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2.14.2008

 

McCain's visit

John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, made an airport pit stop in South Burlington today to speak at rally attended by more than 400 folks.

The Arizonan appeared in good spirits, pretending to guzzle a bottle of maple syrup presented to him by Lt. Gov. Brian Dubie as Dubie welcomed the senator to Vermont. Speaking later about the evil of earmarks, McCain joked about the $3 million allocated to study the DNA of bears in Montana.

"I don't know if that's a paternity issue or a criminal issue, but it was your money," McCain declared as the crowd chuckled.

McCain, who was headed to Rhode Island later in the day, said he came to Vermont because he wants to "take the campaign everywhere" and hopes to "win next Tuesday's primary."
Reminded later by a reporter that Vermont's primary isn't until March 4 , he acknowledged the goof and said he was glad to be corrected before he got to Providence.

He also said he intended to come back to Vermont during the fall campaign if he's the nominee.

During his stump speech, he touched on his support for the war and for combatting climate change, saying on such a cold day as this, that term seemed more appropriate than "global warming." He said he supported making Bush's tax cuts permanent, dramatically reforming the tax code and chasing down Osama bin Laden even if it means following him to the "gates of hell."

McCain's speech lasted about a half hour.

-- Sam Hemingway

Comments:
Gee, "over 400 folks," eh?

He could get up to ten times that much in November.
 
Is McCain saying that he's against federal funding for science?
 
coop: McCain was outpolling Gore back in early 2000. Don't forget Vermonters' independent streak.
 
What McCain "gets" in Vermont may be more an indication of how far the state has sunk into the wretchedness of left-wing fanaticism than his moral and principled stands in refusing to surrender to terrorists or pump more money into useless "earmarks".
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "McCain's visit":

"Is McCain saying that he's against federal funding for science?"

Well, given the fact that he's abandoned all the rational views that previously made him appealing to moderates to appease to the flat-earth psychosis of the GOP's Tennessee Taliban Base and is now pro-torture, good buddies with Mittwit and wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years while simultaneously claiming he'll cut wasteful spending, it wouldn't be surprising.

Irrational people espousing such irrational views tend not to put much stock in science, the facts or reality in general while people who don't have no future in the GOP as long as the flat-earth lunatic-fringe continues to support Huck Finnished.
 
If he's against federal funding for the study of bears, is he also against federal funding for the study of space?

Does he want to eliminate NASA and the space program?
 
coop:

"McCain was outpolling Gore back in early 2000. Don't forget Vermonters' independent streak."

barreboy: Don't forget it's not early 2000. It's early 2008.

Don't forget the election wasn't in early 2000. It was in November.

I believe they're going with the same schedule this year, too.

Don't forget McCain didn't win the nomination. Bush did.

Did Bush carry Vermont in 2000?

Did Bush carry Vermont in 2008?

That's what I thought.

Don't forget Jim Jeffords was still a Republican in 2000.

Don't forget he wasn't in early 2001.

Evidently, he'd had enough of shrub/cheney and friendly fascism and reminded them he'd taken an oath to defend the Constitution, not the madness of king george while advising them he didn't goose step and bid farewell to fascism.

If only the GOP and the nitwits who voted for Bush had so much integrity. There'd be a lot more ex-gops and this Country and the world would be a much better place.

Then, of course, there's 9/11, Iraq, Wiretap Gate, Katrina, Dubai Ports, Harriet Miers, etc, etc, etc.

Vermonters are independent, but with the exception of a few neanderthals and some anonymous nitwits, they're not psychotic and stupid.

Big Difference.
 
And all Republicans are not religous right wing zealots.
 
Anonymous said...

"And all Republicans are not religous right wing zealots."

Try winnin' the WH without 'em.

No racists, no reagan.

No bigots, no bush.
 
No fools, no jw.
 
Hey, coop, that's the kind of elitist, claim-to-be-smarter-than-you-while-spewing-unthinking-vitriol garbage that just might help get a Republican like John McCain a win here in 2008. Remember, we do have a Republican gov and lt. gov, lest you forget.

And don't even get me started on the Democratic Party's fine tradition of racism and bigotry. Just ask the KKK's favorite senator, Robert Byrd (D-WV).
 
Anybody check out that sap Kevin Mullen on the stage yesterday with McNeedsaCain? His simple self mugging for the camera. These Republicans become like little schoolkids when someone of any stature comes to the state. Douglas was just as bad. With all that white hair in the crowd, looked more like a wake yesterday.
 
anon: Tell that to all the college kids, young parents and Norwich cadets that were in the crowd. But if you are saying the Republicans respect those with experience and the wisdom that comes with age, I guess I can accept that. See how far badmouthing seniors gets the Dems in Noember.
 
The Norwich cadets HAD to be there FarreBoy. They got extra credit for suffering through the event.
 
Yup, old white-haired McCain only suffered thru the Hanoi Hilton defending his country. Gosh, I guess he should have been smoking pot, running to Canada with his skirt up, and going to England like Clinton to denounce his country from a safe distance! He sure doesn't qualify for a UVM professorship.
 
"Hey, coop, that's the kind of elitist, claim-to-be-smarter-than-you-while-spewing-unthinking-vitriol garbage that just might help get a Republican like John McCain a win here in 2008."

Not unless "here" is Mississippi or Utah, barreboy.

Hey, the facts are the facts, little fella and they sure as hell ain't doing you or any other delusional gop any favors.

If you find a rundown of reality to be "unthinking vitriol", that's your problem.

Feel free to point out just which of the facts I addressed in response to your previous post to be "unthinking vitriol", little fella.

Hey, don't get me wrong, barreboy, if I was a psychotic gop smacked in the face with the facts, I'd probably be reluctant to face reality, too. You have my sympathies.

Of course, there's the additional fact that flush and the rest of the lunatic-fringe rubbish are vehemently anti-McCain, little fella.

Evidently Flush has threatened to endorse Obama if he gets the Dem Nomination as he's likely to do as of today.

If Flush endorses Obama and stiffs McCain, the rest of the talk radio rubbish, chicken-hawk brain trust will follow like lemmings and the Tennessee Taliban hates him, too, as you'd expect the good Christians and loyal republicans they are would do.

"Remember, we do have a Republican gov and lt. gov, lest you forget."

We had 'em in '04, too, when doogie was shrub's State Campaign Chair, lest you forget barreboy.

How'd that work out for you clowns?

That's what I thought.

Given the fact that the 2007 was a lock to be the deadliest year of the Iraq War before Halloween, just what do you think has made the Iraq War more popular than it was 4 years ago, barreboy?

Don't forget, little fella, that we've got two Dems and an Independent representing Vermont in Washington with Leahy, Welch and Bernie and solid Dem Majorities in both Vermont Legislative Chambers, sport.

"And don't even get me started on the Democratic Party's fine tradition of racism and bigotry. Just ask the KKK's favorite senator, Robert Byrd (D-WV)."

David Duke (R-LA). KKK Leader turned GOP low-life.

Damn! Those facts just won't you be, little fella.

Gee, that's a shame.

Any time you're ready, little fella.

The alleged "Party of Lincoln" didn't even last as long as Lincoln.
 
"Yup, old white-haired McCain only suffered thru the Hanoi Hilton defending his country. Gosh, I guess he should have been smoking pot, running to Canada with his skirt up, and going to England like Clinton to denounce his country from a safe distance! He sure doesn't qualify for a UVM professorship."

