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3.06.2008

 

Hanging primaries

This little matter of seating delegates from Florida and Michigan could prove more divisive to the Democratic Party than any wounds Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama might inflict on each other.

Clinton argues that it was a Republican-controlled Legislature and a Republican governor who moved up Florida's primaries in conflict with Democratic Party rules. So the votes should count.

Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean disagrees. He said today Florida and Michigan should hold new primaries, paid for by the state parties. The Associated Press reports he could have trouble getting that passed Clinton's network.

I don't see, however, how Clinton could get her scenario past the American voters.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The former head of the Democratic National Committee
said Thursday it was doubtful DNC Chairman Howard Dean would be able to get
approval for a plan for do-over presidential nomination contests in Florida and
Michigan.
“It’ll be a hellacious battle,” said Don Fowler, a
former DNC chairman who sits on the party’s rule-making committee. Before
the primaries started, “Howard Dean had enough votes to get most everything he
wanted. Now that this thing has gone as far as it has and the lines have formed
according to candidates. I’m not sure how that vote would shake out now,” said
Fowler, who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Now, everything is being viewed in terms of how it
benefits a particular candidate, not the party or the process, Fowler said.
Nonetheless, Fowler said, something has to be done, “the rules be damned”
to seat delegates from states Democrats have to and can win in the general
election.
“All they have to do is come before us with rules
that fit into what they agreed to a year and a half ago, and then they’ll be
seated,” Dean said during a round of interviews Thursday on network and cable TV
news programs. The two state parties will have to find the funds to pay
for new contests without help from the national party, Dean said. “We
can’t afford to do that. That’s not our problem. We need our money to win the
presidential race,” he said.



- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
They want an electoral mulligan. The big complaint I keep hearing it that the people of FL and MI deserve to have their voices heard. Damn straight they do AND they actually have. The democratic voters in both those states elected people to represent their interests who saw fit to ignore the rules of the national nominating process. The voters of FL and MI should have their say. They did and will. The next time they vote they ought to vote for people other than the knuckleheads that decided to disenfranchise them. 48 out of 50 states managed to get it right.
 
It is mind boggling that people can seriously consider voting for a Democrat. They are viewing the Dems as the party of change. In fact they are the party that can't. So far they:
1. Can't run their primary process without this chaos in Florida and Michigan. The rules were the rules until someone thought that they should change. How will they ever manage the US Gov't? ...or is this all somehow really just another covert action led by the Bush Admin? Darn that Dick Cheney.

2. Have 2 front runners who are covered in scandal. The Clinton's have a legacy of scandal attached to their machine and she refuses to make her tax filings public. Obama is in bed with Tony Rezko, a hateful church minister and the Weather Underground.

3. Have bungled every promise Reid and Pelosi made when they took control of the Congress last year. In fact what they have done is led the Congress to its lowest approval rating in years.

4. Have failed to pass any workable solution to Social Security bringing it to its knees because it involves making hard decisions that will limit their re-electability

5. Lied to us having promised to get us out of Iraq and have accomplished nothing.

What are you guys thinking?

Captain America
 
The Dems do look a lot like the Keystone cops.
 
And this is how Barak Obama thinks.... it's more than scary that you just drink the kool-aid but don't know his voting record.

Captain America
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.....from the National Review

Monday, March 03,2008

Obama; No Gun Shops Within Five Miles of Schools; Porn Shops Okay



As Corner contributor Dave Kopel and David Bernstein note, Barack Obama proposed a few years ago a federal law against licensed firearms dealers operating within five miles of a school or park. As Kopel notes, "Every town I've ever visited which has more than a few dozen inhabitants has either a school or a park. Hypothesizing that the ban would apply to city parks (e.g., Central Park in New York City) but not to National Parks, pick a geographical region, and describe where a licensed firearms dealer could operate. Or pick a geographic point (e.g, Houston)and identify how far a peson would have to drive in order to get to the closest point where a gun store could legally be located. Extra credit for illustrative maps."

