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Political notes from Free Press staff writers Terri Hallenbeck, Sam Hemingway and Nancy Remsen

8.29.2008

Alaskan surprise

I was going to ask y'all what you thought of Barack Obama's speech last night, which you should still feel welcome to weigh in on. But now John McCain has pulled an interesting rabbit out of his hat.

He is about to name Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. The New York Times describes her as a Christian conservative who wasn't afraid to criticize her own party. She's been in office just two years.

Have the Republicans done an end-round on Democrats who so passionately wanted Hillary Clinton to be on the ticket?

- Terri Hallenbeck

posted by vt.Buzz | 10:57 AM |

Comments:

Christian Conservative
Governor for 2 years
Has stood up against her party - actually there are many
republicans who haven't the
last couple of years!

This is all about drilling in ANWAR - and frankly about getting more royalties for Alaskans in general!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:08 AM, August 29, 2008

I think it is a great pick. Young, executive, pro life will play big in the mid west and Joe Biden in going to have a really hard time going after her.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:33 AM, August 29, 2008

Sarah Who? Is she a friend of Ted Stevens? That would make a good ad.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:46 AM, August 29, 2008

Perhaps she is just seen as the best person for the job. I’ve done business with many women over the years. Gender was never the issue.

The issue was always the quality of work provided.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:49 AM, August 29, 2008

This is great news! A relative unknown going toe to toe with one the the Senate's most articulate foreign policy experts.

What does this woman bring to the table, other than ANWR drilling rights for Johnny Mc and the boys?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:49 AM, August 29, 2008

Maybe Biden can settle some of her remarks and call them his own during the debate.
Oh yeah, that was 1988.
Better yet, maybe she can give Biden some of her great hair..Biden plugs weren't looking to good in Denver.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:53 AM, August 29, 2008

Michael Palin must be mortified.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:01 PM, August 29, 2008

"That parrot isn't dead, it's merely pining for the fjord."

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:06 PM, August 29, 2008

Just like Anthony Pollina, Sarah Palin managed to lose a bundle of money on a failed dairy processor.

From Wikipedia:

"When the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin objected, citing concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the dairy had just received $600,000 in state money. When Palin learned that only the Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members, she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and Conservation. The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed the decision to close the dairy. The new board approved milk price increases offered by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though milk from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.In the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the assets to pay off its debts but received no bids."

So much for adding business expertise to the GOP ticket.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:10 PM, August 29, 2008

Talk about stealing Democrats' thunder. Beautiful move. Obama is screwed.

One assumes Biden will tone down his criticism of Obama, but then he's kind of a loose cannon. They call Biden "Mr. Plastic" because the people he stands up for most are credit card companies.

Four more years of Bush, here we come.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:21 PM, August 29, 2008

And this compares with a Presidential candidate receiving money and favors from Tony Rezco? And a crack-using pal of terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn? And an acolyte of "Reverend" Wright?

Finally, a breath of fresh air!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:21 PM, August 29, 2008

She's the first beauty queen to run for vice-president since John Edwards.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:26 PM, August 29, 2008

What will they do with her if he should win and become incapacitated or die in office? Or better question what will we do with such an inexperienced individual in office? Don't believe any Hillary Clinton supporters, no matter how angry, will fall for this. The comparison is insulting.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:49 PM, August 29, 2008

Lost my office pool. I had Jim Douglas being nominated, only in drag.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:53 PM, August 29, 2008

"Or better question what will we do with such an inexperienced individual in office," she has more experience than Obama.

Obama was a neighborhood organizer, state sentor and was running for President before he was even elected to the US Senate.

At least Palin was a mayor and chief executive for two years. Obama wasn't even the chief executive of his own home!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:55 PM, August 29, 2008

No actually she doesn't. She has no experience in Washington and none that is comparable. Hillary fans will not be fooled by this ploy.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:03 PM, August 29, 2008

No word from jw yet. He is still receiving his talking points from DailyKos and Moveon.Org. And Belleview.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:16 PM, August 29, 2008

Well, she's under investigation for corruption ... so she'll fit right in with the rest of the GOP elites in Washington.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:24 PM, August 29, 2008

What DC experience does Obama have? He was running for President before he even got to DC.
Plus to help lead American you need some who has executive experience.
What executive experience does Obama/Biden have.......none

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:24 PM, August 29, 2008

McCain's campaign just went from bad to bizarre.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:25 PM, August 29, 2008

McCain must have hit a home run given all the whining and moaning going on in these posts. You'd piss and moan no matter who the choice was.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:32 PM, August 29, 2008

Just like you pissed and moaned about Obama's choice!!

Must be Obama hit a nerve with the Biden choice ... given how much whining the McCain folks did about that!!!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:35 PM, August 29, 2008

Sarah Palin does not believe in evolution! What a right-wing looooooony!

Haha. This is great. A woman who doesn't believe in evolution running with a man old enough to be the missing link!

Bizarre indeed! McCain's attempt to suck up to the far right wing will backfire.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:38 PM, August 29, 2008

She's the most qualified VP pick since Dan Quayle!!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:39 PM, August 29, 2008

I guess all the liberal girly-men feel threatened by a woman who not only is a mother, but a hunter and member of the NRA as well. Maybe the idiot that said she is under investigation can provide us with details.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:49 PM, August 29, 2008

She's under investigation for allegedly using her political clout to fire someone who was in a messy divorce with her sister.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:34 PM, August 29, 2008

It also involves removing the Board
who had the authority to remove the ex-brother-in-law in order to get at him.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:36 PM, August 29, 2008

So much for the Obama has no experience angle. Then again, as Joe Jackson once said, don't you know that it's different for girls.

Gee, just what the world needs - another crooked gop politician.

Evidently, there's a chance Ted Stevens may be preoccupied during campaign season and beyond.

Besides, he's not old enough to make McCain look young.

That leaves only Maurice Minnifield and the Murkowski family.

The Murkowski father and daughter act already take turns appointing each other to serve out the remainder of whatever term of whatever office they happen to be serving in at the time which leaves them in position to pardon each other if need be.

As for Minnifield, his show was canceled 15 years ago and actor Barry Corbin who played Minnifield is currently a different character on a different show which pretty much rules him out.

So, ya can see why McCain chose Palin. Clearly, she's the only gop politician who isn't currently in legal jeopardy and/or saddled with some form of ethical baggage to one degree or another.

Then, of course, McCain is pulling a reverse Dan Quayle in appointing her. Twenty years ago, 41 chose Quayle because he was a young nitwit who Barbara thought looked like Robert Redford in and effort to woo the Women's Vote because bush and the gops figured women will vote for anybody regardless of where they stand on the issues if they think the VP candidate is cute.

Now, 20 years down the road, gops are so enlightened that McCain thinks disappointed and disaffected Hillary supporters will vote for him irrespective of where he stands on the issues because he put a woman on the ticket.

Gops are such an enlightened lot. Clearly, their attitudes on women and minorities have come a long way in 20 years.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:16 PM, August 29, 2008

Anonymous said...

"Perhaps she is just seen as the best person for the job."

Perhaps not, little nameless-nitwit fella.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:23 PM, August 29, 2008

"She's under investigation for allegedly using her political clout to fire someone who was in a messy divorce with her sister."

Actually, it was a state trooper who tasered the child of her sister. Read that again - TASER. So - make up your mind - do the cops who abuse tasers get fired, or don't they?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:59 PM, August 29, 2008

That's a lie and a terrible smear against a hard working state police officer.

This woman and her supporters are old hands at gutter politics.

Same old, same old.

