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12.17.2008

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Funny how we have billions for the Iraq war. We have billions for CItiBank. We have billions for AIG.

But we don't have enough for healthcare for seniors. Not enough for Meals on Wheels. Not enough for childcare. Not enough for the disabled.

Hmm.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:00 PM, December 17, 2008

Bernard Sanders should be pushing for $$ for these programs not just running his mouth and holding "hearings" to make people believe he's really effective. Same for Welchie and Leaky

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:36 PM, December 17, 2008

Anonymous said...

"Bernard Sanders should be pushing for $$ for these programs not just running his mouth.."

In other words, you're still dumb, you're still scum and ya still got bupkis.

Thanks for clearin' that up, little fella.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 9:21 PM, December 17, 2008

Here's an idea - what about a tax on JWCoopShit's blog posts. Say $1 a post?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:46 PM, December 17, 2008

please just ignore him.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:50 PM, December 17, 2008

That halfwit Coop has been ignored for far too long.

He needs to be dealt with.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:56 PM, December 17, 2008

"Halfwit" is way too generous.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:36 AM, December 18, 2008

Vermont's congressional delegation has been MIA. How about dropping in and letting your constituents know what the F is going on and is a federal stimulus F'ing coming?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:25 AM, December 18, 2008

So much ignorant-anonymous/scum-vote slime, so little time.

Gee, I hate to keep confusin' your sorry butt with the facts, bozo, but our Congressional Delegation can't do much of anything for another 33 days when they finally take the illegitimate trash outta the WH responsible for this mess in the first place, fumigate the joint, and we get an honest, legitimate, intelligent and competent President for the first time in eight years who can go about cleaning up the mess he and the late, unlamented, cluelessly-corrupt, gop-slime Congress made of things with the help of our Congressional Delegation.

Reality. Look into it, little factose-intolerant fella.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:35 PM, December 18, 2008

I sure hope we don't run out of kool-aide.
If the Messiah can't fix it maybe Caroline can!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:46 PM, December 18, 2008

NEK said...

"I sure hope we don't run out of kool-aide.
If the Messiah can't fix it maybe Caroline can!"

Well, nekkie boy, lucky for us, findin' the scum who caused it in the first place and holdin' them accountable for their actions and inactions is a step in the right direction.

If it wasn't' for them, there'd be nothin' in need of fixin' in the first place.

Obama can do it. As for Caroline, it's not like she's a brain-dead member of the bush league.

Unlike them, she's got a brain and she's competent.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 1:04 PM, December 18, 2008

Anonymous

"Halfwit" is way too generous."

It is when applied to nameless nitwit nation, little fella.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 1:23 PM, December 18, 2008

Anonymous said...

"That halfwit Coop has been ignored for far too long.

He needs to be dealt with."

Gee, what are ya gonna do, little all yak and no sack fraudulent fella, get your virtual coworkers and challenge me to another fight or start threatenin' my wife or postin' my name, address and phone while offerin' google map directions to our place every five minutes again?

Are ya talkin' trash and threatenin' me "from work" now, little nameless-nitwit/state worker fella or from the anonymous safety of your mama's basement with your free hand, little fella?

No matter what the Freeps Folks do, I've got a record of everything posted during the 13 months I've been here.

Shoot, even Terri would have a hard time justifyin' and deletin' most of the Summer of '08 from the archives just to make the would safe for ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis to spew their psychotic slop with impunity and make her life easier.

Knock yourself out, nitwit. Save me the trouble.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 1:44 PM, December 18, 2008

Coop - while you are trashing Bush & company- don't forget the architects of the current free fall economy were Barney Frank and Chris Dodds who , with their Dem majority, demanded that Fannie Mae was OK and we should continue to offer sub-prime loans. This was NOT Bush's program- it was the Dems. If you aren't bright enough, or if you insist on ignoring the facts, then just crawl back into your spider hole!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:48 PM, December 18, 2008

While you research the Fannie/Freddie fiasco you might notice that Franklin Raines (originally from the Clinton era) worked as CEO for Fannie Mae and he fraudulently "cooked" the books which allowed him to get a bonus of $100 million plus an annuity of $1 million per year for life. All this by working only SIX years at Fannie Mae. Coop, figure out how many people in Vermont are starving while this DEM lives the live of Riley with Dodds and Franks blessing.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:02 PM, December 18, 2008

I'm liberal and I hate this guy just so you conservative folks don't lump us all into the same category.

