writes like that outside of the nineteenth century?
 
yawn....empty suit.

Do you have any facts to offer or just your endless prejudice and hatred?
 
"Anonymous said...
"Begone you empty suit..." Who writes like that outside of the nineteenth century?"

In most cases anyone that has made it past the third grade.

How is recess going for you?
 
Anonymous said...
yawn....empty suit.

"Do you have any facts to offer or just your endless prejudice and hatred?"

Ya mean besides the fact that you've got bupkis and remain 0-everything, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/ignorant-trash fella?

Yeah, but you're havin' enough trouble comin' to terms with those.

Dismissed.
 
Again, you avoid the basic question by replying with insults.

You have no substance. You are an empty suit.

You bore me.

Yawn.
 
Boed? Then stop reading the posts.
Problem solved.
 
Anonymous said...

"Boed? Then stop reading the posts.
Problem solved."

Don't confuse the whacks with the facts. It's not like the loons have got anything to say or a capacity for thought, for cryin' out loud.
 
"Don't confuse the whacks with the facts. It's not like the loons have got anything to say or a capacity for thought, for cryin' out loud."

...jw said looking into a mirror
 
"Begone" is an antiquated word used by people who think it gives them intellectual stature, but really shows an appalling lack of style.
 
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