The last thing we need is another 4 years of this.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:01 PM, August 29, 2008

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:31 PM, August 29, 2008

She's as qualified to be VP as Michael Brown was to be director of FEMA.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:32 PM, August 29, 2008

It's hard to imagine Palin taking over the Presidency in the event that McCain dies.

Given McCain's age, this is a big issue.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:51 PM, August 29, 2008

A truly odd pick. This woman is fighting against having polar bears declared a threatened species (probably so she can shoot them herself). If this a demonstration of McCain's judgment, then he needs to get off the crack.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:55 PM, August 29, 2008

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Alaskan surprise":

"A truly odd pick. This woman is fighting against having polar bears declared a threatened species (probably so she can shoot them herself). If this a demonstration of McCain's judgment, then he needs to get off the crack."

Good point. Oy, Gevalt! That's all we need is for clueless mcsame to forget how many crack houses he owns.

Yeah, the world really needs more of these bible-butcherin' boneheads who think Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs to church and can't
trash the place fast and get raptured up fast enough.

Bin laden's gonna look like the sensible one in the room by the time these flat earth gops are done misinterpreting scripture.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 5:12 PM, August 29, 2008

"Bin laden's gonna look like the sensible one in the room by the time these flat earth gops are done misinterpreting scripture."

Pope Coop has spoken

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:11 PM, August 29, 2008

I guess the resident Yid can't stomach the thought of a conservative Christian being our next VP.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:22 PM, August 29, 2008

bubba ...

"I guess the resident Yid can't stomach the thought of a conservative Christian being our next VP."

Ah, so now you've added anti-Semitism to your bag of tricks, bubble boy. Well played.

Say goodnight, greasy.

That's ou

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:16 PM, August 29, 2008

Ray Charles could see you are Bubba Jiffy.

You're the only one stupid enough to think your alter egos are at all believable.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:27 PM, August 29, 2008

This is a tough one to figure. I don't see that any Hillary supporters, even Reagan Democrats who voted for Bill Clinton, are going to vote for McCain because he put a woman on the ticket.

On the other side, I agree with JWCOOP and others that this completely neutralizes the inexperience issue for McCain. Can't criticize Obama for not having experience when you're as old as McCain is and you're putting somebody with even less experience than Obama a heartbeat away.

On the other hand, I also agree with those who note that it totally stole Obama's thunder on the day after his "historic" speech. McCain turned that into a one-cycle story; the entire narrative in the race is now the "young, maverick, Republican unknown woman" who's the VP nominee; it doesn't hurt that she's also very photogenic.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:57 PM, August 29, 2008

"That's a lie and a terrible smear against a hard working state police officer.

This woman and her supporters are old hands at gutter politics."

No, its not a lie. The facts are not in dispute and have been widely reported by the press. Make your mind up - are you for cops abusing Tasers - or not? You can't have it both ways.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26458400/

"Wooten was, however, suspended for 10 days for shooting a moose and using the Taser on his stepson, a suspension that Monegan later reduced to five days."

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:41 PM, August 29, 2008

It's the first time in history that a Republican has ever objected to police brutality.

The Republicans will stoop to anything. Even smearing a cop.

He was fired because the Governor was pissed that he divorced her sister. It's stupid. It's wrong.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:23 PM, August 29, 2008

"Palin had at first denied that her office had a hand in pushing to have the trooper fired, but was forced to retract those denials when taped evidence emerged that a staffer in her office was involved.

"The investigation found that her personal involvement was more extensive than she at first admitted ...

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:30 PM, August 29, 2008

hmmm. where do the racist, misogynist Republicans go? Can't vote for Obama, Can't vote for Palin.........

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:16 AM, August 30, 2008

I can think of no better compliment for Sarah Palin than to be smeared by the likes of jw and his fellow left-wing scum. Imagine! She has never aborted a child, likes to hunt and fish, and is a tax-cutter and opposes the ear-marks that fat cats like Leahy and Sanders like to brag about! And unlike Crazy Howie and his train to nowhere, she opposes the bridge to nowhere supported by a fellow Alaskan! Guess she can think for herself - which guarantees she will be a target of the drooling, left-wing haters.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:14 AM, August 30, 2008

Sarah Palin is a great choice as you can tell by the empty rhetoric displayed on this post.
She has run an administration, balanced budgets as Mayor and Governor and required to make daily decisions. Obama has not and does not have any administrative experience except for the community organizing he did with convict Rezko. Being a Senator only means you make decisions by committee and does not give you the overall experience in management that a Governor gets. This is the reason there are more Governors elected to the Presidency than Senators. Only 3 Senators have ever been elected directly from the Senate to President and the last was JFK. As for age of McCain, there are 21 Senators older than McCain and one old enough to be his father- If McCain is too old- let's get rid of older Senators who make critical decisions.
Palin is no friend of Stevens or ex Governor Murkowski.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:55 AM, August 30, 2008

Anonymous said...

"Ray Charles could see you are Bubba Jiffy.

You're the only one stupid enough to think your alter egos are at all believable."

Ah, so I'm not only pullin' the strings on the Freeps Folks, I'm Bubba Jiffy now, too.

That's it, bubble boy. The jig is up. We're busted. You don't exist without me. This little fella, has cracked the code.

There's just no sneakin' anything past you, little fella.

I'm gonna go out on my porch now, little fella, address the assembled multitudes, clap my hands and watch everyone stand and proclaim, "I am Bubba Jiffycus!, I am Bubba Jiffycus!"

I like to start slow, limber up in the pen, and take it from there before I cut loose and air it out.

I'm gonna need my good stuff to deal with a tough out like you, little nameless-nitwit fella.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:10 AM, August 30, 2008

Sarah Palin has an 80% approval rating in Alaska- compare that with our Senates 12% approval rating!
Alaska has 685,000 population (not counting caribou and polar bears) compared to Delaware's 845,000. Neither Biden or Obama have ever managed a budget representing more than a handful of associates except for their respective campaigns which Obama has done a respectful job.
Palin vetoed over 300 spending bills last year in Alaska.
Who is bringing CHANGE to Washington? NOT OBAMA

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:49 AM, August 30, 2008

What the Democrats forget is that Tim Kaine has been a governor only as long as Palin, and he was one of Obama'a finalists.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:12 AM, August 30, 2008

So much nekwit nonsense, so little time.

NEK...

"Sarah Palin has an 80% approval rating in Alaska- compare that with our Senates 12% approval rating!"

Ya mean the Senate where the Dems currently possess a razor-thin majority and the gops filibuster or threaten to filibuster everything shrub doesn't like, nekwit.

I'm one of the 88 percent who disapproves of the Senate, nekwit. It's got too much ignorant gop trash in it. That will be remedied in November.

"Alaska has 685,000 population (not counting caribou and polar bears) compared to Delaware's 845,000."

Well, by that logic, little fella. Howard Dean is considerably more qualified than Palin.

In addition to a term or two as Lite Gov, Dean served 12 years in the Pavilion

Let's put Howie in the White House for 8 years and let him set about the business of cleaning up the incompetent gop-scum mess shrub and his ignorant-trash base have made of the joint.

He left Vermont in far better shape than he found it and far better shape than it is now, nekwit.

His 50 State Strategy put the Dems back in control of Congress and the majority of the State Houses and State Legislatures from Coast to Coast.

So, by your "logic", Dean's the most qualified. Give him eight years and a competent, cooperative Congress, let him clean up the latest gop-slime disaster the Dems are gonna be forced to clean up and he can get this Country movin' in the right direction again.