Tell it to Flush and the Tennessee Taliban, spinderella. They might lynch him before he even gets to the General Election, spindy.

Personally, I like watchin' you loons tear down your own presumptive nominee and rip each other apart.

That's entertainment.
 
bubba said...

"No fools, no jw"

All bubbles, all bupkis, all bigotry, all the time.
 
"Arizonan," shouldn't it be "arizon-ian?"
 
"Of course, there's the additional fact that flush and the rest of the lunatic-fringe rubbish are vehemently anti-McCain, little fella."

And this means what with respect to McCain, little fella?
 
"Damn! Those facts just won't you be, little fella."

Just won't you be?

And this means what, little fella?
 
"Yup, he should have been smoking pot..." or snorting coke and deserting his post in the Air Guard.
 
"Of course, there's the additional fact that flush and the rest of the lunatic-fringe rubbish are vehemently anti-McCain, little fella."

"And this means what with respect to McCain, little fella?"

You're seriously having trouble understanding how a flush threat to endorse Barack Obama in addition to endorsing full-scale revolt on the part of his utterly-psychotic listeners in opposition to his bid to become the Presidential nominee of an already lunatic-fringe party hopelessly mired in charges of corruption, indifference and incompetence might complicate matters for McCain, little fella?

Clearly I've overestimated you.

Are you familiar with the expression a house divided against itself can not stand, little fella?

Ya might wanna look it up.

Always a pleasure.
 
What is a Tennessee Taliban? Is that like a Tennessee Walking Horse? Or Tennessee Sour Mash?
 
"You're seriously having trouble understanding how a flush threat to endorse Barack Obama in addition to endorsing full-scale revolt on the part of his utterly-psychotic listeners in opposition to his bid to become the Presidential nominee of an already lunatic-fringe party hopelessly mired in charges of corruption, indifference and incompetence might complicate matters for McCain, little fella?"

Nah, little intellectually-challenged fella. Since the subject at hand was the merits or demerits of McCain, what I was asking is what Rush's anti-McCain attitude had to do with it.

Clearly, you can't think outside the box of your own paranoid, insult-laden mentality.
 
Nah, little intellectually-challenged fella. Since the subject at hand was the merits or demerits of McCain, what I was asking is what Rush's anti-McCain attitude had to do with it."

Let's review the facts, little fella.

First of all, you quoted a passage from one of my posts where I'm making a point about McCain's problems with his own party and ask me what Flush has to do with McCain.

I answer you and now you're telling me that your ridiculous question respecting the quote of mine you've cited has nothing to do with the point I was making in the post you cited.

Nice try, little fella. No sale.

You're not thinking outside the box. You just don't know what day it is.

Once again, little fella, just which part of not only will McCain have a tough time going against Obama or Hillary, he's got serious problems with his own party in the person of Flush, talk radio trash in general and the Tennessee Taliban in particular is giving you trouble?

Dismissed.
 
Anonymous said...
"Damn! Those facts just won't you be, little fella."

Just won't you be?

"And this means what, little fella?"

It means I neglected to put less between won't and you, little fella.

Aside from that, the comment still stands.
 
bubba said...

"Yup, old white-haired McCain only suffered thru the Hanoi Hilton defending his country."

Ya mean like Shrub, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol, Dan Quayle, Doug Feith and the rest of the chicken-hawk slime that supported the war as long as they didn't have to actually fight or die in it and it didn't interfere with their other priorities, spinderella?

That's what I thought.

Bubbles comes up bupkis yet again

Gee, what are the odds.

Always a pleasure.
 
"It means I neglected to put less between won't and you, little fella."

You mean, "let."

Even when you try to correct your own mistake, you screw it up a second time.

Then of course you go on about your usual business of insulting other people.

What a dope.
 
"It means I neglected to put less between won't and you, little fella."

You mean, "let."

Yeah, I screwed that up, but unlike the likes of you, I won't claim I was thinking about something else, blame it on the dog wanting to go out or try to blame you for my mistake.

"Then of course you go on about your usual business of insulting other people."

Nice try, nitwit. I nail you clueless cretins 'cause ya got bupkis for a case and ya can't spell.

Big Difference.
 
"I nail you clueless cretins . . ."

You do no such thing you delusional psycho.

You're the one with all the spelling mistakes, nitwit.
 
"bubba said...
What is a Tennessee Taliban? "

I don't know either but if JW says so, I guess it must exist. You know he only deals with facts. I wish he would identify them to the authorities so they could be dealt with. Exactly who are they JW, and what proof do you have that they are aligned with the Taliban. Please show us your facts to support these claims.

I find it interesting that such a staunch supporter of the American way as the Coopster shows such a consistent hatred and disdain to over half of the US (you know, those Southern states). Exactly what have those good honest folk done to you JW? They are just trying to get by like all of us. Why are you such an elitist when it comes to them? You sound like a bigot.
 
Oh he is, and of the worst kind - the know-it-all elitist that is always right. The reason he hates Southerners so much is because they still have faith in the free enterprise system, and for this reason are hauling in jobs from the wretched excesses of union bosses, so-called "environmental" groups, and the usual assortment of northern luddites and "smart growth" people. In addition, they commit the cardinal sin of being too religious, teach their kids to respect their elders, say "yes m'am" or Yes, sir", and are also the most patriotic people in the country. Basically, they are WHAT VERMONT USED TO BE!
 
Actually, I left the South to move to VT thinking it was an open accepting place to live (it always used to be). Surprise...surprise. When it comes to tolerance, open-mindedness of opposing views and acceptance, there is no comparison....VT today pales in comparison.

There is something to be said for knowing your values.
 
Sad. Vermont was never like this up until the 80's or so. It used to be the best place in the country to bring up kids. I wouldn't even take young children to Church Street in Burlington, or Brattleboro. The language of the kids now is unbelievable, and because of the liberal permissiveness you never know what you will see. Naked cyclists exposing them selves to children in Burlington a year or so ago really was over the top.
 
I would agree that Vermont is now intolerant of non-politically-correct viewpoints.
 
To find out how intolerant things are go to any forum in Burlington, Middlebury College, UVM, etc. and take the politically incorrect positions; oppose global warming "theories" of Al Gore; talk about "Mom" and "Pop"; talk about how reducing taxes improves the economy; champion the peoples' right to do what they want with their own land; defend Bush and Cheney; try to get a Wal Mart built in your town; try to freeze educators salaries for a year; speak out for one-man-one-vote in the Chittenden Senatorial district; talk about how regulatory problems and high taxes drive people out of Vermont; voice your opinion that drugs are harmful to our youth; suggest tougher penalties for pedophiles; defend our military and in particular the recruiters; and lastly, defend your town putting a Christmas creche in the park; yep, you will DEFINITELY not make any new friends with our Vermont liberals, and you may want to be armed.
 
" . . . while people who don't have no future in the GOP as long as the flat-earth lunatic-fringe continues to support Huck Finnished."

Huh?
 
"Evidently, he'd had enough of shrub/cheney and friendly fascism and reminded them he'd taken an oath to defend the Constitution, not the madness of king george while advising them he didn't goose step and bid farewell to fascism.
If only the GOP and the nitwits who voted for Bush had so much integrity. There'd be a lot more ex-gops and this Country and the world would be a much better place."

