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2.28.2008

 

Church Street with Chelsea

You can stroll Church Street with Chelsea at 9:30 a.m. or catch her at an event at the Dudley Davis center at UVM (Atrium 5 - that building's got so many atriums they lose count after a while) at 10:30 a.m. Friday.

Given her reluctance to talk to the media, it'll be up to you members of the public to see if you can ask her anything and get her to answer.

So have at it - what do you want to ask Chelsea?

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
Hey Chelsea, always wondered - how did your Mom make $100,000 in cattle futures with only a $1000 investment? Sure sounds like she's a genius when it comes to the business world!
 
Chelsea - What are your parents hiding by not releasing their tax returns? Obama has released his tax returns, why not Clinton?
 
"Obama has released his tax returns, why not Clinton?"

Ask the real questions. Has Obama released his financial dealings with his Chicago real estate buddies or the facts of his Board of Director relationship with the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, but which provides grants to the Arab American Action Network("AARN"), an anti-Israel/pro-PLO organization--you know the PLO, that terrorist group, or how, in turn, for grants the AARN co-founder, Rashid Khalidi, held fundraisers for Obama's Senate campaign.

Who cares about Clinton's tax return? Ask the real questions about what exactly Obama DOESN'T want to have disclosed.

Get real with this guy. His free ride needs to end it he is to be a real contender. What of substance do you really know about him?
 
Dear Chelsea, You are a credit to your parents and your country, and I am very proud of you. I hope my daughter grows up to be like you. And I hope my daughter grows up with your mom in the White House!
My question is, do you think mothers in Vermont would prefer you and your mother, or would they want Obama Girl, as role mothers for their children?
You are a brave young woman and I salute you! -- Sheila
 
Thinking of Tony Rezko.....

The UK TImes reports:


February 26, 2008
The Obama-Rezko plot thickens (updated)
Thomas Lifson
The UK Times reports that Barack Obama's involvement with Chicago slum landlord Tony Rezko, currently under indictment, may involve money originating from a British-Iraqi Middle East wheeler-dealer, Nadhmi Auchi, a convicted criminal.


Rezko, an Obama fundraiser, helped facilitate Obama's purchase of a $1.65 million mansion in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood for $300,000 below the asking price. The owner wished to sell both the house and an adjoining lot. Mrs. Rezko paid the full asking price of $625,000 on the same day that the Obamas purchased their luxury home. At a substantial discount. The seller denies that there was any connection between the two transactions. Later, a small portion of the land was sold to the Obamas so that they could expand their garden.


Senator Obama calls this arrangement a "mistake."


Now it develops that Mr. and Mrs. Rezko apparently lacked the money to make the purchase of the plot of land.


In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."


Just weeks before the Hyde Park transactions, Auchi loaned $3.5 million to Rezko.


A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.


There is much yet to be learned about the web of transactions involved, but it now appears that money originating from a convicted Middle Eastern wheeler-dealer found its way to indicted Chicago wheeler-dealer Tony Rezko, and then weeks later provided the means for a nearly simultaneous land transaction that enabled the Obamas to buy their home for substantially below asking price.


It certainly doesn't look like change we can believe in, when it comes to Chicago politics.

Update: much, much more from Chicagoan Rick Moran, writing at Rightwing Nuthouse:


The Obama-Rezko relationship must be understood in the context of the influence peddling, the casual corruption, the cronysm, the favoritism shown in less than open bidding – all part of a city and state political culture where the politician, the businessman, and the crook frequently rub elbows and sometimes wear each other’s hats. Obama hiring the daughter of a Rezko associate to work in his office (after Rezko had helped raise tens of thousands of dollars for his campaign) is no big deal. But this kind of “favor” done for Rezko is a different story:




The Chicago Tribune: “On June 13, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that as a state senator, Obama wrote letters to city and state officials supporting Rezko’s successful bid to get more than $14 million from taxpayers to build apartments for senior citizens. The Sun-Times said the deal included $855,000 in development fees for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss, according to records from the project, which was four blocks outside Obama’s state Senate district.
Obama now regrets his association with Rezko and has given $150,000 to charity in order to atone for his sins.