Always a pleasure, nekkie boy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 11:59 AM, August 30, 2008

If anyone thought Dean was capable of being POTUS, he would have gotten past Iowa. You Coopy seem to be his lone cheerleader. Dean's head swells every time he gets close to the White House.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:15 PM, August 30, 2008

After Madeleine Kunin destroyed Vermont, it wasn't too hard to "improve" it. However, Dean, like Kunin continued to bring in every far-left flatlander he could find to replace native Vermonters. You don't find many natives in VPIRG, CLF, ACLU, or for that matter judegeships. I recall several years ago when a small business in the NEK tried to get a small job with the state. Dean turned them down, instead giving the job to a lesbian-owned business in New York, because at the time he "was all about diversity"! Yeah, he really "helped" Vermont. Bye the way, what's with the cowboy boots? Is he interviewing for the Village People?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:43 PM, August 30, 2008

Barack Obama selected one of the most qualified people available for the job of vice-president; John McCain picked one of the least qualified. Who really puts country ahead of politics?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:09 PM, August 30, 2008

I noticed that your buddies Michael Moore and Keith Olberman were yucking it up last night on MSNBC, just totally giddy about the possible deaths of hundreds or thousands of Gulf Coast residents while the Republicans were supposed to be having their convention! Hey, who says lefties don't have a sense of humor! Al Franken couldn't have scripted it better!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:12 PM, August 30, 2008

"I noticed that your buddies Michael Moore and Keith Olberman were yucking it up last night on MSNBC, just totally giddy about the possible deaths of hundreds or thousands of Gulf Coast residents while the Republicans were supposed to be having their convention!"

Ya did, eh? I saw that segment. My recollection is a bit different than yours, bubble boy.

Of course, along with my knowledge of history, law and grasp of the facts, my memory is a bit better than yours.

That said, feel free to fail to produce the evidence in support of this along with everything else your ignorant anonymous ass has claimed, little bigot boy.

"Hey, who says lefties don't have a sense of humor! Al Franken couldn't have scripted it better!"

Well given the abject failure of fixed noise's pathetic attempt to provide a wing-nut answer to the Daily Show and the Colbert Report, as well as the self-immolation of dennis miller's moronic career and the dearth of neo-nazi comedians capable of intentional comedy, nobody with a brain.

Then again, you do have billo, flush and inshannity, but, it's my understanding that their comedy is largely unintentional.

So, given those facts, there's really no need for Franken or anyone else to script anything.

Gop-slime jokes are gop-slime jokes and conservative comedy is its own reward.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 2:38 PM, August 30, 2008

"How about Don Young? Ah, ya forgot about him."
Palin is not a friend of Young either Coopster.
"Barack Obama selected one of the most qualified people available for the job of vice-president; John McCain picked one of the least qualified. Who really puts country ahead of politics?" REALLY!
Your opinion only- What has Biden run besides his mouth? Maybe Obama should sit in the back and let Biden run the show because Obama surely isn't qualified.
He can deliver a great message but the content is straight from former far left contenders playbook- Dukakis (won 9 states), Mondale (won 1 state), Carter (after everyone caught on to him won 5 states) and McGovern won only one state. Obama has the same message as these former candidates and that is why he will not win. At best only 10 states.
Obama wants to change- so far the only thing he is changing is his mind!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:24 PM, August 30, 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lrAf_TE-1I

How about we just let people look at the footage and decide for themselves if these boys were being jerks or not?

Bonus:

Michael Moore speaks for the women of America. Sorry Mike your man-boobs don't qualify you to do that.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:42 PM, August 30, 2008

Palin was just on TV. She was asked the name of the President of Georgia. She didn't know.

How is she remotely qualified to be commander in chief ??

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:05 PM, August 30, 2008

Palin was just on TV. She was asked the name of the President of Georgia. She didn't know.

How is she remotely qualified to be commander in chief ??

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:06 PM, August 30, 2008

Anonymous said...

Palin was just on TV. She was asked the name of the President of Georgia. She didn't know.

Well, at least she didn't claim it was Newt Gingrich.

How is she remotely qualified to be commander in chief??

The same way Ann Nicole Smith was qualified to be a millionaire.

She's not.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 9:13 PM, August 30, 2008

Palin’s first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska’s attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.

Also, she acknowledges having gay friends, something Republican politicians rarely acknowledge.

http://clintondems.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-pro-gay-diva-more-to-this-lady-than-just-being-right-wing/

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:36 PM, August 30, 2008

Palin was vetted by McCain but not to Coopy's satisfaction. She is the perfect choice for the ticket and she has more common sense than Biden and Obama together. One of our major issues is energy and she can run circles around Obama on energy. She thinks there is a better way to solve the energy problem then to put more air in your tires.
She doesn't know the President of Georgia- neither does 99.9% of Americans- you dumocrats are really grasping if the only faults you find is this and the so-called trooper-gate.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:33 AM, August 31, 2008

Well, the dims are at least having a big yuck over the impeding disaster about to hit N.O. First we had the likes of Michael Moore and his tool Olberman laughing about Gustav spoiling the Republican convention and now we have ex-DNC head Don Fowler and John Spratt joking about it. As to experience, I would rather have an ex-mayor and governor lead the country than a hack pol whose career seems to be mainly handing out "walking around" money to Chicago ward bosses to "get out" the vote for the "right people".

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:26 AM, August 31, 2008

Obama did deliver a good speech, although he didn't say anything new. His bounce lasted 24 hours, then it was just a dribble, now the ball was swiped by McCain/Palin and Zogby has the good guys up by 2 points.
Coop thinks Palin wants to rid Alaska of Polar Bears just to drill oil. Some people have the head in the sand or up Algore's butt to think we do not need oil for survival. I hear the environmentalists want to give the polar bears voting rights! Caribou and walruses are next! After all, they have more protection and rights then taxpayers.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:45 AM, August 31, 2008

"Well, off the top of my head, there's The Senate Judiciary Committee and The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, nekwit."
Coop, you don't impress me with these Biden credentials- He sits once a week about 20 weeks a year and makes decisions by committee. He controls this committee of 10+/- other senators and double that in aides. whoop-dee-do- this qualifies him to be POTUS! no budget-no energy-no health care-no environmental- Coop give me something better than this!
As for the 10 states that Obama may win: IL,VT,MA,NY,RI,CT,WA,CA,HI and either OR or ME.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:02 PM, August 31, 2008

Palin was mayor of a town of less than 6000 for four yearsin the nineties and has spent 1.5 years as governor of Alaska and all these posters are touting her as ready for the presidency when Howard Dean and Bernie Sanders were scoffed at for their ambitions. Give me a break!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:21 PM, August 31, 2008

Both Howard and Bernie have more experience than she has! Heck, Jim Douglas could run for vp with that criteria!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:29 PM, August 31, 2008

Actually Bubba...

Pain has increased taxes TWICE in her short 20 month term in the Governor's office.

1) She increased taxes to on oil companies

2) She increased the sales tax to build a rec center inc. a hockey rink.

How's that grab you!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:31 PM, August 31, 2008

The next president is likely going to appoint 3 supreme court justices - it would be very scary for this country if McCain-Palin has that power!

Based on that alone, I just do not think that women who supported Hilary will jump over to support McCain.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:33 PM, August 31, 2008

When Dean ran for Pres, it was his ideology that beat him, not his inability to lead. Bernie does not have the same leadership experience as Dean and his way left agenda can only get him elected in VT.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:37 PM, August 31, 2008

The point was experience--of which Palin has very little.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:47 PM, August 31, 2008

NEK
Recall your post two above: you were questioning Joe Biden's experience
(33 years in the Senate) and contrasting it with Palin's so experience was the point. You've now tried to shift the discussion in other directions--something typical of the right side of the aisle.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:49 PM, August 31, 2008

So much nekwit nonsense, so little time.

NEK said...

"When Dean ran for Pres, it was his ideology that beat him, not his inability to lead. Bernie does not have the same leadership experience as Dean and his way left agenda can only get him elected in VT."

