Obviously the Governor acted before he had all of the facts.
 

Typical knee-jerk Jimbo. Act before thinking it all through. Now I know why Vermont is going down the tubes so fast. I would need to be stoned to read that diatribe from Jimbo.
 

Bring on Pollina!
 

Seems like one phone call would have straightened this out prior to the letter.

This had to be Douglas playing the political card.
 

Nancy, me thinks you forgot to turn the italics off.
 

interesting that you didn't mention anything about the Orange county case sent to diversion by the Republican state's attorney. this was was for 110 plants or something. could it be that jimbo quickly found himself in uncomfortable waters? up against logic, perhaps?
 

Why doesn't Vermont just legalize ALL drugs and pedophilia and start concentrating on serious stuff like trying to start a business without all of the ACT 250 permits or the newly-arrived Volvonistas approval? Sure would make it easier for Vermont judges. Don't worry about the kids, they're just going to move out of state anyways!
 

"He acted stupidly because he's a gop"

"Sticking with people and policies that are fundamentally-dishonest, two-faced"

Please provide facts that support and prove these assertions. Otherwise please take your position in line with the 'coalition of clueless' you so frequently berate.

If there are fundmental dishonesty and two-faced actions they whould be proven with fact not half baked assertions.

I look forward to your ranting brillance little fella.
 

Well said Bubba. All these rules just get in the way. After all, we are Vermonters and nobody should be telling us what to do unless of course it is the Progs helping us better redistribute our incomes from those fat cats to masses.
 

I actually like the way it was handled. JD did what he had to do when the event surfaced and then as things evolved maintained an open mind ultimately finding common ground and a solution.

Done like a responsible professional.

That is why he is governor and why Pollina, Racine and all the other wannabes are not.
 

I actually like the way it was handled. JD did what he had to do when the event surfaced and then as things evolved maintained an open mind ultimately finding common ground and a solution.

Done like a responsible professional.

That is why he is governor and why Pollina, Racine and all the other wannabes are not.
 

...in fact I liked it so much it posted twice :-)
 

I suspect he did what he did because there was the clear appearance that Sands was trying to write law from the Judicial branch. Clearly not his job.

It was the right thing to effectively call a time out until the facts were clear and a responsible conclusion could be drawn and decision made.

Obviously he displayed true open-mindedness by reversing his original position. JD is a man of conviction and integrity; something this State needs and wants.
 

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Douglas lifts Sand ban":

"I suspect he did what he did because there was the clear appearance that Sands was trying to write law from the Judicial branch. Clearly not his job."

And I suspect you don't have any more foundation for this tripe than ya do any of the other gop-slop nonsense you've been posting for the past 4 weeks that I've been here.

Douglas dropped it because the facts didn't support his intervention in the first place.

Sand never had a "blanket policy."

If he did, Douglas and the likes of you may have had a point but he didn't so ya don't.

End of frickin' story.

Douglas is no more a man of principle than the likes of Pat Robertson. The only principle he devotes himself to is the political viability of Jim Douglas and the Vermont GOP which entails pretending he never heard of the nitwit in chief despite the fact that he's his State Chair of his Campaign.

The only reason he remains Governor is because the election isn't until 11/08.

What's gonna be him '08 Campaign slogan for Christ Sake? Reelect Jim Douglas - vote for the mediocrity you know?

Dismissed.
 

bubba said...

"Why doesn't Vermont just legalize ALL drugs and pedophilia and ... yada, yada, yada."

In other words, ya got bupkis. You've been shootin' blanks since I got here, bubbles.

"Don't worry about the kids, they're just going to move out of state anyways!"

I'm gonna miss ya, kiddo. You're gonna love Mississippi.

It's been a pleasure.
 

Douglas didn't have the public's support, or the support of the police and his hypocrisy regarding the case in Windsor County vs. the case in Orange County were so glaring you just know he wants it to go away. He's not a man of integrity. He a politician in the worst sense of the word.
 

Anonymous said...
"He acted stupidly because he's a gop. "

"So, when Jim Jefforrds was a GOP -- which was 90% of his political career -- was he stupid?"

No. That's why he left.

"Was George Aiken stupid?"

No. In 1966, he said of American Involvement in Vietnam, "We should declare victory and go home."