Sorry Barry but it don’t work that way.
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It is time to ask the real questions about Obama and his business relationships....
 
Will Gaye and Medeline be there for their last Clinton rally before switching to Obama? Who would have figured Symington would be late to the party? She picks candidates like she picks priority legislation.

And how bout this Gaye. Ask Chelsea to explain her mother's support for tire burning, which I think you opposed, right?
 
Obama's kool-aid kids don't care about his questionable, seedy past, his zero accomplishments as state and US senator, his supporters like Louis Farrakhan, his wife's lack of support for her country, or his refusal to wear his American flag pin or being sworn in on a Koran. It's CHANGE and HOPE, dude!
 
Somehow the real hope is the Silent Majority still exists and makes its stand for common sense in November. We need change but that doesn't mean abandon logic and common sense values. We need a leader that will walk the talk. That's not Obama.
 
Thats not Hillary.
 
What is actually pitiful is it's probably none of the candidates today.

With all the talented leaders in the private sector that have real experience not one will ever be attracted because of all the partisan silliness that brings gridlock to any effort to implement change.

We will be 'special interest grouped' to death. The government has brought Social Security to the brink of disaster and now wants to extend that debacle to socialized medicine; they choose to debate who was against the Iraq war first and avoid the question of how do you get out of it rationally and permanently and; they support wasting our money having the FBI investigate if Roger Clemens did or did not tell the truth to some overblown unimportant committee. Compound that with a Judiciary that wants to make law not opine on it.

How much more misguided can this current group in Washington (all branches of gov't) be?
 
Barack Obama was NEVER sworn into the Senate on the Koran!
I also find it laughable that Clinton supporters think it is non-germaine that Hillary won't release her tax returns. It does matter where your money comes from and goes when you are levelling the kind of idiotic charges against Obama that she, her campaign, and her ditto-head followers will not let go of!
Remember, Hillary was a board member of Wal-Mart ... and so was part of the culture that crushed unions and did NOT provide healthcare benefits to workers!
 
Amen! No wonder Leahy, Sanders, Welch and their pals have approval ratings FAR BELOW Bush! They are like a national version of the Vermont House and Senate. We are facing a world of terrorists and energy challenges, and the morons in Washington only seem to care about Roger Clemons or getting publicity screaming for the heads of minor public servants in the Bush administration! Closer to home, the state continues it's downward spiral into financial ruin and disaster for it's workers and retirees, and Shumlin, Symington, and company are preoccupied with closing down our best source of energy, trying to interfere with the duties of the National Guard, impeaching the President, and eliminate the one sound bill from last year that SOMEWHAT controlled spiraling school costs!

TAKE BACK VERMONT!!!
 
Wal Mart is the saving grace of the poor and middle class in this country, and has done more to keep inflation down the last dozen years than every politician in the country. Too bad the liberal elite in Vermont don't think that the less-fortunate in the state should be allowed the opportunity to shop in places other than the chi-chi boutiques of Burlington! By the way, why do the Wal Mart workers continually vote down a union?
 
So where does Barack's money come from? How did he buy his house? how do you rationalize the UK Times article?
 
It is also interesting that all of these Clintonites who keep screaming "Rezko" are the same ones who chastized anyone for "wasting time" on investigating the Whitewater deal. Just like the Clinton's and their blind ditto-heads to want it both ways!
 
So maybe accept the facts...Obama isn't so much different than Clinton when it comes to ethics and self-serving questionable deals.
 
I'm not saying either of them are unethical; I like them both (and McCain for that matter). I just don't like hearing political arguments hinged on incents from the past, that in all honesty, you and I don't really know much about fist-hand (the UK Times is a well-known tabloid and might not have balance in mind).
Both Clinton and Obama share a lot in common, he has just done a better job rallying his troops and voters.
 
"Remember, Hillary was a board member of Wal-Mart ... and so was part of the culture that crushed unions and did NOT provide healthcare benefits to workers!"

What is always so interesting about this talking point is that:

(a) no one forces people to work at WalMart but when they open a store, people line up around the corner to apply for a job. It's call the free market.