NEK - There is no way that two firms Fredie and Fannie are solely responsible for this mess. They are likely a tenth of the problem. the rest of the 90% comes from the Free Market robber barons. Stop making this about party and start making this about failed policies which are all of our elected officials fault.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:28 PM, December 18, 2008

When wingnuts like Coop try to blame the current mess solely on Bush is when I take issue. The CRA was started during Carter times and was voluntary until activists like ACORN made it a requirement in urban areas and forced banks into subprime lending. After Fannie lowered their lending requirements and guaranteed millions of loans that helped create the housing boom just like the dot coms of Clinton times. All these loans were backed by real estate values and not by borrowers credit. Bush loved the business activity and bragged about "everyone owning their own homes". He tried to stop this lending in 2006 when the real estate market started to level off. This is when Dodds and Frank both backed up Fannie/Freddie and told Bush to pound sand. These mortgages were bundled by the millions and sold to AIG,Merrill, Bache, Goldman, Dubai, etc. The greed by all these companies was all compounded but the catalyst was the subprime lending- much more than your 10% estimate.
BTW- it was 3 Democratic appointees who were paid a total of $250 million for less than 7 years employment- Raines, Johnson and Garlick AND 3 Senators received $400,000 in total campaign contributions- Dodd, Obama, Clinton
Name 1 Republican who is even ankle deep in this mess!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:55 PM, December 18, 2008

Your argument is that Bush has had no power in the last 8 years, and the republican congress had no power in the previous 8.

That does not hold water.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:02 PM, December 18, 2008

"No matter what the Freeps Folks do, I've got a record of everything posted during the 13 months I've been here."

Bit paranoid Coop?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:51 PM, December 18, 2008

Facts are Facts Coopy-Fannie Mae was a legalized ponzi scheme just like Madoff- he gets life in jail- Fannie operatives get million dollar annuities-
The Republicans you mention did not get financial rewards, unlike the Dems I listed.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:48 AM, December 19, 2008

Anyone else think Coop is on to a new game. Undoubtedly this poster that claims he knows him (and undoubtedly could pass for his twin) will show up on Coop's porch threatening the great man.

Coop claims someone was threatening him on the blog but a quick scan of the past months shows no threats.

Maybe it's all in his super secret records back at the Coop-Cave.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:05 AM, December 19, 2008

McCain got huge contributions from Fanny and Freddie.

Look it up, Bub.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:08 AM, December 19, 2008

McCain received $21,550 from Fannie/Freddie, Dodds $165,400,Obama $126,349, Kerry $111,000 and Hillary $76,050.- Bub yourselve- look it up!
Please don't get involved in Vermont's budget writing if you think $25k is greater than $126k.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:13 AM, December 19, 2008

McCain received much, much more than that.

Nice try, Bub.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:41 AM, December 19, 2008

Show me the facts!
Don't make statements you can't back up.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:35 AM, December 19, 2008

NEK said...

"Facts are Facts Coopy-Fannie Mae was a legalized ponzi scheme just like Madoff- he gets life in jail-

Well, nekkie boy, if all that's true, then I'm sure the gop-slime injustice system will have no problem convicting the folks running Fannie and Freddie to the wall just as soon as there's gop-scum in the White House.

After all, Fannie and Freddie have only been in existence for the past 70 years or so and it's not like there's been a gop-slime putz in the White House for the past eight years.

"Fannie operatives get million dollar annuities-
The Republicans you mention did not get financial rewards, unlike the Dems I listed."

Then I'm sure you'll have no problem coming up with the evidence to support your clueless-cretin claims, nekkit boy.