In other words, the State your ignorant anonymous ass claims to be from and represent, eh, nekkie boy?

What exactly were Dean and Bernie proved to be wrong about ideologically with respect to Bush in particular and thoroughly corrupt, clueless and incompetent gop scum in general, nekkie boy?

Gee, bupkis. I'm shocked.

Say goodnight, greasy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:08 PM, August 31, 2008

NEK ....

"Well, off the top of my head, there's The Senate Judiciary Committee and The Senate Foreign Relations Committee, nekwit."

"Coop, you don't impress me with these Biden credentials-..."

Yes, nekwit, you've made your disdain for the facts and reality abundantly clear.

Is your ignorant anonymous ass gonna claim the earth is flat and deny the existence of gravity now, too, nekkie boy, or are ya savin' that for later when ya try to tell me that the earth is only six thousand years old and that adam and eve rode dinosaurs to church?

He sits once a week about 20 weeks a year and makes decisions by committee. He controls this committee of 10+/- other senators and double that in aides. whoop-dee-do- this qualifies him to be POTUS!"

Yeah, and when you compare him to the schmuck, he's replacing and the loon he's competing for the job with, he's overqualified.

As for the 10 states that Obama may win:IL,VT,MA,NY,RI,CT,WA,CA,HI and either OR or ME."

"Either OR or Maine", eh?

Your ignorant anonymous ass is tellin' me Obama will not only not win NH, NJ, PA, MT, ND, SD, IA, NM, ID,VA, OH, MI, MN, KS, OK, AR, TX, NC, SC, FL, AL, MS, TN, WV, TX and AZ, to name a few, you're tellin' me that Obama can win either Oregon or Maine, but not both, but even with Biden on the ticket, McCain/Palin is gonna carry Delaware.

You're not only as demented as ya are dim, nekwit, you're officially dumber than bubba and almost as dumb as the nameless-nitwit who keeps insisting that I am bubba and posts my name over and over again.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:53 PM, August 31, 2008

Anonymous said...

"NEK ..You've now tried to shift the discussion in other directions--something typical of the right side of the aisle."

And that's not even the half of it, too! He's so damned bad at it. He's truly the worst of a bad brain-dead, bupkis-bearin' lot.

Dealin' with nek is like playin' hoop and guardin' some slow slug with no left hand tryin' to come out of the right corner.

The rest of the court is wide open, but all you've got to do is get position, plant your feet in front of him and take the charge.

If you can cover an area the size of a frickin' postage stamp, you can cover nekkie boy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 4:07 PM, August 31, 2008

NEK said...

"Palin was vetted by McCain but not to Coopy's satisfaction."

To the contrary, I'm perfectly happy with the "thorough job" they did in vetting her, nekkie boy.

She is the perfect choice for the ticket and she has more common sense than Biden and Obama together. One of our major issues is energy and she can run circles around Obama on energy. She thinks there is a better way to solve the energy problem then to put more air in your tires.

"She doesn't know the President of Georgia- neither does 99.9% of Americans- you dumocrats are really grasping if the only faults you find is this and the so-called trooper-gate."

Nice try, nekwit. If only that 99.9percent of the population weren't running on the incompetent gop-slime ticket as the VP candidate, that wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, crazy AK lady is because clueless mcsame was dumb enough to put her there.

Good luck with your little abbreviated Nuremberg rally and Operation Pretend to Give a Damn, nekkie boy.

You're gonna need it, newit.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 5:04 PM, August 31, 2008

Jiffy you sure put a lot of words into saying nothing

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:37 PM, August 31, 2008

Palin is a hail mary pass that will fall incomplete.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:02 PM, August 31, 2008

Palin is a right wing chritian conservative that raises taxes!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:38 PM, August 31, 2008

Keep being you Jiffy.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:50 PM, August 31, 2008

Coopy- keep drinking the kool-aid
Nobama is a fraud and the polls are beginning to show. "We can change" ain't going to work with an insider with 36 years in the Senate. This is exactly what I said earlier- Sitting Senators do not make good Presidents because they make all their decisions by committee and do not get administrative/executive experience- especially someone with 140 days in the Senate. McCain at least had leadership experience in the military.
People voting in Vermont will support a Marxist but Vermonters will support a conservative.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 5:58 AM, September 01, 2008

Now the dimocrats thru their blog DailyKos are going after Sarah's daughter Bristol with "Proof" that she, not Sarah, gave birth to Trig! Nice people, eh? (One of jw's "sources")Oh yeh, can hardly wait for the liberal defense of Biden's 5 draft "deferments" as a student (same as Cheney). And his eventual rejection for "asthma". What phonies!(There will be no response from jw on this one)

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:54 AM, September 01, 2008

So it's OK for Cheney and not for Biden? No desertion involved, unlike W, either.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:41 AM, September 01, 2008

What desertion do you have proof of, moron? I can just picture one of you pants-wetting, petulant little liberal girlie-men attempting to fly Air Force jets as did W. You might want to state your service record when criticizing W. As for Cheney, I don't like all of those deferments either, but what phonies liberals are for giving Biden (who has bragged about his athletic abilities) a free pass after 8 years of Cheney-bashing!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:57 AM, September 01, 2008

Since he didn't have any appearences for Labor Day, Jim Douglas decided that instead of a ribbon he would cut a few more working people loose.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:13 PM, September 01, 2008

The difference is...

GWB and Cheney deserve all the criticism!

They will go down in history as the worst administration ever - even worse than Jimmy Carter's.

After all, GWB's administration took a robust economy and very significant surplus and was able to singlehandedly destroy the US economy while fighting a war that should never of happened.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:14 PM, September 01, 2008

GWB started his first term with a recession he inherited from Clinton (that's why they call it the Clinton recession!). How does that translate to a "robust" economy? Unemployment was lower than Clinton's up until the dimocrats regained control of Congress. With all of the mistakes made by Bush, he never racked up the record of Carter - 18% interest on home loans, 21% prime, inflation, surrendering the Panama Canal, leaving our hostages in Iran, and cozying up to every dictator on earth! It will take a long time before any President is as bad as was Carter. Oh, and by the way - Bush's ratings, although low, are way ahead of Leahy, Sanders, Welch and company!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:32 PM, September 01, 2008

bubba said...

"Now the dimocrats thru their blog DailyKos are going after Sarah's daughter Bristol with "Proof" that she, not Sarah, gave birth to Trig! Nice people, eh? (One of jw's "sources")Oh yeh, can hardly wait for the liberal defense of Biden's 5 draft "deferments" as a student (same as Cheney). And his eventual rejection for "asthma". What phonies!(There will be no response from jw on this one)"

Well, you're consistent, bubble boy. I'll give your ignorant anonymous, neo-nazi-nitwit ass that much. Clueless, but consistent.

Feel free to produce any and all evidence of Biden being gung ho for the War in Vietnam - just as long as he didn't actually have to potentially jeopardize his future, fight, risk his sorry butt, sober up long enough to catch a plane to Saigon and actually fight in it - like bush, cheney, rove, wolfie, quayle, kristol, buchanan, rove, pearle, scooter, feith, limbaugh, boortz, saxby chambliss and the rest of the chicken-hawk slime squadron that is the bushleague administration and the gop-scum establishment.

Then again, rummy could easily have requested to be reassigned and reinstated to active duty if he really wanted to. There were pilots as old or older than his sorry butt flying missions over Vietnam.

Evidently, like the rest of the tin soldier/chicken-hawk slime brigade, he had other priorities.

Without the POW card he constantly plays, clueless mcsame is a combination of shrub and the dukestir without the confirmed kills. He chose to bomb Vietnam. He supported that unjustified and unjustifiable war just as he supports the one in Iraq.