(b) no one complains about the low prices they offer their products at. You all shop there. They do this be keeping their operating costs low. It is called prudent business management. The same thing you would do if it were your business.

(c) they may not provide the healthcare benefits you suggest but they provide a steady paycheck to a lot of people keeping them off the unemployment rolls which you would be supporting otherwise in federal and state taxes. Would you prefer to pay their welfare checks?

(d) they pay a significant amount of federal, state and local taxes which fund a lot of gov't services many areas could not afford otherwise. You all seem to like big gov't up here, so you should be thanking them for allowing you to have your wish.

Yeah....Walmart is REAL evil. C'mon.
 
Actually, I go out of my way NOT to shop at Wal Mart, so don't include me in your lovefest. I think Wal Mart is killing the American economy by crushing the small businesses that once defined the American small town. I am so thankful Vermont has been able to keep this scourge at bay (except for Williston, but that's to be expected).
 
"Amen! No wonder Leahy, Sanders, Welch and their pals have approval ratings FAR BELOW Bush!"

They do, eh? Where? When? With whom? Feel free to cough that horsebrit up with the rest of your non-existent evidence, little ignorant white-supremacist trash bigot boy.

That's what I thought.

It must be with your evidence demonstrating Japan and Germany were no threat to us in 1941 when FDR made Japan attack Pearl Harbor just so he could declare War on them and get us out of the Depression he had us mired in.

If it's not there, it must be in the pocket of Paul Bremmer's pants with that missing 10 billion bucks.

"They are like a national version of the Vermont House and Senate."

Ya mean as in the fact that they represent the interests of Vermont and the United States of America as opposed to your ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged and fundamentally-dishonest butt, little bigot boy?

"We are facing a world of terrorists and energy challenges, and the morons in Washington only seem to care about Roger Clemons or getting publicity screaming for the heads of minor public servants in the Bush administration!"

And what allegedly "minor public servants in the Bush administration" would that be, little factually-challenged fella?

"Closer to home, the state continues it's downward spiral into financial ruin and disaster for it's workers and retirees, and Shumlin, Symington, and company are preoccupied with closing down our best source of energy, trying to interfere with the duties of the National Guard, impeaching the President, and eliminate the one sound bill from last year that SOMEWHAT controlled spiraling school costs!"

And the evidence substantiating this latest load of your utterly-psychotic slop is.......?

That's what I thought.

In other words, as opposed to the jimi douglas experience, they're doing the job they were elected to do by the people of Vermont?

"TAKE BACK VERMONT!!!"

It's not yours to take, little ignorant white-supremacist slime fella. Try Tennessee.

Perhaps you can get Larry Craig to pop in to do a fundraiser, little factually-challenged bigot boy. He wouldn't even have to leave the airport.

If ya play your cards right and take a sufficiently wide stance, ya might even get the stall next to his, little fella.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...

"So maybe accept the facts...Obama isn't so much different than Clinton when it comes to ethics and self-serving questionable deals."

And by facts you mean your ignorant, ill-informed, unsubstantiated nameless nitwit opinion.

Nice try.
 
yawn....did somebody post something?
 
"And by facts you mean your ignorant, ill-informed, unsubstantiated nameless nitwit opinion."


And by facts, you mean anyone that agrees with your opinion? Notice my ability to post without the spewing of insults. That's called adult behavior.
 
"So where does Barack's money come from? How did he buy his house? how do you rationalize the UK Times article?"

What's to rationalize, schmuck? If the ignorant, ill-informed, dumb white-supremacist trash likes of you and the rest of the organized criminal enterprise calling itself the gop has anything on him, cough it up and charge him.

If ya could, ya would. You haven't 'cause ya can't.

Like most ignorant, bigoted-trash gop-slop nonsense, your case is wholly without merit, factually and legally, so unless and until ya can come up with something, stuff a sock in it.

Shalom, schmuck.
 
Yawn! Do you have anything to say of value?
 
But it is okay for the NY Times to run their smear job on McCain and the Lobbyist....
 
Obama got the bulk of his money by writing best selling books.

He's released his tax returns to the public.
 
Yawn, There's no mystery on that score with you, shmendrik.