Not only did LBJ not listen to him, neither did Nixon, Kissinger, Cheney, Bush, Rummy or Buchanan.

What? No Deane Davis? It's funny how you gops always forget about The Father of ACT 250 and the State Sales Tax. What's up with that?


"Was Abraham Lincoln stupid?"

No. He was a Gop in 1860. In 1864, he ran on a National Unity Ticket with Democrat Andrew Jackson as his VP, so the so-called "Party of Lincoln" didn't even last as long as Lincoln did.


To show ya how things have changed, little fella, Strom Thurmond started out as a Democrat before becoming a gop. So did Jesse Helms.

Then again, Larry Craig is a gop.

David Duke ran as a gop. Reagan was endorsed by the Klan.

All the old Dixiecrats became gops after the Civil Rights Movement when the gops opened their arms and said: "Give us your racists, your rednecks, your Klansmen yearning to lynch free."

That's why the Confederate States are red, little fella. If they're not, no gop can get close enough to steal the Presidency.

Klansmen and rednecks feel at home in the gop. Y'all embrace the same "traditional values."

That should tell anyone with a brain all they need to know.

Perhaps you can find someone to explain it to ya.

"Your'e an a-hole."

So you keep saying every time you get flustered. You get flustered a lot, little fella.

Always a pleasure.
 

Way to go Gov DoesLess!

You spoke before you knew all the facts - just so you could get a photo op and nedia coverage to make you look good!

Then you have the audacity to make this "apology" look like it was your tough guy attitude that resolved this.

Jim Douglas - you are pathetic!
 

Folks: Sand originally needed to say it was a blanket policy because otherwise it would have looked like he was giving special treatment to a lawyer/judge. Now he says it isn't a blanket policy. So the news media should go back to the original question and ask why the special leniency for a lawyer?
 

It's all about perception isn't it. We all saw the same set of facts. You perceive he blew it. I perceive he did the right thing.

Deciding right and wrong after the fact is easy. He had to make a call based on available facts at the time and remain open-minded enough to adjust his position if newer facts come to light. He did and good for him. That's why VT respects and elects him.

I suspect if JD made the statement 'the sky is blue' there would be an outpouring against the statement just because he is a GOP. And as JW has already told us, GOP=Stupid(even though he has offered no proof just his slanted opinion).

Let's not pretend. There has been nothing but opinion on any of these blogs from the right, left or whatever point of view JWCOOP represents.
 

Why didn't Douglas just call Sand and get the facts himself?

Instead he jumped to a wrong conclusion.
 

Anonymous said...

"It's all about perception isn't it. We all saw the same set of facts. You perceive he blew it. I perceive he did the right thing."

No, it's not. The facts are that your boy overreached and exceeded his authority for political purposes and exposed himself for the fraud he is in the process with the Orange County Case.

"Deciding right and wrong after the fact is easy. He had to make a call based on available facts at the time and remain open-minded enough to adjust his position if newer facts come to light. He did and good for him. That's why VT respects and elects him."

Welcome to Cliche Island. Have a nice day.

Gee, ya gonna tell me how a stitch in time saves nine and a watched pot never boils now, too, little fella?

Douglas got elected in 2002 - a gop year when 70 percent of the people were still dumb enough to buy Bush's act.

Perhaps you've noticed that new information has come to light and things have...well, changed a bit.

Douglas gets reelected because people go, "Ah, what the hell. As gops go, he's not so bad."

Christ, I suspect his wife isn't as passionate about him as you are, little fella.

You must just go weak in the knees for lukewarm water.

Uh,oh. My knee's startin' to ache. I suspect a real lame comment comin' on

"I suspect if JD made the statement 'the sky is blue' there would be an outpouring against the statement just because he is a GOP. And as JW has already told us, GOP=Stupid(even though he has offered no proof just his slanted opinion)."

Ya mean besides Iraq, No wmd, Climate Change, Dubai Ports, Rummy the Dummy, Katrina, Plame-Gate, Gonzo-Gate, Scooter-Gate, Fired Attorneys - Gate, Iran-Gate, Water-Torture Gate, Destroyed CIA Tapes -Gate, Whateverthefookhedoestoday-Gate, Whateverthefookhedoestomorrow-Gate and last but not least, Go Cheney Yourself-Gate?

Who was Shrub's State Campaign Chair in '04 again, little fella?