I'm shocked.

You "mention" a lot of psychotic slop ya can't substantiate and frequently can't spell, nekkie boy.

Ya got bupkis, nekwit. Ya always do

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:09 PM, December 19, 2008

I have seen the threats aimed at Coop and have complained to the BFP about them. In my opinion threats to an individual and his family and the kind of malicious character assassination written by an anonymous poster are a far more serious offense than the use of vulgarities, though the latter are not pleasant to read.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:50 PM, December 19, 2008

Lou Dobbs just trashed Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper for being UnAmerican.

Evidently, he's the only one who didn't see the idiocy, ignorance and irony in that statement.

Sarah Palin's future son-in-law's mother and fellow hockey mom just got busted on six felony counts for drug possession, distribution and manufacture.

Clearly, by her standards, psycho sarah has not only been palin' around with drug dealin', meth makin' hockey mom's, she's about to make her part of the family.

Ya can't make this stuff up. Not only are bubbakis, nekkie boy and the "finest" minds of nameless nitwit nation incapable of conjuring this slop up, the save me the trouble.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 9:19 PM, December 19, 2008

jw has decided Sarah Palin should bear some kind of guilt because "her future son-in-law's mother" did something illegal. I suppose he then feels Howard Dean should have quit politics years ago when HIS OWN SON was arrested for being the wheel man in a beak-in at the Burlington Country Club? And how about fat Teddy, the "hero" of Chappequidick? How about it, jw?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:40 PM, December 22, 2008

bubba....

"jw has decided Sarah Palin should bear some kind of guilt because "her future son-in-law's mother" did something illegal."

Bubbakis, clearly there's no point you can't miss or fail to comprehend.

Psycho Sarah spent much of the campaign spewin' her bigoted-trash bile while accusing President-Elect Obama of "paling around with terrorists" with respect to his acquaintance with William Ayers despite the fact that Ayers was never convicted of any terrorist activities.

Truth be told, she was the one who was not only hangin' around with hockey meth moms and indicted drug dealers and manufacturers, she was fixin' to add one to the family.

Then again, Wasilla is the acknowledged Meth Lab Mecca of Alaska, but, hey, since when do palin's psychotic scum-vote fans give a fig about the facts.

It's just one more example of her factose-intolerant hypocrisy and fraudulence, bubbakis.

I can see why ya think so highly of her. Fortunately, the majority of the American people don't.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 4:20 PM, December 22, 2008

For the sake of consistency I suppose those that have been spewing hate about Sarah Palin will at least agree that she is far more experienced and capable to run for public office than Caroline Kennedy, who can't even answer a simple question on her own!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:39 AM, December 23, 2008

Anonymous....
"Palin is a moron and a jerk, but the example you cite is not an example of "hypocrisy.""

It's not, eh? Well, if moron and jerk works for you, then more power to ya, little fella.

Given the fact that she spent the bulk of the campaign spewing specious, psychotic slop and claiming Obama was "paling around with terrorists" when no such evidence exists, in view of these recent revelations, I say she's a hypocrite, too.

"Although the accusation against Obama was ridiculous and reprehensible, he is arguably responsible for who he hangs out with."

Sure, assuming he actually "hangs out" with them.

"By contrast, please explain how Palin is responsible for the criminal behavior of her future son-in-law's mother -- someone she is not known to have associated with?"

She's not, eh?

Leaving aside the fact that there's no evidence that Obama ever "paled around with" William Ayers the way psycho sarah, her scum-vote surrogates, fixed-news nitwits and the lunatic-fringe listeners of limbaugh and inshannity falsely claimed he did and that there's no evidence that Obama or his surrogates spent the bulk of the campaign claiming that "Palin hangs out with Hockey Meth-Makin' Moms" providing the clear example of her ignorant, factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest hypocrisy here in the first place, is it your contention that Palin didn't know or know of the Mother of the Father of her Daughter's Baby and her Grandchild?