Ya had factually-challenged/ fundamentally-dishonest bupkis when I got here and your sorry coalition of the clueless butt's been regressing steadily ever since.

You nameless nitwits just don't fare well in the light of day. That steady diet of acme anvils to your clueless cabeza don't seem to be helpin' ya much, either.

Bummer.
 
Yawn.....do you have anything of value to add or just the same old insults?
 
Anonymous said...

And by facts you mean your ignorant, ill-informed, unsubstantiated nameless nitwit opinion."


"And by facts, you mean anyone that agrees with your opinion?"

No, I mean facts, as in you ain't got none and they ain't doin' you any favors.

"Notice my ability to post without the spewing of insults. That's called adult behavior."

Feel free to point out just where I've questioned your ability to pleasantly spew anonymous bupkis, little factually-challenged fella.

Ya got bupkis. End of frickin' story. I don't give a damn how nicely you've wrapped it.

If you want a frickin' hallmark card, go to the drug store and buy yourself one.

Evidently, I've failed to make it sufficiently clear to you that I don't suffer bupkis-spewin' nameless-nitwit fools gladly and I ain't gonna start with the likes of you.

Capice?
 
Yawn.... clearly you have no value to add. Be gone little man.
 
Anonymous said...

"But it is okay for the NY Times to run their smear job on McCain and the Lobbyist...."

Ah, the ol' "let's change the subject and hope nobody notices" song and dance. Gee, now who coulda seen that coming. It's not like you factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, nameless-nitwit loons run the same play every time you're sacked in the backfield for for huge losses or anything.

Cut the crap, clueless. Drudge was postin' the McCain story in December when the gop establishment was tryin' to derail McCain for being "a disloyal closet liberal" and pass off Mittwit Romney as the "true conservative" so spare me the bogus " big bad liberal media beating up on the poor-persecuted gop" song and dance.

There's more than a few things wrong with the NYT, but bein' too tough on gop-slop nonsense ain't one of 'em.

In fact, ya can toss that crap in the trash pile along with "reagan proved deficits don't matter" and ludicrous "the people who brought you the Depression are good for the Economy" slop.

Ya got bupkis. Either get yourself somethin' other than bupkis or stuff a sock in it.

Dismissed.
 
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JWCoop10 said...
Anonymous said...

"Ah, yes. More absolute, pure humanity from asshole of the year:"

Always with the sweet talk, schmuck.

Go help your boy bubbles with his non-existent evidence hunt, little fella. Make your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, nameless-nitwit ass useful for a change.
 
JW said...

Nothing actually...again. You bore us.
 
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jw has been removed by the author.
 
JW said...

"Nothing actually...again. You bore us."

Sure, ya do. That certainly explains why your anonymous ass selectively quotes me so often.

Always a pleasure.
 
JW said...

"Nothing actually...again. You bore us."

"Us", being the factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, anonymous, bupkis-spewin' likes of you, bubbles and the other 2-3 nameless-nitwits comprising his amen corner.

That's mighty sweet of ya to say so, schmuck.

Gee, as ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist trash purveyors of nameless-nitwit nonsense go, you're very thoughtful.

Always a pleasure.
 
"Somehow the real hope is the Silent Majority still exists and makes its stand for common sense in November."

Ah, so you're a Hillary man, little fella. Take heart. I'm sure she'll make a first rate first female VP of the United States of America, little fella. She's helped clean up brain-dead Bush League messes before and I'm sure that experience will be invaluable in helping to clean up this one, too.

"We need change but that doesn't mean abandon logic and common sense values. We need a leader that will walk the talk. That's not Obama."

Really? And based on the long national nightmare that's been the Madness of King George, just what "logic and common sense values" of the 43rd reich would we be abandoning?

That's what I thought.

I've got news for ya, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella. History has made it abundantly clear that the people of Vermont have never bought and will never buy into your ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit, Take back Vermont trash no matter how much the likes of the little bigot boy and your ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash anonymous ass squawks.

Moreover, by virtue of that fact, you are neither silent nor do you represent the majority of the State of Vermont.