He chose to put himself in that position. There were at least 58,000 US men and women as good if not better than McCain who didn't have that choice and didn't make it back in one piece - if at all -whether they supported the War in Vietnam or not.

They didn't volunteer. They didn't make it back. They didn't ditch the starter wife in the hospital or marry the beer heiress.

There's better men than McCain who served in Vietnam or the Gulf War or Iraq or Afghanistan and didn't make it back in one piece.

Pat Tillman is exhibit A. He bought bush's act. He drank the kool-aid only to find that it was poisoned and that Bush had lied to him and the Country - just as they lied to his family and the Country about the circumstances of his death and continued to use him until they couldn't hide the truth any longer.

Pat Tillman's Mother, Mary didn't find the truth about her son, Pat's death because of Bush, McCain, the gop-slime machine and the US Military. They did everything they could to continue to use her son, Pat after his death that they did when they used the fact that he walked away from NFL millions and became an Army Ranger and the best Recruiting Poster since Bin Laden got Bush, she found out in spite of them.

Just like the rest of us.

There's Vietnam Vets and Vets of every war since who are better men and women than John McCain - far more worthy and far more qualified to be President than John McCain - who'll be sleeping under bridges tonight because the fraudulent likes of John McCain using them as props as he cuts VA Funding for their services and care and it's not because they got drunk and forgot their seven addresses or where they left whatever kind of car it is that they drive with his Intro to Economics 101 homework one of his caddies did for him.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 1:12 PM, September 01, 2008

bubba said...

"GWB started his first term with a recession he inherited from Clinton (that's why they call it the Clinton recession!).

Really? And just who would "they" be and why the hell are the lyin' their ignorant, anonymous asses off?

Who calls it that, bubble boy, The clueless, corrupt, gop-slime Congressional Majority who'd been gummin' up the works for the past six of Clinton's eight effective, competent years of National Security and Economic Prosperity?

The same clueless, corrupt, incompetent-trash, gop-swine Congressional Majority that enabled shrub to lie us into an unnecessary, unjustified and unjustifiable War in Iraq to cover for the Bush incompetence that led to 9/11 and squander the record budget surplus Clinton had been able to accumulate in spite of the aforementioned gop-slime Congressional Majority after wiping out the Reagan Record Deficit and Debt, the first Bush Record Deficit and Debt before the Second Bush Record Deficit and Debt eclipsed them all as he squandered more blank ink and ran up more red ink while running up the largest Deficit of any President in US History in while running up more debt than his 42 predecessors combined - thereby leaving the US drowning in another corrupt, clueless, incompetent, gop-trash sea of red ink not seen since the gop-scum policies leading to the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and the resulting Great Depression - which, as it happens, resulted from corrupt, clueless, incompetent, gop-slime policies in effect throughout the 1920s - which, as it happens, was the last time corrupt, clueless, incompetent, gop-scum controlled all three branches of the Federal Government for any comparable length of time to the 12 years, 1/95 - 1/07 when corrupt, clueless, incompetent gop-scum controlled both houses of the US Congress and the Supreme Court and the six dark years from 1/01-1/07 when corrupt, clueless, incompetent, gop-trash controlled all three branches of the Federal Government, during which time, the US was subjected to yet another Bush Recession, 9/11, the War in Iraq, Schiavo, Katrina, Dubai Ports, etc, etc, etc, until gop-scum control of Congress was dislodged by the American People when they just couldn't stand any more counterfeit christians, crooks, closeted gays and gop-scum pedophiles in Congress.

"How does that translate to a "robust" economy? Unemployment was lower than Clinton's up until the dimocrats regained control of Congress. With all of the mistakes made by Bush, he never racked up the record of Carter - 18% interest on home loans, 21% prime, inflation, surrendering the Panama Canal, leaving our hostages in Iran, and cozying up to every dictator on earth! It will take a long time before any President is as bad as was Carter"

Unfortunately for the USA, bubble boy, it only took the 1980 Presidential Election to go from bad to worse as high interest rates and high unemployment continued throughout Reagan's first term as Reaganomics proved to be the "voodoo economics" 41 had called it on videotape before denying that he said it.

Anyone, anywhere who's gotten past the first paragraph of the first page of Economics 101 knows that the rampant inflation and stagflation that began under Nixon and continued under Ford, Carter and Reagan didn't wasn't brought under control until Carter appointed Paul Volcker to be the Chairman of the Federal Reserve in 8/79, where, after being reappointed in 1983 by Reagan, he continued until 8/87 when Reagan replaced him with Alan Greenspan, aka, Mr Andrea Mitchell.

Stagflation began under Nixon and continued under Ford in spite of the legendarily lethal WIN Buttons he armed us with.

So, Carter, in an effort to stem runaway inflation, Volcker put the clamps on the money supply. Not surprisingly, making money less available to borrowers led to higher interest rates, higher unemployment and higher inflation that not only continued, but increased during Reagan's first as the economy worsened before stabilizing in 1983.

In fact, inflation peaked at 13.5 percent in 1981 before being reduced to 3.2 percent in 1983 when Reagan, oddly enough, reappointed Volcker for a second 4-year term as Fed Chairman.

So, once again, bubble boy, I hate to confuse your ignorant, knuckle-draggin', neo-nazi-nitwit, anonymous ass with the facts, but, as previously noted, inflation peaked in 1981 when Reagan was President before being reduced to 3.2 percent in 1983 when Volcker was reappointed by Reagan.

Therefore, once again, the man and the policies that ended the stagflation of the 1970s and the US Economic Recovery of the 1980s was Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve and the US President who appointed him in August of 1979 - more than 16 months before Reagan took office was Jimmy Carter.

In fact, Carter appointed Volcker at great personal and political cost to himself.

As tough as it made conditions in the short term, it was the only way to beat stagflation and put the economy back on solid footing in the long run, so, once again, bubble boy, the only thing you've managed to establish here is that you're ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis and ya don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Alas, those facts were never in dispute. I never doubted you for a second, schmuck.

"Oh, and by the way - Bush's ratings, although low, are way ahead of Leahy, Sanders, Welch and company!"

They are, eh? Then by all means, bubble boy, feel free to produce the ratings for Leahy, Sanders and Welch in comparison to Bush and let's have a look at 'em.

Gee, I'm shocked.

You're dumb, you're scum and ya got bupkis, bubble boy.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 2:46 PM, September 01, 2008

Anonymous said...

"OK Jif-Jiff. Time to make the usual abusive post asking for proof."

Nah, your bounty of bupkis is inevitable, little fella. I set my watch to it.

Your ignorant anonymous ass has never been able to furnish it before, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/ignorant, anonymous trash with bupkis fella.

Given those facts and your ignorant-trash track record, there's no reason to expect ya to produce any in the future any more than you've coughed anything up this time, little fella.

You're clueless, but you're consistent.

Stay cold, phony boy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:00 PM, September 01, 2008

Hey Bubba...

Hate to clue you in, but...
Here in Vt, Leahy, Sanders and Welch enjoy a much greater support from Vermonters than Bush ever did or will.

Oh and by the way, the only people who call it teh Clinton recession are republicans - not economists in general.

I don't have the info in front of me; but, I bet you that 8 yrs of Clinton produced more jobs than 8 yrs of Bush.

And GWB not only took us into a war using lies - but he now has the blood of over 4000 soldiers on his hands.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:44 PM, September 01, 2008

The difference is they were defending our country!

GWB and Cheney attacked a country that had not attacked us.

In fact, Al Queda was not even a factor in Iraq until after we attacked.