Oh, yeah. That's what I thought.

My knee felt ya comin' a mile away, sport.

There is goes again.

"Let's not pretend. There has been nothing but opinion on any of these blogs from the right, left or whatever point of view JWCOOP represents."

Gee, don't you have a firm grasp of the obvious.

I've been tellin' ya that for 4 weeks, little fella. It's about time ya gave up the ghost.

The difference is that Hoffer consistently gave you facts while you gave him feces and my opinion is intelligent, informed and factually-based.

You, yourselves and bubbles on the other hand, not so much.

Always a pleasure.
 

jw you haven't laid out a fact yet. In fact when asked to on earlier threads you said you didn't need to prove or disprove your points...something about it being the American way

You are a joke. In fact I read your posts before I read the funny papers.
 

As for the who's stupid question take a look at the latest Gallup poll results.

A new Gallup Poll, conducted Dec. 6-9, finds 37% of Americans approving of the job George W. Bush is doing as president, an IMPROVEMENT from his recent scores in the low 30s. Meanwhile, 22% of Americans approve of Congress, essentially unchanged from last month.

At the time of last year's midterm elections, when voters transferred partisan control of Congress from the Republicans to the Democrats, 26% of Americans approved of Congress. After a brief "honeymoon period" at the beginning of the year, and nearly a year after the Democrats took control, Americans' views of Congress are no more positive (and are actually a bit more NEGATIVE) than at the tail end of Republican rule.

So JW...the survey is fact. Bush actually seems to be improving in the view of the US. The Pelosi/Reid coalition seems to be in a continued free fall offering the Country nothing positive. 22% seem to think their leadership is doing a good job... 1 in 5. GW's rating is 68% higher.

So now what is the definition of stupid?

Always a pleasure little fella.
 

Bush has paid the price of standing upon principles, not the latest poll, ala Slick Willy. He is hated by the left-wing elitists because in their own self-importance, cannot believe that he whipped their precious little Gore-Kerry twin pack. And has kept America from attack since 9/11. You will never read about the low unemployment (lower than any time during Slick Willie's years), continually growing economy, or any good news in Iraq in their papers, or of course, their beloved NPR!
 

bubba said...

"Obviously Russell is a far-left kook so he should have no problem fitting right in with Shumlin, Symington, and company. Funny, no mention of any work experience in the private sector. Oh well, guess that's a plus in liberal circles!"

Well, if by "liberal circles" you mean the majority of the voters in the State of Vermont, bubbles, ya just be on to something for a change.

One look at the composition of the State Legislature should tell ya just how persuasive Vermonters find your ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin' nitwit take on things to be.

As for your idiotic private sector mantra, remind us again just what the source of Jiminy Cricket's extensive private sector experience and expertise was again?

That's what I thought.

While I usually refrain from quoting the lunatic fringe likes of the late, unlamented Henry Hyde but when speaking to his gop colleagues in Congress about term limits, Hyde said "Nobody goes to a surgeon for treatment of a life-threatening condition on themselves or their family and says, "I hope you've only been at this for six years or less."

You're a dinosaur, bubbles. Go find yourself a tar pit and fall in it.

Always a pleasure.
 

Bubba, I agree. I believe what the poll reflects is that the average rational American has realized the Dems are all talk. They made big assertions and promises then delivered nothing.

Much like the traffic on this board, it is easy to point out all the issues. It is much tougher when you are in the driver's seat and have to make and be accountable for decisions. I suspect few if any of the most opinionated in this crowd have actually been in a position of real responsibility.

It would actually be interesting to understand the demographics of the posters.
 

"One look at the composition of the State Legislature should tell ya just how persuasive Vermonters find your ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin' nitwit take on things to be."

I have looked. It is a fine collection of unqualified dairy farmers, shop owners and retired school teachers. A fine crowd to deal with the real issues facing the state.

In a state where we require beauticians and tatto artists to be licensed and qualified we accept a complete lack of qualification to be a member of the legislature.

I think if you look at the accomplishments of the group last year in Montpelier it says it all. Nothing was put forward and nothing was accomplished. What a waste of taxpayer money. The real Vermonters you reference apparently prefer the under qualified. Perhaps its less threatening to you.
 

Anonymous said...