You're merely factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash with nothin' to say who've been saying it far too loudly for far too long, so put on a clean sheet, pack up your bigoted-trash BS and tell your story walkin'.

Try your luck with the Trent Lott trash of Mississippi or the Counterfeit Larry Craig Christians of Idaho.

Clearly, nobody here was buyin' it from Ruthie dwyer 10 years ago and it doesn't smell any better now.

Dismissed.
 
Jw said... Nothing of value... Again. Be gone little man
 
"selectively quotes"

No, every single one of the profanities and insults quoted is 100% yours and 100% accurate.
 
schmuck
little fella
your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, nameless-nitwit ass
your anonymous ass
factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, anonymous, bupkis-spewin' likes of you
nameless-nitwits
schmuck
ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist trash purveyors of nameless-nitwit nonsense
little fella
little fella
brain-dead
43rd reich
little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella
your ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit, Take back Vermont trash
little bigot boy
your ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash anonymous ass
factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash
nothin' to say
put on a clean sheet
your bigoted-trash BS
tell your story walkin'
Dismissed
 
Let's see if we can follow the twisted logic of jw:

"Ah, so you're a Hillary man, little fella"

He identifies the poster as someone who prefers Clinton to Obama. So the poster is obviously NOT a Republican.

But then he goes on to accuse the poster of being:

"little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella
your ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit, Take back Vermont trash
little bigot boy
your ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash anonymous ass
factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash
nothin' to say
put on a clean sheet
your bigoted-trash BS
tell your story walkin'
Dismissed"

So, in jw world, if a Democrat prefers Clinton to Obama, he/she is a "little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest ignorant, ill-informed, nameless-nitwit, Take back Vermont trash
little bigot boy, bigoted-trash ass dumb white-supremacist trash Klansman.

Ya can't argue with jw's logic or his helpful way of bringin everyone under the Democratic tent, now can ya?
 
"selectively quotes"

No, every single one of the profanities and insults quoted is 100% yours and 100% accurate.

They are when posted in their entirety, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella.
 
CLINTON DONATIONS FROM TROUBLED FIRM

Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:47 PM by Domenico Montanaro

Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/718538.aspx
 
Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Church Street with Chelsea":

"CLINTON DONATIONS FROM TROUBLED FIRM

Posted: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:47 PM by Domenico Montanaro

Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show."

Gee, there's one more reason to vote for Obama. He just might eke out a victory here Tuesday after all.

I wonder if Hillary will get fewer votes than McCain.

What's the over/under in lunatic- fringe land, little bigot boy?
 
Well, Barack Hussein's pal Tony Rezko isn't the only crook in dim circles - just the sleaziest.
 
He hasn't been to jail YET, unlike McCain's buddies so he's not quite at the bottom of the sleaze pile.
 
Anonymous said...

"He hasn't been to jail YET, unlike McCain's buddies so he's not quite at the bottom of the sleaze pile."

Don't confuse the whacks with the facts.

Do you really think the likes of bubbles and his nameless-nitwit fan club are willing or able to distinguish between indictments, convictions and incarcerations like the Dukestir, Abramoff, Ney, Stevens, and Scooter from unproven allegations like those leveled at Obama?

Remember who and what you're dealin' with here.

They're dumb, they're scum and they're gops. End of frickin' story. Facts and evidence don't mean anything to these loons.

Failure to be mindful of that fact is like designing a plane without considering the effects of gravity.

When it's all said and done, there's just no escapin' the fundamental reality that Gops are to facts what Victoria's Secret Catalogues are to Fat Chicks in their 50s. It just ain't gonna happen.
 
Why did Obama apologize for his dealings with Tony-boy, then?

This crazed cult of Obama is about like Heaven's Gate back in 1997. Let's hope we have another space ship arrive for jw and friends to travel to Hale-Bopp and BEYOND! Get the Kool-Aid!
 
"Why did Obama apologize for his dealings with Tony-boy, then?"

And an apology is a guilty plea, little got-bupkis fella? How.....?

You've got a gop president and a gop injustice department, schmuck. If you've got a case against Obama with this Rezko business, make it.