If Bush had stayed true in Afghanistan, he would have had most Americans support - yes both liberal and conservative!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:16 PM, September 01, 2008

Oh that's right, excuse me - I had almost forgotten about Germany's attack on our merchant marine ships carrying arms to England (Lend-Lease) or North Korea's attack on New Hampshire and Red China's attack on Wyoming, not to mention Vietnam's sneak attack on Arkansas and Cambodia's onslaught against Montana.And of course, the terrible bombing of Delaware by the Bosnians.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:58 PM, September 01, 2008

Anonymous said...

"Hey Bubba...

Hate to clue you in, but...
Here in Vt, Leahy, Sanders and Welch enjoy a much greater support from Vermonters than Bush ever did or will."

Well, that only stands to reason. Unlike shrub, the doogie/dubie debacle, the late, unlamented, cluelessly-corrupt and corruptly-clueless gop-slime Congress in DC and legislature here in VT, they're competent.

"Oh and by the way, the only people who call it teh Clinton recession are republicans - not economists in general."

Ignorant anonymous-trash gops.

"I don't have the info in front of me; but, I bet you that 8 yrs of Clinton produced more jobs than 8 yrs of Bush."

See if he's dumb enough to give ya odds and take the money and run.

Actually, I'll take a piece of that action, too, bubble boy.

"And GWB not only took us into a war using lies - but he now has the blood of over 4000 soldiers on his hands."

Actually, it's at least 50K US Troops killed or maimed for shrub incompetence and shrub lies and probably closer to 70K once ya factor in the PTSD, record suicides and attempted suicides, not that bubba or any other chicken-hawk gop-slime slug give a damn about them.

Nobody cares less about the USA, the State of Vermont or the US Military than the lunatic-fringe, incompetent-trash likes of bush/cheney, mccain or their supporter.

Gop-scum controlled all three branches of the Federal Government when they lied us into Iraq and allowed Building 18 at Walter Reed. McCain voted against the updated GI Bill that created the middle class in this Country when it let enabled returning Vets like my old man to go to College after WWII and he won't fully fund the Vets he allegedly gives a damn about.

It's no wonder that Obama enjoys greater support than McCain amongst the Military than McCain.

They're tired of being used, trashed and forgotten by gop-scum the way Pat Tillman was.

Can ya blame 'em?

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 7:08 PM, September 01, 2008

Ya gotta love the personal responsibility people.

Bristol Palin is 17 and pregnant. Where's the father? What's his take on this business and just who and where is he?

Ten bucks says they were co-captains of the varsity abstinence-only team.

So much for the Tanana Taliban and their spare the rod approach.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 11:22 PM, September 01, 2008

The father is going to marry the girl. Apparently both sets of parents are going to do all they can to be suportive.

It's called family values. Sorry you never learned what that means JW.

I hust hope you don't have any kids with your attitude.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:03 AM, September 02, 2008

JW, moveon.org, huffington post and daily kos are just beside themselves. They can't stand a female with the qualifications of Sarah Palin. Women aren't suppose to have more than one kid-you are suppose to abort/kill the rest- because she puts human life ahead of polar bears she must be a sicko- she has sense enough to know you can drill without harming the environment- the wackos think we still use 1940 technology to drill without regard for the environment. They think the only way for Sarah Palin to break the "glass ceiling" is to shoot her way out! Women aren't suppose to fly float planes, play basketball, hunt, ride snowmachines, fish AND cook AND raise 5 children AND be able to negotiate with Exxon or BP CEO's.
Sarah Palin is real- Obama is the fraud!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:40 AM, September 02, 2008

Have another Wild Irish Rose and relax.

1.) you know nothing about what the facts are but you are feeling free to attack them and 2.) while we all know the Daily Kos encourages this hatred, your main man B.O. has even had the common sense to say family issues are off-limits.

Again you prove you are the lowest life form in VT. Get lost you cretin.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:46 AM, September 02, 2008

How come B.O. attended the DailyKos convention this year? Like his close association with Wright, Rezko, Ayers and Dohrn, he will leach onto anyone or anything if it means MONEY, even these scumbags!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:14 AM, September 02, 2008

B.O. was not alone...Hillary was there pandering also.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:43 AM, September 02, 2008

Let's MOVEON.NUTS!!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:10 AM, September 02, 2008

I have nothing against this child getting pregnant, Stuff happens. I do, though, take offense to her mother getting up on her bully pulpit and preaching abstinence when she can't even drive the message home to her daughter. And don't get me started on leaving her baby with Downs to pursue this pipe dream. That's responsible parenting to the GOP? So many flaws.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:51 AM, September 02, 2008

You are sadly mistaken if you think she is leaving her baby to campaign. She indicated she was nursing- does she leave that chore for her husband?
You just cannot except the fact that she is authentic!
So many flaws...and excuses.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:29 PM, September 02, 2008

NEK has left a new comment on the post "Alaskan surprise":

"JW, moveon.org, huffington post and daily kos are just beside themselves."

"They can't stand a female with the qualifications of Sarah Palin."

Yeah, clearly, Lieberman, Lindsay Graham, Wall Street, mittwit romney and the business community wing of the gop-slime society are thrilled with McCain picking Palin.

Then again, when ya sell your soul to the Tennessee Taliban to win an election, that's bound to happen.

Just what exactly is Palin qualified to be, nekwit, the seventh caller in a radio call-in contest?

Clearly, her daughter's every bit as qualified to be the poster girl for Abstinence-Only Sex Education as her Mother is to be VP.

She thinks the Founding Fathers wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, for Christ sake!

Just in case it's news to you, too, that they didn't, nekkie boy, it was in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a Baptist Preacher and Christian Socialist, and it didn't contain under God until 1954.

My grandparents, my parents and all my aunts and uncles grew up reciting the pledge without the words under God, nekwit. So did everyone else who completed school before 1954.

That, of course, means everyone who served in WWI, WWII and the Korean War whether they made it back or not.

Is your ignorant anonymous ass gonna tell me they were all Godless Commies now, too, nekwit?

Look it up. Learn something.

"Women aren't suppose to have more than one kid-you are suppose to abort/kill the rest- because she puts human life ahead of polar bears she must be a sicko- she has sense enough to know you can drill without harming the environment- the wackos think we still use 1940 technology to drill without regard for the environment."

Gee, I hate to keep confusin' ya with the facts, nekkie boy, but my wife and I have two kids.

What's more, I'm certain the likes of Exxon and/or BP will be able to drill or navigate tricky currents and shallow waters without regard for the environment with the technology of the future as negligently as they are today.

Yeah, and she's a lifetime member of the nra, too, so she can shoot an old man in the face with either hand from anywhere at anytime.

"They think the only way for Sarah Palin to break the "glass ceiling" is to shoot her way out!"

She's got ya covered, nekkie boy. So to speak.

Women aren't suppose to fly float planes, play basketball, hunt, ride snowmachines, fish AND cook AND raise 5 children AND be able to negotiate with Exxon or BP CEO's."

Oy, Nekkie boy, promise me you're not gonna go into your Helen Reddy routine and start singin' "I am woman, hear me roar!!". It's a little early in Wasilla for that kind of lunacy.

Negotiate, eh? That's a good one, nekkie boy.

Ya gonna pull a steve doocy and tell me Alaska's proximity to Russia makes her an expert on foreign policy?

Does Russia's relative proximity to the North Pole make her a close personal friend and trusted advisor of Santa Claus, too, nekwit?

I'm sure she's a lovely woman who's as qualified to live in a Wichita mobile home park as a Wasila mobile home park, little fella.

There's millions of people who meet those qualifications. They're not qualified to be VP, either.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:42 PM, September 02, 2008

Obama has already allowed himself to get dragged into a debate on who is more experienced, him or Palin. He took the bait.