"jw you haven't laid out a fact yet. In fact when asked to on earlier threads you said you didn't need to prove or disprove your points...something about it being the American way"

Apart from the fact that you, yourselves and bubbles don't know any and haven't cited any, ya mean.

"You are a joke. In fact I read your posts before I read the funny papers."

Funny thing. Since we met, I don't even look at the funny papers. I just don't feel the need.

Always a pleasure.
 

bubba said...

"Hey Poop, you pathetic fruitcake, Hoffer DOESN'T WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND anymore, didn't that sink into your pointy little head when he STOPPED blogging after you started kissing up to him?"

Gee, I'm crushed. How ever will I go on?

Bubbles, my boy, if I've done anything to make him, you or anyone else think I give a damn about being liked by posters on a damn BFP Blog, you have my most deep and profound apologies.

I don't claim to speak for anyone but myself and the less the likes o'you think of me, the better I feel about myself and the rest of the world.

I cited Hoffer as an example of someone who provides facts to bolster his assertions while the likes of you and sporticus spew your fact-free coalition of the clueless crapolla like 99 percent of all wing-nuts do on blog message boards.

That's what you were doin' when I got here 4 weeks ago. That's what you're doin' now. The only change is that now ya try do it to me and while the Hoffers of the world try to reason with the likes o'you, I just shred your sorry butts.

I don't argue with the clueless likes o'you. I know better. You're not here to state your case or to argue in good faith. I doubt ya do anything in good faith.

So, given the fact that you have neither the capacity or the inclination to reason or be reasoned with, I just smack ya and watch ya cry like all bullies do when they get a dose of their own.

After all, at the end of the day, you're dumb, you're scum and frankly, I wouldn't piss on ya if you were on fire.

I'm sure you understand.

Always a pleasure.
 

Anonymous said...

"Bubba, I agree. I believe what the poll reflects is that the average rational American has realized the Dems are all talk. They made big assertions and promises then delivered nothing."

Gee, sporticus agrees with bubbles. What are the odds.

First of all, little fella, what the fu@k would the ignorant, ill-informed, UnAmerican, illegitimate trash likes o'you know about the will of the average rational American?

That's what I thought.

Secondly, for the sake of argument, let's assume you're accurately citing the Gallup Poll you reference. I'm part of the 78 percent of the Country that's unhappy with Congress, nitwit. That doesn't mean I support Bush or any other gop scumbag, ya dolt.

As for the Dem Congress failing to deliver, in other words, they haven't been able to overcome Shrub and the gop Senate Minority's veto.

The Rules and Regs of the US Senate remain the Rules and Regs of the US Senate, shmendrik. They don't evaporate just 'cause the joint's under new, qualified and competent management no matter what Dick Cheney says, schmuckles.

As disappointed as I am with Pelosi and Reid, the biggest problem with Congress is that it's still got too many gops in it who don't give a damn about this Country, Its Troops and are more loyal to the nitwit in chief and their corrupt, intellectually and morally bankrupt party than they are to the Constitution of the United States of America.

Unless and until the gops in Congress start putting Country before Cretin, there's just not enough Dems to override the madness of king george until January of '09.

I'll remind you that 9/11 happened on Shrub's watch and smack dab in the middle of a 12-year gop reign of error in Congress, clueless.

Moreover, if the American People supported Bush, his unwarranted and unjustifiable War in Iraq, his even more unwarranted and unjustifiable War in Iran and his policies in general, the gops would still have control of Congress.

They don't. They don't. They don't.

"Much like the traffic on this board, it is easy to point out all the issues. It is much tougher when you are in the driver's seat and have to make and be accountable for decisions. I suspect few if any of the most opinionated in this crowd have actually been in a position of real responsibility."

Yeah, but you're still allowed to post your lunatic fringe nonsense - LIVE from the heart of your mama's basement, little fella.

Nobody ever said you're not entitled to your ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged, knuckle-draggin' nitwit opinions.

There's room for all God's Creatures - Great and you.

It would actually be interesting to understand the demographics of the posters.

Like I keep tellin' ya, little buddy. Adult Basic Education - Look into it.

6:08 PM, December 12, 2007
 

bubba said...

"Bush has paid the price of standing upon principles, not the latest poll, ala Slick Willy."

How's that workin' out for him?

How's it workin' out for the Country?

That's what I thought.