Apart from the fact you've got bupkis for evidence, what's stoppin' ya? It's not like you've ever let a lack of facts, evidence or criminal activity stand in your way before.

Given the fact that the ignorant white-supremacist trash likes of you along with the 2-3 nameless-nitwits clueless enough to buy your act that hang their tin-foil hats here speak for the silent majority of "real" Vermonters and "real" Americans in your utterly-psychotic estimation have a case on Obama, make it.

What's stoppin' ya? Charge him. Read him his rights. Cuff him and frog-march his hope-mongering, uppity-negro butt right outta the polling place in front of his supporters.

Make him perp-walk up and down the street in full view of the media. Fixed News can run it on a continuous loop right on through November.

You speak for all real Americans. It's not like anybody is gonna think you're railroading an innocent man for Christ sake.

If you and your nameless-nitwit fan club think he's guilty then he must be guilty.

Bust him. Cuff him. Put his uppity-negro butt on a chain gang and put him to work. Better yet, stick him in Gitmo or some black site in Kazakhstan, water-board his uppity-black butt and give him what he deserves. You represent the true silent majority of Vermont and the United States of America. Who's gonna bitch, Borat?!!

Do it and be done with it!

What's stoppin' ya?

That's what I thought.

"This crazed cult of Obama is about like Heaven's Gate back in 1997." Let's hope we have another space ship arrive for jw and friends to travel to Hale-Bopp and BEYOND! Get the Kool-Aid!"

Nice try, little ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist-trash scum fella. No sale.

Have ya seen Obama's new book, How to Serve Man? It's a cook book, little fella, complete with a picture of some lard-butted gop on a spit over and open flame. Damned if that guy isn't the spittin' image of the schmuck from Exxon.


You coalition of the clueless cretins cornered the kool-aid market 28 years ago when ya managed to fool enough of the people enough of the time to elect the incompetent trash likes of ronald reagan. Now you and the other 47 ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash asses are stuck with warehouses full of the stuff because we've seen your act and no body's buyin' it.

After 7 years of the madness of king george people want competence and whenever people want competence, gops are toast.
 
Moron, read the 7:37 and 8:51 Feb. 29 posts on this thread. They sum it all up. No one has yet accused Obama of anything other than sleaze and poor judgement. So yell all you want about those bad ol' racists that want to hurt Saint Obama. He is no better nor worse than any other Ward-healing, precinct boss the Chicago area dimocrat party. That's all.

Good day.
 
bubba has left a new comment on the post "Church Street with Chelsea":

"Moron, read the 7:37 and 8:51 Feb. 29 posts on this thread. They sum it all up."

Yeah, ya got bupkis and ya don't know what the hell you're talkin' about.

What else is new, nitwit.

The facts ain't doin' ya any favors and ya wanna change the subject and hope nobody notices.

I noticed and that's not exactly news, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest bigot boy.

Face it, little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella, whenever facts and evidence rear their ugly heads, you gops are basically screwed. It's just a matter of how much and how badly.

A lot and terminally to answer your next questions.

Those posts are no different than the rest of the delusional dreck you clowns are constantly coughin' up.

"No one has yet accused Obama of anything other than sleaze and poor judgement."

Nice try. Cut the crap. I know what you and your little nameless-nitwit buddies have got and you've never been exactly bashful about makin' specious allegations ya can't substantiate before, schmuck.

Ya don't have any other tricks and that's the extent of your act. Beyond that, you've got bupkis.

You've got bupkis. End of frickin' story.

"So yell all you want about those bad ol' racists that want to hurt Saint Obama. He is no better nor worse than any other Ward-healing, precinct boss the Chicago area dimocrat party. That's all."

Nice try. There's nothin' to yell about and there's nothin' to get.

The facts have left ya plucked, you've got bupkis and you're desperately tryin' to change the subject.

There's no mystery here. There never was. There never will be.

Always a pleasure.
 
Yawn..... more of the same lack of facts. Even the insults are repetitive. You bore us.
 
Thanks. Glad ya like it.
 