As the commenters noted, this would effectively ban gun shops from most of the country, and just about every city.

However, Obama appears to find another kind of establishment to be perfectly fine operating near your children's school:

Obama voted present on a measure to prohibit sex-related shops from opening near schools or places of worship, which ultimately did not pass the Senate.

The bill did not get the required three-fifths majority, so it did not in fact pass.

Why on God's green earth does Barack Obama object to mandates on local authorities for porn shops but not for gun stores? Or conversely, why does he feel it's necessary to keep gun stores five miles from a school, but no limit on porn shops?
 
Some interesting excerpts on B.O.'s relationship with Tony Rezko. What do you really know about this guy?
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NY Times

March 2, 2008

The 2008 Campaign
As Developer Heads to Trial, Questions Linger Over a Deal With Obama
By MIKE McINTIRE and CHRISTOPHER DREW
Tony Rezko was obviously in trouble. He was a defendant in at least a dozen lawsuits, federal investigators in Chicago were poking around, and his name was in newspaper articles about corruption and fraud.......

......Mr. Rezko, a longtime confidant and fund-raiser for Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois, a Democrat, has pleaded not guilty to charges of extorting campaign contributions and payoffs from companies looking to do business with the Blagojevich administration.

Mr. Obama’s name is likely to surface during the trial, if only because $10,000 of the money Mr. Rezko is accused of extorting wound up in Mr. Obama’s 2004 Senate campaign. There is nothing to indicate that Mr. Obama did any favors for Mr. Rezko, but there is ample evidence that Mr. Rezko did favors for Mr. Obama.

The two men became friends in the early 1990s when Mr. Rezko tried to hire Mr. Obama to work on his low-income housing developments. When Mr. Obama turned to politics, Mr. Rezko was an early supporter and fund-raiser. Mr. Rezko also stepped in when Mr. Obama, a newly elected United States senator, and his family found a Georgian mansion for sale in the Kenwood section of Chicago.

When the transactions were first reported, Mr. Obama said only that he had asked Mr. Rezko, as a developer, whether he thought the house was worth buying. But last month, Mr. Obama’s campaign staff said the senator also recalled walking around the house and the adjacent lot with Mr. Rezko.

Mr. Obama has said he did not know why Mr. Rezko decided to buy the lot. Business associates of Mr. Rezko said he gave various explanations, among them that he wanted to help the Obamas expand their backyard and that he thought it would be a good investment to own a lot next to a prominent politician. But Mr. Rezko’s involvement was important because the owners of the house and the lot had stipulated that neither could be sold unless a deal for the other closed on the same day....

.....Mr. Rezko, however, had come into money two months earlier, when he obtained a $3.5 million loan from a Panamanian company controlled by his friend and business partner, Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi billionaire who was convicted several years ago in France on fraud charges.

Alasdair Pepper, a lawyer based in London who represented Mr. Auchi, said that Mr. Rezko was expected to use the money for his pizza business, and that “as far as my client is aware, Mr. Rezko used the loan for its intended purpose and not for any other purpose.”
 
Barack is suddenly getting the spotlight on him and it appears he is just another sleazy Chicago pol. But just keep giving those college kids and liberal trustfunders their Kool-Aid.
 
Interestingly, Hillary is about to do to Obama what Bush is accused of doing to Al Gore. She will lose the popular vote but manage to win the election/nomination.

I find some humor in that.

Captain America
 
Maybe Barack can get a job "driving Miss Hillary".
 
Anonymous said...

"Interestingly, Hillary is about to do to Obama what Bush is accused of doing to Al Gore. She will lose the popular vote but manage to win the election/nomination."

Actually, it was 5 members of the Supreme Court, Katherine Harris and his lard-butted little brother that did it to Gore, my little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest friend.

"I find some humor in that."

You'd better, herr captain. You're not gonna be smilin' much come November.
 
As long as you are around we will always have a joke.