Bush has no principles.

Kanye West was only half right.

It's not that Bush doesn't care about Black People.

Bush doesn't give a damn about anybody.

"He is hated by the left-wing elitists because in their own self-importance, cannot believe that he whipped their precious little Gore-Kerry twin pack."

No the majority of the American People hate him because he's the most incompetent, corrupt, illegitimate President in US History and the Country and the World will be lucky to survive him and the damage he's done.

"And has kept America from attack since 9/11."

America was never attacked like 9/11 before 9/11.

Yeah, and the Yankees haven't won a World Series since Bill Clinton was in the White House while the Red Sox have won 2 in a 4 year span after an '86 year drought.

Perhaps you've heard about it.

There's no more evidence that Bush has made us safer than there is that he's gonna be the Red Sox All-Star SS and lead off hitter for the next 15years.

To the contrary. The World is a more dangerous place than it was the day he took office.

This was the a deadliest year in Iraq for US Troops before Halloween.

As much as I love the Red Sox, there is no aspect of American Life that has improved since Bush was installed on the Throne.

Not a one.

"You will never read about the low unemployment (lower than any time during Slick Willie's years), continually growing economy, or any good news in Iraq in their papers, or of course, their beloved NPR!"

They don't deal in fiction. You've gotta watch fox noise for that nonsense.

Always a pleasure.
 

It's sad how confused you are.
 

It's Thurs morning and I just heard Freyne's Q & A with Gov Jim Douglas - it's amazing how the Gov is sidestepping his flap with Bobby Sand and trying to portray as a coming together to move forward.

He actually says he wants to write the last Paragraph to this story... I'll bet he does!

He tried to take a serious issue and use it politically - AND it backfired on him.

Bobby Sand has not changed how he is going about his job - the Governor flip flopped on his position because he jumped into the fray without getting all the facts.
 

What don't ya get now, little fella?
 

Douglas figured since Bush wasn't using the title, he would become "The Decider." Same result too. Choose the people you aspire to be a little more carefully Jimmy.
 

Anonymous said...

"As for the who's stupid question take a look at the latest Gallup poll results."

Hey, if you wanna make an ass outta yourself yet again, far be it from me to stand in your way.

"A new Gallup Poll, conducted Dec. 6-9, finds 37% of Americans approving of the job George W. Bush is doing as president, an IMPROVEMENT from his recent scores in the low 30s."

Gee, so he's gone from slightly more than 2 out of 3 people thinking he's psychotic, incompetent trash to slightly less than 2 out of 3 folks thinkin' he's psychotic, incompetent trash.

No wonder you're so excited, little fella.

I'm sure the recent revelations that he's been lying his ass off about Iran as well as Iraq and had evidence of CIA torture parties destroyed despite being directed by the Courts not to do so is just gonna make his popularity go through the roof, too, little fella.

"Meanwhile, 22% of Americans approve of Congress, essentially unchanged from last month."

"At the time of last year's midterm elections, when voters transferred partisan control of Congress from the Republicans to the Democrats, 26% of Americans approved of Congress. After a brief "honeymoon period" at the beginning of the year, and nearly a year after the Democrats took control, Americans' views of Congress are no more positive (and are actually a bit more NEGATIVE) than at the tail end of Republican rule."

Well, since I'm sure that you're quoting the poll you cite as written as opposed to merely characterizing said poll with your ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest opinion, I'm sure you'll be pleased as punch to produce the poll you cite and demonstrate where it says precisely what you say it says, little fella.

That's what I thought.

Nice try. No sale.

So, folks are unhappy and frustrated that the Dems haven't been able to erase 6 years of criminal incompetence and corruption in less than one year when Bush and Congressional gops don't give a damn about the Country, its Troops, the American People as they keep proving that they're more loyal to Bush and their pathetic party than they are to the US Constitution and the American People as they keep filibustering in the Senate, refusing to bargain in good faith and allowing Bush to veto everything Congress sends him, eh?

Count me amongst 'em. Does that make me pro-gop?

That's what I thought.

How many Dems are in the White House?

How many Gops are in Congress?

Which is the greater number?

That's what I thought.

Mr Apple. Meet Mr Orange.

Congress is an Institution comprised of 535 People from both parties with the Dems currently holding slim majorities in both bodies.