REAL News You won't See on TV: Dick Cheney's NEXT Big Energy MONOPOLY Power RIPOFF:

Obama is the pre-packaged "New & Improved Chocolate Flavor" Presidential candidate PRODUCT - being hyped & PUSHED by GE and its WHOLLY-Owned subsidiaries NBC & MSNBC...along with Westinghouse & its subsidiary CBS...while slamming the Clintons all day every day. (Assisted by...CNN/FOX/ and a lot of newspaper & radio media dependent on advertising$$.)

GE is the 2nd largest corporation on the planet.

Obama is IN with the Nuclear Industry: Excelon Corp of Illinois has been one of his largest contributors from his entry into politics to the present. Excelon is the largest nuke operator on the planet;owns Con-Ed of NY; more nukes in Illinois than any other state.

GE, Westinghouse, Excelon & 3 consortiums of other companies are planning to build 29 new nuclear power plants. Their Wholly-Owned & Wholly Influenced "News" media are selling the Obama Product because Obama is in favor of Nukes.

In 2005 Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill (H.R.6) which ENABLED the nuke industry to make its Plans to build 29 new nukes-by Guaranteeing Taxpayer Payback of any nuke loans that default. (No nukes were built for the past 30 years because the banks wouldn't loan the money - too risky)

Obama Voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill-despite the fact the Congressional Budget Office rated the risk of default on the nuke loans at 50% or greater. (Does that sound like...GOOD...JUDGMENT to You?)

[NY Times has several articles about the nuke plans & a map showing all 29 locations; Wikipedia covers the subject]

Clinton Voed AGAINST the Cheney Energy Bill and said her Energy Plan does not include nuclear.

? "Its about the FUTURE...Turn The PAGE" ?

Nope. ts about Turning the PAGE BACK to the PAST: Obsloete 50 yr old nuke power plants-the dirtiest most expensive kind/centrally-controlled MONOPOLY POWER-instead of inventing New, Clean, Green De-Centralized inexpensive Energy.

An ad campaign has already begun on the TV media to re-package & re-name nuclear power plants as: GREEN & CLEAN -for-everybody too young to remember the 1970's anti-nuke movement and all the Bad News about nuclear energy.

Don't be taken in by the ad campaigns-Google:'nuclear waste dumps' & read about the hundreds of BILLIONS of gallons of nuke waste at the Hanford Washington dump; 140 tons of plutonium stored at Rocky Flats, Colorado; Barnwell, South Carolina; leaking into groundwater and rivers; plutonium released into the air around Denver from 500 instances of fires at Rocky Flats; stored on-site at every nuke reactor in America...presenting hundreds of potential "dirty bomb" targets for terrorists.

Is it true that Obama takes No Contributions/NO MONEY from Registered Federal Lobbyists?

Yes. It's a LawyerSpeak/Trick of: Speaking a Small truth covering up a Big Lie.

Nope, doesn't take money from REGISTERED FEDERAL Lobbyists.

DOES take money from STATE Lobbyists, Not Registered Lobbyists, AND the wives, husbands, law partners, aunts, uncles cousins...of Registered Federal Lobbyists. Gets money from the same big corporate donors as any other candidate.

Obama's campaign finances are involved in the prosecution (by Patrick Fitzgerald)and trial of his friend of 20 years Antoin Rezko. Some of the funds... allegedly...extorted by Rezko went into Obama's campaign coffers. Curiously, Iraqi Power Plants amd fraud are also involved in Rezko's trial. (Google: Obama -Rezko- Alsammarae-Auichi- IRAQ POWER PLANTS)

GE & the same wealthy people who sold the "new & improved vanilla flavor" Presidential PRODUCTS: Reagan & Bush/s 1 & 2 - are behind the massive ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN to sell you OBAMA.

At the beginning of this campaign season a large majority of voters were looking forward to electing Clinton. Then Obama stepped in and started the dirty campaigning that has created the DIVISION he so hypocritically decries. Obama played "the race card" so he could win in South Carolina. He was caught red-handed playing that race card-but the media blamed it on Clinton-even though they all knew they were pushing the Big Lie.