Exactly. That's why this Democrat voted for him.
 
"To find out how intolerant things are go to any forum in Burlington, Middlebury College, UVM, etc. and take the politically incorrect positions . . ."

You're not telling us anything we don't already know.
 
Anonymous said...

"I would agree that Vermont is now intolerant of non-politically-correct viewpoints."

Yeah, ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash weeds don't fare well in this climate. That's true of all the red-state rubbish strain.

They're just not hearty enough to cut it in this climate.
 
Amazing - all of this "talk" about "red-state rubbish" by jerks that can hardly wait to send Mom and Pop off to be supported by the sunny south! Try retiring in Maine, fool!
 
"Amazing - all of this "talk" about "red-state rubbish" by jerks that can hardly wait to send Mom and Pop off to be supported by the sunny south! Try retiring in Maine, fool!"

Nah, outside of a few ignorant, ill-informed neo-nazi neanderthals who just can't get the hang of the whole walking upright thing here gumming up the works with their lunatic-fringe delusion that they're the voice of the majority of Vermonters, I like it here.

Ya got bupkis, bubbles.

Now take your red-state rubbish and your factually-challenged, lunatic-fringe fairy tales and tell your story walkin' spinderella.

Your coalition of the clueless services are no longer required.

Try Oklahoma. They think Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs to church. You'll fit right in.
 
Anonymous said...

"...Exactly. That's why this Democrat voted for him."

That's why this Independent voted for him a couple of times. Dems don't vote for gops.
 
Anonymous said...

"Actually, I left the South to move to VT thinking it was an open accepting place to live (it always used to be)."

That doesn't surprise me a bit, Captain Wrong-Way Peach-fuzz. I doubt that was even your biggest mistake that day.

Gee, you poor dear. Life is so hard for you kukluxkrishtin nitwits. Nobody buys your ignorant slop up here.

"There is something to be said for knowing your values."

Yeah, yours don't have any.
 
bubba said...

"To find out how intolerant things are go to any forum in Burlington, Middlebury College, UVM, etc. and take the politically incorrect positions; oppose global warming "theories" of Al Gore;..."

You do realize that McCain believes in Evolution and that Global Warming, don't ya, little fella?

I've got news for ya, spinderella. Educated people just don't buy ignorant bigotry with no basis in fact and as long as that's the extent of your repertoire, it's not gonna change, but if you wanna keep on tryin, I'll keep on laughin'.

It's the least I can do.
 
Apparently a few thousand scientists take issue with Al Bore's theories ON WHAT CAUSES global warming and whether or not it is just a cycle, but then again, how can you argue with a guy who invented the internet.
 
"Apparently a few thousand scientists take issue with Al Bore's theories ON WHAT CAUSES global warming and whether or not it is just a cycle, but then again, how can you argue with a guy who invented the internet."

As opposed to shrub's invention of the even more powerful "internets."

Nice try, bubble boy. Ya best tell it to McCain, little fella. Even he's not buying your ignorant slop.

The only loons singing your song are employed by the likes of Exxon. Even that Dane you clowns were pushing a few months ago has been totally discredited.

Then again, when ya try to pass an economist off as a Climatologist, that's bound to happen.

There is no legitimate scientist who disputes Gore or the legitimacy of the effects of man-made activity on Global Warming and Climate Change.

None. Zip. Nada. Bupkis.

No one, no where is brain-dead and backward enough to buy your flat earth BS.

Your dinosaur dreck has gone the way of the Sun revolving around the Earth and the moon being made of Green Cheese.

Spinderella, while you clearly are the scum of the earth and have no credibility whatsoever on any issue under the Sun, this may be your weakest. If not, it's in a photo finish with ethics, integrity, the economy, national defense and civil rights and all the other subjects one must be totally ignorant of to be a gop in good standing.
 
NO LEGITIMATE SCIENTIST CAN DISPUTE AL GORE? Where did he earn all of those scientific degrees that makes him the world's number one global warming expert? Oh that's right...from the same school that teaches that JFK was ONLY MINUTES AWAY FROM ENDING THE Vietnam War and creating world peace and prosperity when assassinated.

The people of Tennessee DID know little Al best!
 
"Dems don't vote for gops."

Dems did vote for Jeffords.

You say you're an Independent. So shut the hell up with saying what Dems do and do not do.
 
bubba said...

"NO LEGITIMATE SCIENTIST CAN DISPUTE AL GORE? Where did he earn all of those scientific degrees that makes him the world's number one global warming expert?"

Nice try, spinderella.

I didn't say they couldn't. I said they don't. Big difference.

Legitimate Scientists have every right in the World to disagree with Al Gore, little fella. Evidently, they just don't feel the need to exercise that right.

"Oh that's right...from the same school that teaches that JFK was ONLY MINUTES AWAY FROM ENDING THE Vietnam War and creating world peace and prosperity when assassinated."

Nice try, spindy. No sale.

Apart from the fact that even by your standards, that's one pathetic attempt to change the subject when you're losin, just when did I say "JFK was ONLY MINUTES AWAY FROM ENDING THE Vietnam War and creating world peace and prosperity when assassinated.", little fella?

That's what I thought.

Nice try. Let's get back to the topic at hand, little fella. You can dazzle me with all the other topics you're totally ignorant of when you're done demonstrating your ignorance on this one.

"The people of Tennessee DID know little Al best!"

In other words, he lost the Tennessee Taliban/Scopes Monkey Trial/Dumb White Trash Vote who trashed Harold Ford with racist scum ads in '06.

Again, apart from the fact that they're one unholy trinity who don't know anything more about Global Warming than you do, how is that relevant to the matter before us, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Look on the bright side, spinderella. You could star in your own movie just like Gore. You could call it The Bupkis List.

Dismissed.
 
Anonymous said...

"Dems don't vote for gops."

"Dems did vote for Jeffords."

Again, so did I, little fella. By definition, that makes me an Independent even though I vote Dem the vast majority of the time.

Just which part of that continues to give you trouble, little fella?

"You say you're an Independent."

Yeah, I vote for Bernie and the occasional Gop. The other 90 percent of the time I vote Dem. That makes me an Independent. If I was a Dem, I'd vote Dem all the time.

Again, just which part to that in particular and reality in general is givin' you trouble, little fella?
 
Can you cite any racist ads run against Harold Ford in 2006? The reason Ford lost in Tennessee is because Bob Corker was a conservative in a conservative state and also happened to be a popular mayor of Chattanooga. Ford was well liked but carried the baggage of a corrupt bunch of relatives in Memphis, his father, uncle, and aunt, all of which went to jail for corruption. Maybe you should look up some facts sometime instead of memorizing your little MOVEON.ORG playbook, "bright things to say for idiots". Fool.
 
"Yeah, I vote for Bernie and the occasional Gop. The other 90 percent of the time I vote Dem. That makes me an Independent. If I was a Dem, I'd vote Dem all the time."

No, there is no rule that a Dem has to vote Dem every time.

That is retarded and you are retarded.
 
Anonymous said...

"Yeah, I vote for Bernie and the occasional Gop. The other 90 percent of the time I vote Dem. That makes me an Independent. If I was a Dem, I'd vote Dem all the time."

"No, there is no rule that a Dem has to vote Dem every time.

"That is retarded and you are retarded."