Certainly, as Governor of Alaska, she's in a position to have them "checked out" if she wants and her history clearly demonstrates that she's not adverse to exercising that sort of clout while charging the State of Alaska $17K/year to live in her own house.

In other words, the taxpayers of Alaska pick up the tab for most if not all of her mortgage payments.

Even doogie isn't shameless enough to do that.

Moreover, Wasilla is only slightly bigger than Montpelier. It's also reputed to be the "Crystal Meth" or "Meth Lab" capital of Alaska, while Montpelier is merely the Capital of Vermont.

Surely, someone hailing from "the patriotic parts of America" with the family values of psycho sarah would know or at least know of Baby Girl's future Mother-in-Law.

Even in Alaska, the average Human Pregnancy lasts nine months. Surely, you're not implying that the queen of family values had better things to do with her time than find out about her fellow Hockey Mom.

What's more, in addition to the palin klan, Wasilla is home to:

Vic Kohring, a Wasilla legislator who was tried in the wide-ranging federal VECO corruption probe, and found guilty of bribery, conspiracy, and attempted extortion; and April Flowers, female porn star and adult model.

Nice folks.

Charles Wohlforth, in a Frommer's travel guidebook on Alaska, described Wasilla as "the worst kind of suburban sprawl of highway-fronting shopping malls and gravel lots."

That just smacks of "Patriotic America" to me. You?

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:27 PM, December 23, 2008

As soon as the election was over Bill Ayers started talking to the press about his association with his friend Barack - apparently he claims to have been much closer to the messiah than the reverse! As for Wasilla, I find it incredulous that an occupant of Montpelier would even BEGIN to talk about degenerates with the likes of jw and the human trash that throw pies at the governor for kicks in their midst, not to mention the booming drug use and crime in the "Capitol" city!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:13 PM, December 23, 2008

bubba....

As soon as the election was over Bill Ayers started talking to the press about his association with his friend Barack - apparently he claims to have been much closer to the messiah than the reverse!"

"Apparently", eh? In other words, bubbakis has got bupkis. I'm shocked.

"As for Wasilla, I find it incredulous that an occupant of Montpelier would even BEGIN to talk about degenerates with the likes of jw and the human trash that throw pies at the governor for kicks in their midst, not to mention the booming drug use and crime in the "Capitol" city!"

In other words, bubbakis has got bupkis.

Well, that's why you're you, bubbakis, and the rest of us aren't. Not even, nekkie boy.

First of all, while I hate to keep confusing ya with the facts, the Manning Kid is from Northfield. I don't know him and he's not related by marriage or birth.

Secondly, you're seriously gonna try to equate "pieing" an incompetent-trash governor at a 4th of July Parade with multiple felony drug possession, manufacture and distribution charges?

Nice try.

I'll take Montpelier against the "Meth Lab" Capital of Alaska any time.

Don't go changin'.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 2:22 PM, December 23, 2008

specious, psychotic slop
psycho
scum-vote
nitwits
lunatic-fringe
ignorant
factually-challenged
fundamentally-dishonest
psycho

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:28 AM, January 02, 2009

Anonymous said...

""Surely, you're not implying that the queen of family values had better things to do with her time than find out about her fellow Hockey Mom.""

"Yeah, idiot. So what's she supposed to do, order her daughter to terminate the prgnancy because she finds out bad things about the baby's father's mother? Order her daughter not to associate with the baby's father because the baby's father's mother is questionable?

You are truly an idiot."

And a Happy New Year to you, too, little factually-challenged fella.

Is it your clueless-cretin contention that Palin's got better things to do with her time than keep tabs on her own daughter while she's out there tellin' everyone else how to raise their kids and what to believe, little fella?

So much for the success of "abstinence-only" education.

Clearly, ignorance begins at home with the palin klan.

Feel free to point out just where and when I said anything about "prgnancy" and abortion, little fella.

Pack a lunch. Pitch a tent. Unfurl your sleepin' bag. Like your arguments. You're not goin' anywhere.

OBTW, the word is spelled "pregnancy", little fella.

You're welcome.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:56 AM, January 02, 2009