McCain didn't pick Palin for Palin. He knew damn well that picking a 2-year Governor would lead to a debate about "experience", and he would be able to rope Obama in on that debate. He wanted to pull Obama off the mountain and make people really think about the "experience" thing, something the Obama campaign should not relish.

Check out Drudge, check out Slate, check out many other sites. The debate McCain wanted has now begun. McCain saying "she's more experienced than Obama", and Obama TAKING THE BAIT, is what this is all about. Doesn't matter who wins in a is-Obama-or-Palin-more-experienced debate. Any debate on experience will eventually become a negative for Obama when compared to McCain.

Never imagined he would fall for this trick. HE TOOK THE BAIT. It was a clever way for McCain to sneak the "experience" issue back into the national debate, and Obama swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:45 PM, September 02, 2008

Obama is so naive.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:53 PM, September 02, 2008

Obama has been a community activist (pass out bribes), voted "present" 130 times in the state legislature, and a do-nothing first-term senator. Palin has at least been a mayor and governor. She is only running for vice-president but jw thinks she is less qualified than Obama WHO IS RUNNING for president! Someday I would like to hear some of Obama's qualifications for ANYTHING!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:01 PM, September 02, 2008

Obama has been conning people out of money for 18 months- he is good at something!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:11 PM, September 02, 2008

"McCain didn't pick Palin for Palin. He knew damn well that picking a 2-year Governor would lead to a debate about "experience", and he would be able to rope Obama in on that debate."

Well, that's your hope, but it's not going to play like that. Biden will show just how little experience and knowledge Palin actually does have. She'll come across as a mayor of a 9000 person town. At the same time, Obama will be able to go head to head with McCain in any debate. McCain will be on the defense trying to explain his record.

Secondly, the choice of Palin shows that experience is non-issue. McCain can't cite experience as important when he chooses a person who has little. If he did consider experience to be important, he would have chosen a Biden type or a governor with a long history leading a state that has many more people and a much larger budget.

Unfortunately, the Palin pick is a gimmick and shows that McCain will do anything to win regardless of the impact his choices have on the US.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:41 PM, September 02, 2008

The left continues to criticize a V.P. selection for lack of experience and at the same time laud a presidential candidate with even LESS meaningful experience! Go figure!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:47 PM, September 02, 2008

The left continues to criticize a V.P. selection for lack of experience and at the same time laud a presidential candidate with even LESS meaningful experience! Go figure!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:47 PM, September 02, 2008

meaningful? You mean meaningful to you.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:10 PM, September 02, 2008

no, he means meaningful. BO's career consisted of chasing one office after another. He avoided all meaningful votes in the IL senate by casting over 100 'Present' votes. He was in the US Senate for less than a year before starting to campaign for President. He was chairman of a European foreign policy subcommittee as a Senator but never held a meeting.

I think Bubba go it right when he said 'even less meaningful'. At least Palin has the spine to tackle difficult issues head-on. From BO's perspective the tough issues are above his pay grade.

He is the most left wing Senator in Washington and willing to pander to the likes of the Daily Kos just to get a vote. He doesn;t bring change. He is just another Chicago politician.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:19 PM, September 02, 2008

McCain's plan is simple, and it is working perfectly so far: every time the Obama campaign criticizes Palin's experience of lack thereof, McCain will say - HIMSELF, not through surrogates - that Palin has more executive experience than Obama. Obama will have no choice but to disagree. And that opens up, again, the question of Obama's experience. Obama ends up debating HIS credentials vs. Palin's credentials . . . and folks at home say "gee, neither of these folks have much experience, do they?"

From a campaign/political viewpoint, this was a stroke of genius. The political equivalent of a boxer's rope-a-dope. Make your opponent come in for a shot at a perceived weakness, then hit them with the big hook they were not expecting.

For the previous poster, "experience" for a VP nominee is not relevant. Was not relevant for Quayle/Bentsen, was not relevant for Bush/Ferraro, and will not be relevant now. VP picks mean nothing. At the end of the day it will come down to the people at the top of the ticket, Obama and McCain. And by taking the bait and hitting Palin on lack of experience, Obama has left his most vulnerable flank open to attack.

Dumb. This is politics 101 . . .

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:27 PM, September 02, 2008

bubba said...

"Obama has been a community activist (pass out bribes),..."

Evidence? Of course not.

"..voted "present" 130 times in the state legislature, and a do-nothing first-term senator."

That's not what gop Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana says, bubble boy. Ya better get your gop-slime, ignorant-trash talking points together, little fella.

"..Palin has at least been a mayor and governor."

Yeah, 20 months and she's already under investigation.

Gee, another crooked gop-slime Alaska politician. What are the odds.

The only thing she's done is change the name from Stevens, Murkowski and Young to Palin

"She is only running for vice-president but jw thinks she is less qualified than Obama WHO IS RUNNING for president!"

I do, eh? Oy Gevalt, what a farcockteh, meshuggah, goyishe kop, schmuck.

Nah, that's too limiting, bubble boy. She may actually be less qualified to be VP than your ignorant anonymous ass.

It's gonna take more than repetition and exclamation points to get this trash off the ground, schmuck.

"Someday I would like to hear some of Obama's qualifications for ANYTHING!"

All in good time, bubble boy.

You and nameless-nitwit nation will have the next eight years to bonehead up on Obama's CV, little fella, as he and the Dem Congress set about cleaning up the clueless-cretin wreckage of the brain-dead bushleague reign of error.

Good thing he's a young man. Given the mess this cluelessly-corrupt, incompetent, gop-slime disaster of a President has left in his wake, they may have to repeal the 22nd amendment and give him 4 or 5 terms to right the ship and get us movin' in the right direction again.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:28 PM, September 02, 2008

McCain better come up with a better plan than that. Your scenario won't happen because in order to make that argument, he has to say that executive experience is more important than legislative experience. By using Palin to trump Obama, McCain will also have to accept that Palin has more executive experience than himself. That makes himself look weak. No presidential cadidate wants to cast the vice presidential candidate as the more appropriate presidential candidate. The result is that he ends up on par with Obama in terms of executive experience. His seniority in congress isn't signifcant because being a senator longer doesn't equate to more is better. Besides, it's by Biden's. Add to that, the discussion of why McCain chose an inexperienced VP. So it's a wash.

The choice of Palin rendered the experience conversation a non-issue.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:30 PM, September 02, 2008

typo- "Besides, it's offset by Biden's."

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Anonymous | 3:31 PM, September 02, 2008

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# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:35 PM, September 02, 2008

I would prefer OJT at the VP level rather than POTUS level!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:48 PM, September 02, 2008

Kudos to McCain for being brave enough to do what Barack can only say he would like to do....bring change by bringing in outsiders....smart, driven people with no ties to the doings within the beltway.

Once again...McCain proves he is the real deal and walks the talk.

B.O. is nothing but words and an empty suit. He says nothing that the Dems haven't been saying for the last 20 years.

He isn't change. He is the product of a marketing campaign.

Remember how successful marketing campaigns made the Pet Rock? I give you Barack Obama.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:21 PM, September 02, 2008

Palin is such a breath of fresh air to republicans... Let's look at her record!

On Fiscal Responsibility -- John McCain opposes earmarks and "pork spending" from congress. Mayor Palin asked for and rec'd nearly $27 million in federal earmarks - not bad for a small town of almost 7000 people.

And, when she was elected governor, she left her poor town with $19 million of long term debt.

On tax-cutting - as Governor she led the fight to increase taxes on oil companies. And also pushed an increased sales tax to pay for a rec center which included a hockey rink for this "hockey mom"!

On the environment - Governor Palin is an ardent supporter of drilling for oil in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge.