Always with the sweet talk, little fella.
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "McCain's visit":

"Can you cite any racist ads run against Harold Ford in 2006?"

Ya mean besides "the Naked White Chick, I met Harold at the Playboy Party" one, little fella? How many Macaca Moments do ya need, nitwit?

"The reason Ford lost in Tennessee is because Bob Corker was a conservative in a conservative state and also happened to be a popular mayor of Chattanooga."

Yeah, a popular mayor who was losin' to a Black Congressman from Memphis until he did what all Clueless Crackers do when they're trailin' a Black Opponent - play the Race Card - as in "Lock up your daughters, wives and sisters! Mandingo's loaded for bear and he's comin' for the White Women!!"

Corker was trailin' when he released that ad before he went on to win.

"Ford was well liked but carried the baggage of a corrupt bunch of relatives in Memphis, his father, uncle, and aunt, all of which went to jail for corruption."

Ya mean like Taft, Ney and much of the Ohio GOP leadership that managed to deliver Ohio for Shrub in '04, little fella?

Nice try, nitwit. Outside of crankin' up the klan vote with threats of Ford and an army of black dudes comin' to kidnap the flower of white southern womanhood from their beds, thereby threatening their southern heritage, traditional values and way of life, did any allegations of corruption stick to Ford, or did Corker's crap just slime him long enough to cost him the election?

That's what I thought.

The former White Citizens Council is now the Conservative Citizens Council. Apart from the name change, they're the same scum they always were. They're more subtle than they used to be, but they still use the klan for muscle and their dirty work as they try to keep Tennessee and the rest of Dixie as White as they can.

They just call it protecting traditional values and the conservative way of life, little fella.

Jesse Helms played the Race Card in '90 when he was trailing his Black Opponent. Corker did the same thing in '06.

Without fanning racist fears or spewing lunatic-fringe fairy tales, gops got bupkis. That's why you don't do so well in this neck of the woods, little fella.

No racists, no reagan. No bigots, no bush. They're gonna keep running the same play until it stops working 'cause they can't win on the merits because they don't have any. They never did. They never will.

Dismissed.
 
Harold Ford was criticized for his expensive living style, which included Playboy parties. (The basis for your "racist" ad claim) Much like Al Gore, Ford spent much of his life OUTSIDE of Tennessee. Tennesseans don't much like politicians that show up and put on the "good old boy" act only when they run for something. You know, like "Brooklyn" Bernie and his pal "Hollywood" Pat.
 
""Ford was well liked but carried the baggage of a corrupt bunch of relatives in Memphis, his father, uncle, and aunt, all of which went to jail for corruption."

Ya mean like Taft, Ney and much of the Ohio GOP leadership that managed to deliver Ohio for Shrub in '04, little fella? "

Why are you changin' the subject from Tennessee to Ohio, little fella?

"The former White Citizens Council is now the Conservative Citizens Council. Apart from the name change, they're the same scum they always were. They're more subtle than they used to be, but they still use the klan for muscle and their dirty work as they try to keep Tennessee and the rest of Dixie as White as they can."

And your proof of this outrageous statement is . . .?

That's what I thought.

"They never did."

Never, eh? Ya mean like when they were the party of abolition and enlightenment, and the Democrats were the party of slavery and rural backwardness? For about a hundred years or so?

Your broad generalizations are stupid, little fella.
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "McCain's visit":

"Harold Ford was criticized for his expensive living style, which included Playboy parties. (The basis for your "racist" ad claim) Much like Al Gore, Ford spent much of his life OUTSIDE of Tennessee. Tennesseans don't much like politicians that show."

Ya mean scum like Strom and trash like Trent, little fella?

Nice try, no sale.

Corker did what all desperate dumb white trash gop politicians do and played the "Lock up the White Women!! Harold Ford and his Band of Black Bucks is on the prowl and he's threatening our Southern Heritage and Traditional Values Card - translation: ignorant bigotry, racism and christo-fascism.

No racists, no reagan.

No bigots, no bush.

No crackers, no corker.

Dismissed.
 
re:Conservative Citizens Council
Check out the Wikipedia article on the same.

As to Republicans being Lincoln's party, that ended with the nineteenth century. Strom Thurmond and his buddies joined the Republicans in protest of integration and civil rights. The Republican south in the twentieth century and forward represents those who opposed civil rights for minorities.
 
Anonymous said...

""Ford was well liked but carried the baggage of a corrupt bunch of relatives in Memphis, his father, uncle, and aunt, all of which went to jail for corruption."

Ya mean like Taft, Ney and much of the Ohio GOP leadership that managed to deliver Ohio for Shrub in '04, little fella?

"Why are you changin' the subject from Tennessee to Ohio, little fella?"

Ya mean besides offering factual rebuttal to bubble boy's latest load of factually-challenged BS, little fella?

"The former White Citizens Council is now the Conservative Citizens Council. Apart from the name change, they're the same scum they always were. They're more subtle than they used to be, but they still use the klan for muscle and their dirty work as they try to keep Tennessee and the rest of Dixie as White as they can."

"And your proof of this outrageous statement is . . .?"

Well, little nameless neo-nazi nitwit fella, for openers, there's this:

White Citizens' Councils aimed to maintain 'Southern way of life'

The White Citizens' Council was born in Greenwood, Miss., shortly after the 1954-55 Brown vs. Board of Education decisions were rendered. Sister branches rapidly surfaced throughout Mississippi and other Southern states.

Leading citizens joined. The goal was to maintain segregation.

Tennessee's relatively ineffective version of the citizens' council was called the Tennessee Federation for Constitutional Government, of which Madison County had a chapter. The group placed advertisements in The Sun in the 1960s in support of segregation. One was an editorial from another newspaper that said, "The Negro today is the best treated human being in the United States."

The Madison chapter also held at least one meeting covered by The Sun. According to the story, a Memphis attorney called for prosecuting Jackson's bus company for integrating its buses and called the 1954 school desegregation by the U.S. Supreme Court "a judicial monstrosity."

At the same meeting, according to the article, District Attorney David P. Murray called on the audience to "help maintain our Southern way of life" and added, "Let's fight for it to the bitter end." According to The Sun's story, 200 people attended the meeting, including a circuit judge, an American Legion commander and the sheriff of Haywood County.

Citizens' councils used economic and political pressure to achieve their ends. The election of Ross Barnett as governor of Mississippi, on the promise of defending the state's traditions - which meant white supremacy - was one display of the council's success.

Below are excerpts from a pamphlet from the Association of Citizens' Councils titled "Why Does Your Community Need a Citizens' Council?":

Maybe your community has had no racial problems! This may be true; however, you may not have a fire, yet you maintain a fire department. You can depend on one thing: The NAACP (National Association for the Agitation of Colored People), aided by alien influences, bloc vote seeking politicians and left-wing do-gooders, will see that you have a problem in the near future.

The Citizens' Council is the South's answer to the mongrelizers. We will not be integrated. We are proud of our white blood and our white heritage of sixty centuries.

... We are certainly not ashamed of our traditions, our conservative beliefs, nor our segregated way of life.

Sources: The Jackson Sun; "History of the Modern Civil Rights Movement;" The Tennessee Encyclopedia of History and Culture.