The President is a single incompetent, illegitimate trash Gop Schmuck.

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

"So JW...the survey is fact."

So feel free to cite the pertinent passages, little fella.

No, it's a fact that it's a survey. Big difference.

"Bush actually seems to be improving in the view of the US."

He is, eh? He'd kinda have to be, sport.

Has any other President in US History been as low in the polls for as long as Bush, little fella?

He's been batting under .100 for 3 seasons as it is.

That's what I thought.

The Pelosi/Reid coalition seems to be in a continued free fall offering the Country nothing positive. 22% seem to think their leadership is doing a good job... 1 in 5. GW's rating is 68% higher."

And Duncan Hunter's support has more than doubled, little fella. He's gone from less than 1 percent in the polls to 2 percent.

You said the poll was a measure of the popularity of Congress. Where does it say it's a measure of the Pelosi/Reid Coalition?

That's what I thought.

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

"So now what is the definition of stupid?"

Your comment.

Again, Congress is an Institution comprised of 535 People from both parties with the Dems currently holding slim majorities in both bodies.

The President is a single incompetent, illegitimate trash Gop Schmuck.

Big Difference.

Always a pleasure, little fella.
 

"Has any other President in US History been as low in the polls for as long as Bush, little fella?"

Liberal hero Harry Truman, last poll in 1951, favorable rating: 23%.

Always a pleasure, fool.
 

Just a couple of the headlines from today's press....for your reading entertainment:

Democrats Blaming Each Other For Failures

By Jonathan Weisman and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers

Thursday, December 13, 2007; A01
When Democrats took control of Congress in January, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) pledged to jointly push an ambitious agenda to counter 12 years of Republican control.
Now, as Congress struggles to adjourn for Christmas, relations between House Democrats and their colleagues in the Senate have devolved into finger-pointing.


From the Wall Street Journal….

Intraparty Feuds Dog Democrats, Stall Congress
BY DAVID ROGERS


WASHINGTON -- Democrats took control of Congress last January promising a "new direction." A year later, the image that haunts them most is one symbolizing no direction at all: gridlock.


From USAToday…

Our view on war in Iraq: Surge's success holds chance to seize the moment in Iraq.

Instead, Democrats are lost in time


From THE HILL.com…

Dems Cave on Spending
By Alexander Bolton

December 13, 2007
Senate and House Democrats backed down Wednesday from a spending showdown with President Bush.
The Democrats’ capitulation Wednesday on the total domestic spending level is the latest instance of Bush prevailing on a major policy showdown.


Facts, facts and more facts ....hmmm.

Who is pleased with who's performance? It seems the libs are turning out to be more talk than action. I guess its tough when you have to be accountable for your actions.
 

"I guess its tough when you have to be accountable for your actions"

Yeah, who was it that started this war? Oh yeah, Bush and the GOP controlled Congress. And who has brought us the largest government ever and the highest deficit ever. Oh yeah, Bush and the GOP controlled Congress. It really is tough when you have to be accountable for your own actions.
 

"It really is tough when you have to be accountable for your own actions."

You are exactly right and in that statement is the fundamental difference in the Parties. GW, Cheney, and all the other Repubs you don't like have made decisions, have had the courage of their convictions and have answered for the consequences of their actions. You may not like these guys but you have to admit they have been consistent in their actions. The Dems on the other hand found it fun to take pot shots at the Administration, talked a big game to get into a leadership role and now that they have to do something, can not. They have turned on themselves and have brought the Congress to its knees. It's not Pelosi's fault it's Reid....no no no it's not Reid, it's Pelosi...no no no it's someone else. C'mon.

That is why in an environment when they could shine and lock in control for years they have blown it because they are acting like the amateurs they are. You see it in the approval ratings posted earlier.

Accountability is tough.
 

"Lke I keep tellin' ya, little buddy. Adult Basic Education - Look into it. "

Thanks for the good advice JW. I am filling out my application now to your alma mater: The Jethro Bodine School fer Higher Edekation. I hope to follow in your footsteps majoring in 5th Grade. I understand you still hold the record for having repeated it 8 times.
 

"now that they have to do something, can not"

Yeah Einstein (p.s. "cannot" is one word). That's because Bush vetoes (or threatens to) every meaningful piece of legislation the Dems put forward.