And she says that golbal warming is not real.

On ethics - as mayor in 2003, Palin became the director of the Ted Stevens - Excellence in Public Service, Inc.,which was a front for a 527 group that could raise unlimited funds from corporate donors. So much for fighting special interests.

By the way, GOP Sen Ted Stevens of Alaska has been indicted for concealing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gifts and services from a company in his home state.

Gov Palin is breath of fresh air all right, she has been breathing the same air that GOP Washington insiders have been brreathing for years.

She would fit right in if elected.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:59 PM, September 02, 2008

Why was McCain staring at her ass all during her speech? What a creep.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 5:16 PM, September 02, 2008

Why was Barack staring at Biden's ass? What a creep!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:12 PM, September 02, 2008

Anonymous...

McCain's plan is simple, and it is working perfectly so far: every time the Obama campaign criticizes Palin's experience of lack thereof, McCain will say - HIMSELF, not through surrogates - that Palin has more executive experience than Obama."

And once they've stopped convulsing with laughter, the American People will gather as one to watch his nose grow longer with each lie that passes from his lips, little nameless-nitwit fella.

"Obama will have no choice but to disagree. And that opens up, again, the question of Obama's experience. Obama ends up debating HIS credentials vs. Palin's credentials . . . and folks at home say "gee, neither of these folks have much experience, do they?"

Only if they're the folks from the group home responsible for your ignorant anonymous ass, little fella.

Say goodnight, greasy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 10:34 PM, September 02, 2008

Hey Poopy - hate to break it to you, but McCain will start running ads today in swing states DIRECTLY comparing Palin's executive experience with Obama's. McCain is trying - with great success so far - to drag Camp Obama into a debate about "experience", and it is working like a charm.

Think about it Poopy. Right now a national debate is beginning comparing the experience of the GOP's #2 with the Dem's #1. Unbelievable! That is a very effective way of making people take a second look at Obama's resume and track record.

Obama took the bait. I will say it again Poopy - McCain didn't pick Palin for Palin, he picked her in a rope-a-dope strategy to drag Obama into a debate about "what is experience". And Obama foolishly took the bait.

Rookie mistake, but a big one.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:34 AM, September 03, 2008

It's a mistake on McCain's behalf. The choice for Palin demonstrates McCain's decision making process. Simply ask McCain "Why didn't you choose a person with more experience?"

When faced with an important decision, Obama chose to add experience. McCain, however, chose not to add experience. Why?

It's obviously, not "Country First".

The more we hear from McCain, the more evidence that he doesn't walk his talk.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:44 AM, September 03, 2008

You boneheads are missing the point. McCain chose someone inexperienced so that he could jumpstart a debate on experience and hit Obama over the head with it. Palin was just the bait.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:55 AM, September 03, 2008

Anon 10:44 "When faced with an important decision, Obama chose to add experience. McCain, however, chose not to add experience. Why?"

Obama had to add experience because he himself has NONE. McCain wanted someone with executive experience and what little Palin has, it far exceeds what Obama/Biden have.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:10 AM, September 03, 2008

Palin has a college degree from a no-name university, several years as the mayor of a backwater town, and 18 months as the governor of Alaska. She’s inexperienced by all of the Right Wing commentators who have been attacking Obama’s experience. Although Obama is accomplished academically, has worked extensively at the community level (where most of us live), and has 12 years of legislative experience. That these same commentators hold Palin up as qualified is a joke. It shows that Republicans want people who agree with them on guns and abortion MUCH more than they want someone with a complete and articulated vision for the entirety of the American experience.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:15 AM, September 03, 2008

"Obama had to add experience because he himself has NONE. McCain wanted someone with executive experience and what little Palin has, it far exceeds what Obama/Biden have."

If McCain wanted to add executive experience, why not Pawlenty? Why not Ridge? Even Gulliani has more executive experience than Palin. Geeze, there's more people, more money, and more executive issues in NYC than in all of Alaska.

Obama made a choice to add experience to his ticket. McCain chose a gimmick.

When it counted, McCain chose a gimmick. That by itself, tells he's not qualified.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:23 AM, September 03, 2008

NEK...

"Obama had to add experience because he himself has NONE. McCain wanted someone with executive experience and what little Palin has, it far exceeds what Obama/Biden have."

Sure, Twenty months experience as another clueless, corrupt, incompetent, gop-slime Alaska politician who's already under investigation for improper conduct and abuse of power in her capacity as Governor of Alaska.

We've seen enough of that sort of "experience" with six years of the jimi douglas experience's cluelessness and incompetence, nekkie boy.

Her 17 year-old daughter's pregnancy is an issue because her mother made it one in her capacity as Governor of Alaska, incompetent-trash, gop-slime VP selection and lunatic-fringe Champion for Abstinence-Only Sex Education and other psychotic slop notions of the Tennessee Taliban base of the gops.

Sarah Palin has only the lunatic residing in her mirror to blame for her 17-year old, pregnant daughter's loss of privacy.

Without her, nobody would give a damn, and rightfully so.

Stay cold, phony boy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:11 PM, September 03, 2008

"Her 17 year-old daughter's pregnancy is an issue because her mother made it one in her capacity as Governor of Alaska, incompetent-trash, gop-slime VP selection and lunatic-fringe Champion for Abstinence-Only Sex Education and other psychotic slop notions of the Tennessee Taliban base of the gops."

So JW you got married at 18. Am I correct in assuming that when you were 17 you got a little careless with the coop-goop and knocked up Mo?

Kettle, Pot. Pot, Kettle.

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Anonymous | 9:17 PM, September 03, 2008

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Alaskan surprise":

"Her 17 year-old daughter's pregnancy is an issue because her mother made it one in her capacity as Governor of Alaska, incompetent-trash, gop-slime VP selection and lunatic-fringe Champion for Abstinence-Only Sex Education and other psychotic slop notions of the Tennessee Taliban base of the gops."

"So JW you got married at 18. Am I correct in assuming that when you were 17 you got a little careless with the coop-goop and knocked up Mo?"

No, your ignorant anonymous ass would be wrong about that to keeping your streak intact.

Congrats, little fella. You remain dumb, you remain scum and your ignorant anonymous ass continues to have bupkis.

You're gonna have to keep pawin' through our trash cans in the desperate hope that you'll come up with something.

Keep diggin, little fella.

That's entertainment.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 9:36 PM, September 03, 2008

Ah Jiffy.

You forget. You're a born loser. The rest of us are just trying to play catch up as you go deeper and deeper into the sewer that is your useless life.

Sleep well chowder head. You've got a busy day of amounting to nothing tomorrow.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:44 PM, September 03, 2008

Anonymous....

"Ah Jiffy. You forget. You're a born loser. The rest of us are just trying to play catch up as you go deeper and deeper into the sewer that is your useless life."

Nah, I'd be ignorant anonymous trash with bupkis, afraid to post under my own name, desperately pawin' through other people's garbage in the hopes of findin' somethin' to say and makin' psychotic allegations about their wives while repeatedly posting their names and addresses and offering google map directions to their home in a foolish, futile attempt to deceive and distract from my own dismal, dreary, dimwitted, delusional, dire straits if that were the case, little nameless, stoneless, delusional-dreck-dealin' clueless-cretin fella.

That schmuck would truly be toast.

As long as I'm not him, I'm fine.

Shalom, schmuck. Sleep tight in the knowledge that your "lead" is insurmountable.

Say goodnight, greasy.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 10:16 PM, September 03, 2008

Wow Jiffy.

You are just so impressive when you have one of your little tantrums.

Hey when was the last time you held a full time job in the real world?

Real meaning that other people can see it too just incase there is any confusion on your part on what is real.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:03 PM, September 03, 2008