And then there's this:

Council of Conservative Citizens
CoCC Players
League of the South
LOS Players
Sons of Confederate Veterans
Christian Reconstruction
Reconstructionists
The Pioneer Fund
The Council For National Policy
The Nazi Connection
CAH

Citizens Against Hate
Eye On Hate Reporting Desk

The Shame of the South
Some of the Key Players

Organized hate groups in America and around the world are of genuine concern to a free society such as ours. They not only gnaw at the fabric of humanity they degrade all that is wholesome and decent in a civilized world. Studying these groups they often seem to be only the "fringe" element of our nation considering the small number of members and their inability to unify and present any type of legitimate threat. Yet, the numbers are frequently deceiving because they do not take into account the silent supporters and the tacit agreement that others share with them.

Groups like Aryan Nations and the National Socialist Movement get our attention through their blatant acts of racism and discrimination. They are vocal and visible. It is those who fly below the radar of watch groups and others who report on their outlandish and sometimes violent actions who we really must consider perhaps even more dangerous in the grand scheme of things. These are the groups who operate within the mainstream of American society and who wield awesome power both at the voting booth and in the halls of government.

The neo-Confederate Movement is, to many, considered to be a little daffy and somewhat eccentric. Often the operation is thought of as harmless and benign and something engaged in by those malcontents in the South whom, for whatever reason, never got over losing the Civil War. Nothing could be further from the truth. And nothing could be more dangerous than allowing this Movement to flourish - and believe me, it is doing precisely that.

Like the neo-Nazi's and the whole White Supremacy movement, the neo-Confederates' contingencies are varied with a number of groups making up the whole. Unlike the neo-Nazi's, they appear to be a lot more cohesive in their efforts to present a united front. Vehemently opposed to immigration, homosexuals, inter-race marriages, and integration, membership in these groups spans the United States and boasts about an alarming number of members. Additionally, the movement is spearheaded by individuals of prominence and sometimes wealth.

The neo-Confederates are but the tip of the ice-berg in the grand scheme of this repugnant hard-right morass, however. Behind every "movement" there has to be largesse - and lots of it. As we move through the members and the leaders of this "Southern Swamp" we will attempt to connect the dots. There are connections - and we think we have found some of the money trail.

The premier group among these neo-Confederates is the Council of Conservative Citizens who were largely unnoticed prior to Senator Trent Lott being outed as an honorary member and staunch supporter of the group.

In the 1950's South racism was the norm. In Mississippi it was perpetuated by a group called the "White Citizens Council" and a racist infrastructure that was unparalled and virtually impossible to destroy. Robert "Tut" Patterson was the founder of the White Citizens Council and together with a handful of other small businessmen and shop-owners, as well as Mayors and other white community leades the organization grew to a membership of over 250,000 in and out of Mississippi. The group prided itself on their ability to threaten and harass those who advocated civil rights. The Council was a segregationist organization and they often wielded a heavy hand and quite a bit of power within the communities.

The White Citizens Council was often referred to as the "Uptown Klan" as it appeared that sheets and hoods had been discarded and replaced by suits and ties. The ideology of this group was much like that of the Klan believing that whites were superior and "uppity Negroes" had to be kept in their place. According to the Sisters of Selma website, "Uppity blacks found themselves jobless, black professionals had credit, insurance, or license problems, and all blacks who tried to register to vote were placed on a blacklist."

Eventually, after a long history of intimidation and hate, the Council fell apart only to be resurrected a few years later by some of the previous members. Gordon Lee Baum of St. Louis, Missouri, once a field organizer for the White Citizens Council, pulled a meeting together in Atlanta of some of the former members, including one-time Governor of Georgia, Lester Maddox, and together they formed what is know known as the Council of Conservative Citizens. Not surprisingly, Tut Patterson became a columnist for the "Citizens Informer" newspaper, a CCC publication. That same publication ran a column written by none other than Trent Lott.

Using old mailing lists, the 30+ membership rapidly gained momentum attracting those who agreed on segregation, miscegenation, the Confederate Flag, and immigration. Claiming not to be racist, the organization continued to flourish primarily in the South but later spanning much of the United States as it does still today. Their non-racist claims, however, just don't hold up to scrutiny. The Southern Poverty Law Center, long ago, declared the Council a "Hate Group" and their attempts to appear mainstream conservative have recently fallen by the wayside opting for a much more blatant presentation of their agenda. In the late 1990's, a few politicians got themselves in some real hot water over their affiliations with this group, not the least of which were Bob Barr and Trent Lott.

It has been reported that the organization currently has over 15,000 members across the United States. Of course, the number of supporters and sympathizers is much larger.

On the next page we have listed some of the major figures behind and within the Council for Conservative Citizens. These are leaders of the organization, people who have written articles for the organization, or people who haven addressed the group."

That should keep ya busy for a while, little fella, but if ya get hungry, there's plenty more to sink your pearly whites into, little kukluxkrishtin apologist fella.

Knock yourself out, little fella.

"They never did."

"Never, eh? Ya mean like when they were the party of abolition and enlightenment, and the Democrats were the party of slavery and rural backwardness? For about a hundred years or so?"

Ya mean the 100 years following the Civil War that ended in the mid-60s with the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts which resulted in the Dixiecrat's followed Strom's lead in becoming gops when the GOP said give us your racists, your rednecks, your klansmen yearning to lynch free making the GOP the ignorant white trash sanctuary it is today, little fella?

"Your broad generalizations are incredibly stupid, little fella."

Really? How'd that "40 acres and a mule" promise the gops made the former slaves in 1865 work out, little fella?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...
re:Conservative Citizens Council
Check out the Wikipedia article on the same.

"As to Republicans being Lincoln's party, that ended with the nineteenth century."

Actually, given the fact that Lincoln was reelected on a National Unity Ticket with Andrew Jackson as his VP, it didn't even last as long as Lincoln.

"Strom Thurmond and his buddies joined the Republicans in protest of integration and civil rights. The Republican south in the twentieth century and forward represents those who opposed civil rights for minorities."

It's always nice to hear from the local chapter of the anonymous invisible knights of the kkk, isn't it?

Then again, at least we know where they are.
 
Then there's this:

Huckabee gave speech to white supremacistsMax Blumenthal
Published: Friday January 18, 2008

As South Carolina's Republican primary election draws nearer, Mike Huckabee has ratcheted up his appeals to the racial nationalism of white evangelicals. "You don't like people from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag," the former Arkansas governor told a Myrtle Beach crowd on January 17, referring to the Confederate flag. "If somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we'd tell them what to do with the pole. That's what we'd do."

Making coded appeals to white racism is nothing new for Huckabee. Indeed, well before he was a nationally known political star, Huckabee nurtured a relationship with America's largest white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens. The extent of Huckabee's interaction with the racist group is unclear, but this much is known: he accepted an invitation to speak at the group's annual conference in 1993 and ultimately delivered a videotaped address that was "extremely well received by the audience."

Descended from the White Citizens Councils that battled integration in the Jim Crow South, including at Arkansas' Little Rock High School, the Council (or CofCC) has been designated a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

In its "Statement of Principles," the CofCC declares, "We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called "affirmative action" and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races."

The CofCC has hosted several conservative Republican legislators at its conferences, including former Representative Bob Barr of Georgia and Senator Trent Lott of Mississippi. But mostly it has been a source of embarrassment to Republicans hoping to move their party beyond its race-baiting image. Former Reagan speechwriter and conservative pundit Peggy Noonan pithily declared that anyone involved with the CofCC "does not deserve to be in a leadership position in America."