Captain America
 
Obama and Rezko now theirs a ticket made in Hell!

JW can you give us some reasion why this relationship shouldn't be looked into??
 
Please let me answer for jw:

You are a nitwit, numbskull, coalition of the clueless, neo-nazi racist schmuck. Prove it. You are factually challenged.

Bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis...bupkis

Dismissed.


For those needing translation from JW-speak, that means I don't have a good answer so let me deflect my lack of substance by being insulting.
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Hanging primaries":

Obama and Rezko now theirs a ticket made in Hell!

"JW can you give us some reasion why this relationship shouldn't be looked into??"

Can you give me some "reason" why I'd be obligated to give you a "reason," little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, not familiar with our system of justice in this Country, fella?

That's what I thought.

Evidently, you're from this neck of the woods, little fella. Clearly, you're unfamiliar with our system of justice in this Country.

I'll try to explain it to your ignorant ass.

Ya see, in this Country, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, nameless-nitwit fella, one is not obligated to prove their innocence. It is up to the accuser to prove their guilt.

Moreover, the accuser is obligated to demonstrate probable cause to obtain a warrant from a Judge to investigate the accused.

No PC, no warrant.

Let me know if I'm goin' too fast for ya now, schmuck.

This is still shrub's injustice department, schmuck. If they've got a case, they'll make it. If they don't, Ken Starr is evidence they'll blow 100 million bucks tryin' to manufacture one.

Like you, they're desperate, dumb, scum and they've got bupkis.

Then again, like you, they've never let themselves be confused with the facts before. I doubt they're gonna start now.
 
Anonymous said...

Nice try, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella, but it just means you're ignorant trash with bupkis and there's nothing to refute.

Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
 
I did not realize it was Bush's Justice department that engaged Ken Starr as you suggest.

The facts in this world (you may live in a different universe):

Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel in
August 1994 to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been appointed by the Attorney General. After five years (1999) as independent counsel, Starr resigned and returned to private practice as an appellate lawyer and a visiting professor at New York University and the George Mason University School of Law.

Just so you have the facts.....

Captain America
 
Still waiting to hear what crimes Karl Rove is guilty of.
 
Still waiting to hear how Nazi Germany was no threat to the US and FDR forced Japan to attack Pearl Harbor just to get us out of the Depression he'd caused, little bigot boy.

You've been failin' to cough that evidence up since their were leaves on the trees.

Green ones.
 
Anonymous said...

"I did not realize it was Bush's Justice department that engaged Ken Starr as you suggest."

I did, eh? Feel free to point out just where I "suggested" it was, little factually-challenged nameless-nitwit, got-bupkis fella.

And as long as you're up, tell me what that's got to do with anonymous bogus allegations against Obama, little fella.

That's what I thought.

"The facts in this world (you may live in a different universe):"

Nice try, little factually-challenged, nameless-nitwit fella.

In the world I live in, Vermont is represented by Senator Pat Leahy, Senator Bernie Sanders and Congressman.

How about yours, little fella?

"Starr was appointed by a three-judge panel in
August 1994 to continue the Whitewater investigation, replacing Robert B. Fiske, who had been appointed by the Attorney General."

Well, since you're such a stickler for the facts, little fella, how'd that Whitewater thing turn out?

That's what I thought.

"After five years (1999) as independent counsel, Starr resigned and returned to private practice as an appellate lawyer and a visiting professor at New York University and the George Mason University School of Law."

Yeah, he went back to bein' a tobacco lawyer.

Again, after 5 years and 70 million bucks, how'd that Whitewater thing turn out, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella?

That's what I thought.

Just so ya know the facts, ya got bupkis, herr kaptain. Bupkis.

Ya always do.
 
"Again, after 5 years and 70 million bucks, how'd that Whitewater thing turn out, little factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest fella?"

About as well as all the investigations Pelosi, Reid and Leahy have carried out over the last year into all the Bush/Cheney conspiracies.
 
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