With nearly ALL "the mainstream media" pimping for Obama & slamming, smearing, and lying about the Clintons-it is truly amazing enough voters have seen thru the Media-Created Obama "movement"-for Clinton to STILL be in the race.

The only way a very small minority can CONTROL a very large Majority is: DIVIDE & CONQUER-Exactly the same Republican Strategy/Deception they have successfully pulled for most of the last century And ALL of this century, so far. . .

GE, the nuke industry/wealthy have hedged their bets & they will get Billions of your money via 29 new nukes IF either Obama or McCain is elected President.

Ladies & Gentlemen, Dads & Moms buy nothing GE & Westinghouse are selling - not Obama, not a washing machine, a dishwasher, 29 nuke power plants, or a garbage disposer .... because there is no garbage disposer for Radioactive Nuke Waste. Do not allow them to poison the earth and your children anymore.
 
"Thanks. Glad ya like it."

Nobody likes your psychotic nonsense.


They're dumb, they're scum and they're gops
End of frickin' story
Facts and evidence don't mean anything to these loons
Fat Chicks
little got-bupkis fella
schmuck
you've got bupkis
the ignorant white-supremacist trash likes of you
nameless-nitwits
your utterly-psychotic estimation
uppity-negro butt
for Christ sake.
your nameless-nitwit
uppity-negro butt
uppity-black butt
bitch
Nice try
little ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist-trash scum fella
schmuck
You coalition of the clueless cretins
incompetent trash
ignorant, ill-informed, bigoted-trash asses
ya got bupkis
what the hell
nitwit
little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest bigot boy
little factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest fella
screwed
the delusional dreck
you clowns
Cut the crap
your little nameless-nitwit buddies
schmuck
you've got bupkis
You've got bupkis
End of frickin' story
Nice try
you've got bupkis
 
ITEM: Jury selection starts for Tony Rezko today. Think ol' Tony will pull a Web Hubbell and "roll over" for Saint Obama like Web did for Hillary and Bill?
 
"Damn. So much for the nameless-nitwit vote."

Oh, runnin' for something now, are ya?

President of the asylum?
 
Ah, yes. Yet more charm and persuasiveness from jwpsycho.

another load of specious, dumb white-supremacist trash allegations
little bigot boy
pitiful little nameless-nitwit bupkis brigade
little bigot boy
spew the gop-goo
ignorant white-supremacist trash scum merchant
factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest slop
factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest, dumb white-supremacist trash lie
clean sheet
Christ Sake
meshuggah
 
Yet more ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist bupkis from the likes of you, little fella.

At least you've stopped pretending to have a legitimate point of view and anything of value to say, little fella.

Evidently, your ma actually put her foot down and made that a condition of your staying on in her basement.

Smart lady.
 
Ah, yes:

more ignorant, ill-informed, white-supremacist bupkis
little fella
little fella
 
JW said...."And put on a clean sheet, for Christ Sake."

This said by the least tolerant person on the board. JW tell me under all those sheets don't all you guys look the same?

Judging by the slime you spew, I would suspect you may be the first one to the meetings.
 
jw offers this piece of literary brillance..."Clearly, juggling multiple meshuggah positions while walking and chewing Red Man is one more item on the ever-expanding list of things you can't do. "

...While the RedMan drool down your cheek is truly appealing.
 
Anonymous said...

JW said...."And put on a clean sheet, for Christ Sake."

Yeah, JW did. Do you need me to say it again, schmuck?

"This said by the least tolerant person on the board. JW tell me under all those sheets don't all you guys look the same?

Ah, the "ol' be nice to nazis" song and dance.

Not a prayer, schmuck.

I don't break for nameless neo-nazi nitwits and I ain't gonna start with you.

Go in peace, putz.
 
"I don't break for nameless neo-nazi nitwits and I ain't gonna start with you. "

why did you reply then...loser?
 
Anonymous said...

I don't break for nameless neo-nazi nitwits and I ain't gonna start with you.

"why did you reply then...loser?"

Why do you ask, little nameless-nitwit fella?
 
Clever....yawn
 
Chelsea is it true your father is Janet Reno ??
 
That was crude the first time around. But do bring it again; doubt very much it will help McCain's chances.
 
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