I'm not too worried though. After the 2008 elections, the GOP dinsaurs will be gone and a new era can begin. FINALLY!
 

Anonymous said...
"It really is tough when you have to be accountable for your own actions."

"You are exactly right and in that statement is the fundamental difference in the Parties. GW, Cheney, and all the other Repubs you don't like have made decisions, have had the courage of their convictions and have answered for the consequences of their actions."

They have, eh? Who? When? How? Where?

All they've done is steal elections, ignore intelligence warnings, lie, stonewall, obstruct justice, and start unnecessary and unwarranted wars that get other people's kids, spouses, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles and friends killed and maimed for nothing before sticking them in the likes of Building 18 if they were lucky enough to make it that far.

All that happened on this Schmuck's watch, douche bag.

They've wrecked the economy, squandered the surplus, and left this Country hated around the World.

There is not one aspect of American Life that is better for their actions and as long as they remain above ground, they will not have taken responsibility or held accountable for their actions.

At least Hitler had the decency to kill himself. It's a sad day for this Country when the President of the United States cedes the moral high ground to the fookin' fuhrer, but nevertheless, that's what it's come to.

No honest, intelligent, decent, patriotic American can possibly support this Administration.

Anyone who does is none of those things.

Am I goin' too fast for ya, punk?

I'll say it again. Anyone, Anywhere who supports this Administration and its policies is Scum.

Go cheney yourself, douche bag.

Dismissed.
 

"That's because Bush vetoes (or threatens to) every meaningful piece of legislation the Dems put forward."

Threats stop the powerful Dems? Wow... if it's that meaningful, overturn the veto.

Apparently it can't (did I use that word correctly?)be too meaningful if they can't find the few extra votes they need for an override. I thought everyone disagreed with GW. Should be easy but apparently not, huh.

Your pal,

Einstein
 

Anonymous said...
That's because Bush vetoes (or threatens to) every meaningful piece of legislation the Dems put forward.

"Threats stop the powerful Dems? Wow... if it's that meaningful, overturn the veto."

No, nitwit, the Rules of the Senate and simple arithmetic do.

Once again, punk, as long as the gops in Congress are more loyal to Bush than the Constitution of the United States and the American People, the Dems simply don't have the numbers to override Bush's vetoes.

If you knew your ass from your elbow or had a frickin' clue about the subject matter at hand or anything we deal with on this board, you'd know that.

Moreover, in addition to being ignorant, ill-informed and fundamentally-dishonest trash on your best day, you're pure scum on a human level.

And you wonder why Jeffords said stuff it to Fascism and Leahy and the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12-7 to issue Contempt Citations to Rove and Bolten.

Clearly, Bush and the Gops in Congress have no honor or integrity.

In the Spirit of the Season, it's high time Leahy ripped their frickin' heads off and pissed down their necks.

Always a pleasure.
 

"I just shred your sorry butts."

Simply calling names is not "shredding" anyone.
 

Formula for a JW post, on any blog, on any subject:

1. Type the following:

"Nice try. No sale. Nitwit. Likes 'o you. Clueless. I-don't-have-to-state-any-facts-because-you're-wrong. Schmendrik. Always a pleasure. Dismissed."

2. Repeat the above 5 times but scramble the order.

3. Hit "send."

4. Ask mommy for more milk before bed.
 

Anonymous said...

"Formula for a JW post, on any blog, on any subject:"

Hey, why bother baitin' the hook when you're gonna jump right in the boat, sport.

When it comes to shreddin' your sorry butt you certainly do make my job easy for me, little fella.

I appreciate that.

Always a pleasure.
 

We now know that there have been at least three incidents of Colchester police giving fellow officers free passes when they got caught driving drunk. Instead of a drunk driving charge, the drunk officers were given a free ride home.

Funny, Governor Douglas seems quiet on this one.

I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law.

Shouldn't he be calling for all drunk driving cop cases in Colchester to be referred directly to the Public Safety Commissioner?

I'm disappointed with Gov. Douglas. His "politics first" style is becoming too obvious to ignore or forgive. Especially --such as in the area of drug issues --when it hurts real people.

Bobby Sands, on the other hand, has been acting like a responsible grown up. The same goes for TJ Donovan. Donovan seems to be handling the Colchester police situation directly, but with dignity and restraint. He'd make a good governor.