During a lengthy phone conversation in 2006, CofCC founder and former White Citizens Council organizer Gordon Lee Baum detailed for me Huckabee's dalliances with his group. Baum told me that Huckabee eagerly accepted his invitation to speak at the CofCC's 1993 national convention in Memphis, Tennessee.

Huckabee's plan was complicated, however, when Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker journeyed out of state and appointed a state senator to preside over the governorship. The Arkansas state legislature passed a resolution forbidding the lieutenant governor from leaving Arkansas until Tucker returned, thus preventing Huckabee from attending the CofCC's conference.

In lieu of his appearance, according to Baum, Huckabee "sent an audio/video presentation saying 'I can't be with you but I'd like to be speaker next time.'" (The CofCC promptly replaced Huckabee with Michael Ramirez, a right-wing cartoonist whose work is currently syndicated to 400 newspapers by the Copley News Service.)

Baum's account of Huckabee's videotaped message was confirmed by a CofCC newsletter obtained by Edward Sebesta, a veteran observer of the neo-Confederate movement. "Ark. Lt. Governor Mike Huckabee, unable to leave Arkansas by law because the Governor was absent from the state, sent a terrific videotape speech, which was viewed and extremely well received by the audience," the 1993 newsletter (Vol. 24, No. 3) reported.

The following year, in 1994, the CofCC held its national conference in Little Rock, Arkansas to accommodate Huckabee. According to Baum, Huckabee initially agreed to speak before his group, but became apprehensive when the Arkansas media reported that he would be joined on the CofCC's podium by Kirk Lyons, a white nationalist legal activist who has hailed Hitler as "probably the most misunderstood man in German history."

"He didn't know anything about Kirk Lyons or anyone else," Baum said of Huckabee. "He said he would show up if we took Lyons off."

But Baum refused to remove his friend Lyons from the bill. Huckabee, who was more concerned about receiving bad publicity than by the racist underpinnings of the CofCC, withdrew his promise to speak. The CofCC replaced him this time with former Arkansas Supreme Court Justice Jim Johnson, a White Citizens Council founder who organized the mob that rioted against the integration of Little Rock High School and later served as the star narrator of Rev. Jerry Falwell's discredited film, "The Clinton Chronicles."

In the end, Huckabee's aborted relationship with the CofCC benefited the group. "We had the biggest crowd in our history because of the publicity" surrounding Huckabee's planned appearance, Baum said of his 1994 conference.

The CofCC has since rebuked Huckabee for his insufficiently intolerant political behavior. Unfortunately, Huckabee has never rebuked the CofCC. Instead he embraced the group, ignoring its well known legacy of promoting racism and only severing ties when his political ambitions were threatened by bad publicity.

Cross posted at The Nation and The Huffington Post.
 
After all of this garbage from jw, we find out at the end that it is from "The Nation" and "Huffington Post"! These two pro-communist, hate-America groups are about as credible as a Michael Moore movie, or scribblings from jw. They hate anything to the right of Kucinich and are dedicated to the overthrow of our country. From the trash jw constantly "refers" to as "proof" of anything, I am beginning to understand what keeps him/her/it in such an agitated state of mind.
 
bubba:

Refer you to the Statement of Principles of the Council of Conservative Citizens at their website. Read the first five principles carefully. See for yourself.
 
bubba:

See also principles 6 and 8 of the COCC for more of their beliefs.
 
(6) the traditional family is the basic unit of human society.
(8) we support the expression and celebration of the legitimate sub cultures and ethnic and regional identities of our people.

This is only what Vermont and America represented for nearly 200 years. Too bad it still doesn't.
 
Bubba

You're cherry picking. Don't believe 6 refers to family and surely you can see he racism in the reiterated references to European origins and keeping the country that way.

Refer everyone else reading this to see for themselves as bubba *9surprise*0* is not being intellectually honest in his selections.
 
I would belong to this group long before I would join the ACLU. Another thing....all of those people liberals think are discriminated against seem to find living and working in the south just fine. Makes you wonder why they don't all move to Vermont so they could socialize with all of those flatlander libs that could hardly wait to move to all-white Vermont!
 
Racism is racism.
 
Your opponent called it right. They're racists. Am appalled that anyone can defend their point of view.
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "McCain's visit":

"After all of this garbage from jw, we find out at the end that it is from "The Nation" and "Huffington Post"!"

Gee, now who could've seen this comin'.

Fine: This is from their own website if you prefer your ignorant hate speech straight from the horse's ass, little neo-nazi nitwit, fella. Looks like they can get ya a new Confederate Flag real cheap.

"Who we are!"

"The Council of Conservative Citizens, the no longer silent majority, — is a genuinely active national organization — effectively organizing and winning!

The C of CC was organized by conservative leaders from throughout the nation, who met in Atlanta, Georgia to build an updated organization in which the “silent majority” could participate at the local, state, and national levels.

We’re organizing conservative activists, developing unity, and successfully building a network of chapters and supporters at the grass-roots level nationwide to serve as a responsible, effective voice and active advocate for the no-longer silent conservative majority. This is a unification movement that is desperately needed and long overdue.

Individualistic-minded conservatives have failed to properly organize while the Left (being more collectivist-minded) has developed organization into an “art form.” Most politicians will cater to those blocs that they perceive as being able to help (or hurt) them the most at the ballot box.

However, a purely national group has little local influence — and “all politics is local.” On the other hand, purely local groups with no national or regional structural coordination fractionate our efforts and dissipate our resources. Single issue groups, while performing an important role, are too narrowly focused.

We know that conservatives can rebuild their political power only by beginning at the “grass roots,” unifying our efforts and focusing our resources. Our local groups work at the local level on local issues, and cooperate nationally to bring their power to bear on the important national issues. Others put their faith in Washington lobbyists to accomplish the difficult job of getting the conservative viewpoint before Congress. We rely on the people back home. Others put their faith in political parties to get the conservative message to federal, state, and local officials. We rely on the members of our local chapters to tell officials directly what conservatives want, if necessary at the ballot box, and encouraging sound conservatives to run for office, and volunteers and workers to support the candidates. And it’s working!

We’re winning the attention of politicians and the confidence of voters. After only a short time, the CofCC has had a major effect simply because we recognize that a victory achieved or election won at the local level is far more important than any number of prestigious contests or races lost.

We have winning experience. The Council of Conservative Citizens is unique in another way — it was founded and is staffed by men and women whose political experience comes from every responsible social movement, conservative organization, and effective political party in America. Our founders, officers, and members include conservative academics, expert political organizers, union officers, farmers, businessmen, professionals, and elected officials. Together, we represent the total experience of the conservative movement in America.

We know who we are through our affiliation with the new Conservative Citizens Foundation. The Foundation (which does not advocate or oppose legislation or candidates) conducts in depth surveys and studies of the views, attitudes, and priorities both of conservatives and of the public at large - something no other conservative group is doing. Using information supplied by the non-partisan CCF, the Council educates Americans on and organizes them around the issues they themselves feel to be important, issues that are critical for America.

To win we must build locally, and unify and focus our resources and efforts."

I'm sure you and the bupkis brigade will be very happy with these slimeballs.

They're your kinda folks, little fella.

"White Citizens Councils: Information and Much More from Answers.comThe successor organization to the White Citizens' Council is the "Council of Conservative .... Judge Sebe DaleJR a member of the White Citizens Council? ...
www.answers.com/topic/white-citizens-council

Shocking Statistics
Between 1976-2005, blacks made up 13% of the US population, but committed 59% of felony murders. Overall, blacks are 9 times more likely to commit murder than whites.
Source: US DOJ
More Statistics.
20
Feb Does Balkanization Beckon Anew?
CofCC.org News Team

by Patrick J. Buchanan

When the Great War comes, said old Bismarck, it will come out of “some damn fool thing in the Balkans.”

On June 28, 1914, Gavrilo Princip shot the archduke and heir to the Austrian throne, Franz Ferdinand, in Sarajevo, setting in motion the train of events that led to the first world war.

In the spring 1999, the United States bombed Serbia for 78 days to force its army out of that nation’s cradle province of Kosovo. The Serbs were fighting Albanian separatists of the Kosovo Liberation Army, or KLA. And we had no more right to bomb Belgrade than the Royal Navy would have had to bombard New York in our Civil War.

We bombed Serbia, we were told, to stop the genocide in Kosovo. But there was no genocide. This was propaganda. The United Nations’ final casualty count of Serbs and Albanians in Slobodan Milosevic’s war did not add up to 1 percent of the dead in Mr. Lincoln’s war.


The Obama Riot Factor
By: The Unreconstructed Southerner

Photo Right: Douglas Wilder first “American-American” elected governor of a state.

With the obvious exception of 1968 the American electoral scene has been spared the violence that nations like Pakistan are accustomed to come election time. Even after the turmoil of the 2000 recount the transfer of power ran smoothly and George Bush didn’t face the riots that greeted the election of Nicholas Sarkozy in last year’s French presidential election. In 2008 however the specter of violence has been rearing its ugly head with the candidacy of Barack Obama and the competitive Democratic presidential primary.

The first instance of the specter of violence emerging was raised by Barack Obama himself in a speech to a predominantly black audience at Hampton University on June 5, 2007. In the company of his radical minister, Jeremiah Wright, Obama raised the specter of the 1992 Los Angeles riots multiple times while addressing the disconnect between America and it’s black citizens. Obama apologists, like CNN’s Roland Martin, were quick to dismiss criticism of the speech with the simple point that Obama was only pointing out the feelings among black Americans. What goes unaddressed is the painfully obvious point that conventional wisdom among blacks is that the LA riots were justified by the refusal to convict the officers who arrested Rodney King. While a far cry from Malcom X and Stokley Carmichael it was a chilling moment for those not under the Obama spell.

All seemed to be quiet on the Western Front and the ghoul of quiet riots failed to reappear as until January 3 in Iowa it seemed that Hillary Clinton would squash Obama’s candidacy. In the wake of the racially charged South Carolina primary and the stalemated Democratic nomination contest however former Virginia governor and Richmond mayor Douglas Wilder made a drastic threat on CBS with Bob Schiefer. Wilder proclaimed “If the superdelegates intervene and get in the way of it, and say, `Oh, no, we’re going to determine what’s best,’ there will be chaos at the convention…. And if you think 1968 was bad, you watch: 2008 will be worse.”

This is not Kenya my friends, though with rhetoric like this one wouldn’t know the difference. Between Che Guevera flags and this messianic cult of personality Obama and his supporters are showing as much political civility as the citizens of Paris prior to the Bastille. We are entering a new era in American politics akin to that outlined by Tom Chittum in “Civil War 2.” An era that is seeing ethnic tensions boiling over as a result of our social policies since the 1960’s and the Third World invasion from Latin America. Political disputes are to be settled by the mob and will be a mark of America’s decline unless we stop this thing in its tracks. Whether we can or not is up to every single red blooded American who loves this country and is willing to stop our recession into a dark and ugly future.

Then there's this from Brittanica and Answers.Com

White Citizens Council (American segregation organization)
www.britannica.com/eb/topic-1005018/White-Citizens-Council - 29k

So, ya got a problem with Britannica and Answers.Com now, too, little fella?

There's plenty more if ya need it, little fella. When the facts are on your side, there always is.

That's why you've got bupkis.

Always a pleasure.
 
bubba said...

"I would belong to this group long before I would join the ACLU."

Those facts were never in dispute, bumbles.

"Another thing....all of those people liberals think are discriminated against seem to find living and working in the south just fine. Makes you wonder why they don't all move to Vermont so they could socialize with all of those flatlander libs that could hardly wait to move to all-white Vermont!"

Even by your less-than-lofty standards, that's some weak slop, Spinderella.

Ya got bupkis. White Supremacist Bupkis.
 
bubba said...

"(6) the traditional family is the basic unit of human society.
(8) we support the expression and celebration of the legitimate sub cultures and ethnic and regional identities of our people."

"This is only what Vermont and America represented for nearly 200 years. Too bad it still doesn't."

It doesn't, eh? Just who is threatening the "traditional family" unit, bubble boy, and how, where and when are they doing it?

That's what I thought.

Ya got bupkis. I can set my watch by ya.

Dismissed.
 
What possible similarity could even a moron like jw find between the Nazis and a family-based group of citizens that happen to have Christian values? Being as how Hitler and the Nazis were socialists (DUH - jw, what was their name?) I would say they are diametrically opposed to conservatives, and more aligned with dimocrat-socialists like Bernie Sanders. (Both socialists, both demogogues, both believers in the power of the state, etc.)
 
bubba said...

"What possible similarity could even a moron like jw find between the Nazis and a family-based group of citizens that happen to have Christian values?"

Ya mean besides their long, well-documented, disgusting, disgraceful, clearly-criminal, obviously white-supremacist, neo-nazi, Anti-Semitic, racist, Anti-American Counterfeit-Christian, Fraudulent Family Values history this white-collar klan outfit can't escape along with its rather limited appeal targeted towards the dregs of American Life and the fundamental reality that no one but ignorant, racist, Anti-American scum would ever consider joining it, little Anti-Semitic, Anti-American, racist-scumbag, neo-nazi niwit fella?

Actually, there's millions more reasons but we'll stick with Chapter One for now, little bigot boy.

"Being as how Hitler and the Nazis were socialists (DUH - jw, what was their name?) I would say they are diametrically opposed to conservatives, and more aligned with dimocrat-socialists like Bernie Sanders. (Both socialists, both demogogues, both believers in the power of the state, etc.)"

Nah, more like Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Strom, Rove and Reagan.

Nice try. No sale.

But, given the inescapable fact that you're an ignorant, ill-informed, Anti-American, Racist, Anti-Semitic, bigoted-trash cretin with bupkis to support your continued-existence, I'd be surprised if ya said anything even remotely truthful, little fascist fella.

It only follows that you'd claim such coalition of the clueless crapolla with no basis in fact that can described as Wholly without merit, factually, legally, historically and humanly like the rest of your bigoted trash body of work, little bupkis boy.

Keep diggin' your own Anti-American grave, little bigot boy.

That's entertainment.

If you should stumble, I'll be happy not to break your fall and if you should falter, I'll be happy to give ya a friendly shove in the right direction.

I'd consider it my patriotic duty as an American, little fella.
 
"But, given the inescapable fact that you're an ignorant, ill-informed, Anti-American, Racist, Anti-Semitic, bigoted-trash cretin with bupkis to support your continued-existence, I'd be surprised if ya said anything even remotely truthful, little fascist fella."

Oh, you've sure differentiated yourself from Bubba, little fella.

Lead by example much?
 
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Retardation is no fault of those so afflicted. When you call jw "retarded" it is an extreme insult to the less fortunate among us. jw, on the other hand IS a loser; the ones I have known seem to always gravitate towards far-left causes, perhaps because they so resent those they deem unworthy of what they have, even though it usually is gained thru something jw wouldn't understand, which is HARD WORK and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! This is probably why so many competent youth flee Vermont, why someone who has contributed so much as Rich Tarrant is vilified by these losers, why a career demagogue like Bernie Sanders is reelected, and why bottom-feeders like jw infest Vermont. Seems like their is a direct proportion between the number of Bernie's votes and the increasing wretched state of affairs in third-world Vermont.
 
bubba said...

"Retardation is no fault of those so afflicted. When you call jw "retarded" it is an extreme insult to the less fortunate among us. jw, on the other hand IS a loser; the ones I have known seem to always gravitate towards far-left causes, perhaps because they so resent those they deem unworthy of what they have, even though it usually is gained thru something jw wouldn't understand, which is HARD WORK and PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!"

Well, thank you as always for that factually-challenged, utterly-psychotic, ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist, Anti-American, Aryan Nations take on the issue, spinderella.

We learn so much from you and the other members of the timothy mcveigh wing of the republican party, little bigot boy.

"This is probably why so many competent youth flee Vermont, why someone who has contributed so much as Rich Tarrant is vilified by these losers,...."

So by losers, you mean the vast majority of Vermont Voters who opted not to vote for Mr Tarrant, eh, little bigot boy? Evidently, unlike the rest of the country, you're operating under the assumption that the lowest vote total wins.

Ya might wanna double check that after your little cross burning thing, little fella.

"...why a career demagogue like Bernie Sanders is reelected, and why bottom-feeders like jw infest Vermont."

Little fella, you always say the sweetest, most utterly-psychotic, ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged things.

Actually, it's "while a career demagogue..." little fella.

Moreover, Bernie was elected to the Senate after being perennially reelected to Congress. Since he's a first-term Senator, he won't be reelected until 2012 when President Obama and Vice President Clinton will be reelected for their second term.

You're welcome.

"Seems like their is a direct proportion between the number of Bernie's votes and the increasing wretched state of affairs in third-world Vermont."

"Seems like 'their' is", eh, little fella? So, what you're saying is that you have no factual-basis for this latest in a series of factually-challenged, utterly-psychotic, ignorant-trash remarks of yours any more than you've been able to muster up in the past.

Thanks for clearin' that up, little white-supremacist, bigot boy.

This has been very informative, spinderella. I so enjoy our time together. Nobody spews ignorant psychotic trash like you, little bigot boy. You're in a league of your own.
 
Thank you. Hope to see you at the grand opening of the Barack Hussein Obama pay-day loan center in Montpelier tonight. Try to stay off the Richard's, don't wanna make a scene!
 
bubba said...

"Thank you. Hope to see you at the grand opening of the Barack Hussein Obama pay-day loan center in Montpelier tonight. Try to stay off the Richard's, don't wanna make a scene!"

Nah, I leave that stuff to you and your ignorant, nameless-nitwit white supremacist posse, little fella.
 
hey jw, get deleted much?
 
So many resumes, so little time.

Like I keep tellin' ya, little fella, there's no need for your services at the present time.

If the need arises for nameless nitwits with nothing to say and less to back it up with at some future date, we'll let ya know.

That said, let's see ya do what ya do best, little fella. Namely, see how many times you can call for Shumlin and Symington's impeachment for daring to question the jimi douglas experience's budget figures and commitment to the people of the State of Vermont while calling anyone who disagrees with ya and calls you on your chronic absence of evidence or a factual basis for anything and everything you say a "retard" every 30 seconds, since that's evidently your idea of serious debate, little fella.

I so enjoy our time together, little fella. Given my love of coalition of the clueless comedy and your desire to deal in nothing else, what's not to like.
 
"since that's evidently your idea of serious debate, little fella."

And your idea of serious debate is this?

little fella
nameless nitwits with nothing to say
little fella
little fella
little fella
coalition of the clueless
little nameless nitwit, fella
You coalition of the clueless cretins are regular Siamese Slugs
you're an ignorant, ill-informed, Anti-American, Racist, Anti-Semitic, bigoted-trash cretin with bupkis
little fascist fella
slime
you don't think at all
you clowns
factually-challenged, utterly-psychotic, ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist, Anti-American, Aryan Nations take on the issue
little bigot boy
little bigot boy
little fella
Little fella
utterly-psychotic, ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged
little fella
factually-challenged, utterly-psychotic, ignorant-trash remarks
little white-supremacist, bigot boy
ignorant psychotic trash
little bigot boy
your ignorant, nameless-nitwit white supremacist posse, little fella
 
Anonymous said...

""since that's evidently your idea of serious debate, little fella."

"and your idea of serious debate is this?"

little fella
nameless nitwits with nothing to say
little fella
little fella
little fella
coalition of the clueless...."

No, little fella, that's yet another example of you selectively quoting me in yet another pathetic effort to make this about how I say what I say instead of what I've said because you have no counter to what I've said because, in layman's terms, I've got evidence and you've got bupkis.

In addition, I now have even more evidence of the fact that I've got evidence and you've got bupkis.

Gee, it looks like I'm gonna have to add-on for storage.

Always a pleasure.
 
" . . . yet another pathetic effort to make this about how I say what I say . . ."

Without all the insults and profanities, you don't say much. Try saying whatever it is you wish to say without all the insults and profanities. Then we'll see if you actually have anything to say.
 
Well, little anonymous-nitwit fella, seein' how you anonymously don't say anything at all and have spent the last 3 months proving you have neither the capacity or the inclination to say anything of any value whatsoever, so unless and until you prove any ability or inclination to the contrary, my alleged insults and undying contempt are all you merit and more.

Nice talkin' to ya.
 
" . . . neither the capacity or the inclination . . ."

You mean, neither the capacity "nor" the inclination.

Did I mention that in addition to being nothing but a profane insult-hurler, you can't write, either?
 
Anonymous said...

"Did I mention that in addition to being nothing but a profane insult-hurler, you can't write, either?"

Thanks for that anonymous ignorant trash perspective, little can't do either one nameless-nitwit fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
Ya, this from the guy who kvetches publicly about other people's typos.
 
barreboy said...

Hey, coop, that's the kind of elitist, claim-to-be-smarter-than-you-while-spewing-unthinking-vitriol garbage that just might help get a Republican like John McCain a win here in 2008. Remember, we do have a Republican gov and lt. gov, lest you forget.

In other words, you've got problems with the facts, little fella. Gee, that's a shame.

Get used to it, schmuck. They're about to grow exponentially for ya.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...

"Ya, this from the guy who kvetches publicly about other people's typos."

Nice try, little factually-challenged, nameless-nitwit fella. I merely expose your bupkis. The fact that ya can't spell it is gravy.

Dismissed.

8:34 PM, February 24, 2008
 
" . . . neither the capacity or the inclination . . ."

You mean, neither the capacity "nor" the inclination.

What was that about not being able to spell, little hypocritical ignorant fella?
 
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