I feel for the police officers. Their job is stressful on many levels. It would be hard to arrest a friend or fellow officer. Especially knowing that such an arrest would perhaps subject a police officer (and the department) to extra (and sometimes mean-spirited) ridicule.

Driving drunk can be deadly. It's far more serious than possessing or smoking marijuana. But I'd still favor court diversion and job probation for first offenders.

Court diversion isn't a free pass. It's an opportunity to take responsibility for what you've done, and earn a second chance.

Douglas seems to want to end the marijuana discussion because it isn't going his way politically. But he doesn't want to take responsibility for his transgressions or earn a second chance. He wants the free ride. I can't respect that.
 

You posted the exact same rant on the Freyne blog verbatim. Is your opinion that important?
 

It is to you, evidently.

I certainly come across my share of wing-nut-nitwits in my travels, little fella, but I've never encountered anyone so obsessed with googling the opinions of other people while bitchin' about them expressin' those opinions until I stumbled over the likes o'you, sport.

What's up with that?

Why are you so consumed with limiting the speech of others, little fella?
 

At least he actually has an opinion, whether it's good or bad, and expresses it in a clear, coherent, non-confrontational way. You should ask him/her for lessons.
 

"I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law.I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law."

It is disappointing. What has happenend in Colchester is equally wrong.
 

JW...your postings (2:53PM and 4:50PM) from yesterday speak volumes about you.

Regardless of your politics, you are truly distrubed and need serious help. Please redirect your blog postings to the APA.
 

They do, eh? Feel free to refresh my memory, little fella.

Your response shows how little you've got going for you in every sense of the word.

You're dumb. You're scum. You're simply an ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin', shrub-shillin' nitwit on your best day.

You're not havin' your best day.

Dismissed.
 

Anonymous said...

"At least he actually has an opinion, whether it's good or bad, and expresses it in a clear, coherent, non-confrontational way. You should ask him/her for lessons."

What do you need me to draw you a map about this time, little fella?

That's the tie that binds all you loons. None of ya can take a punch.

You have an opinion, too, little fella. It's just an ignorant, ill-informed, factually-challenged one.

Keep postin'. By all means, don't quit 'cause your losin'.

Always a pleasure.
 

"Your response shows how little you've got going for you in every sense of the word."

Actually it show my deep liberal concern for your mental well being. I am willing to see my tax dollars used to fund your journey back towards mental stability.

Get some help.
 

Who is got the balls to run against Jim Douglas?
 

Who cares? We need a new Attorney General - ASAP!
 

Anonymous said...

"Who cares? We need a new Attorney General - ASAP!"

Because........?
 

Anonymous said...

"Who is got the balls to run against Jim Douglas?"

So far, Polina has the stones to run against Les Nessman.

Actually, Matt Dunne has 'em. Jeb Spaulding has 'em, too.

If the Dems can come up with the candidate and the cash, Jiminy Cricket can be beaten.
 

"If the Dems can come up with the candidate and the cash, Jiminy Cricket can be beaten."

Oh, you mean if one party comes up with an attractive candidate and throws in lots of money, they can beat the opposing party's candidate? Really?

Duh. You must be one of those high-priced political consultants.

Care to get a little more specific about WHICH candidate and HOW MUCH money?
 

Anonymous said...

"If you've got nothing to offer but this anonymous sanctimonious slop of yours, stuff a sock in it."

Look above ya, little fella. I already did.

Secondly, ya gonna tell me Douglas won't spend a small fortune tryin' to keep his job, pinhead.

I'll take my chances with your boy on a level playing field.

Oy, you're fookin' thick.

"That is true projection."

No, that would be this comment of yours, punk.

Always a pleasure.
 

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Way ahead of ya, schmuck.

I knew you were an ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest, UnAmerican sack o'shite without a legitimately patriotic bone in your body before you even knew I existed.

Keep at it, little fella. In a year or two you just might graduate to "I'm rubber your glue" yet.

Always a pleasure.
 

"I knew you were an ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest, UnAmerican sack o'shite without a legitimately patriotic bone in your body before you even knew I existed."

Of course. You know ALL about me. You know everything about everyone here. Right. That's because you're omniscient. You know everything and don't have to prove anything. Everyone on here who doesn't agree with you is a conservative Republican. Just because they don't goosestep to your exact beliefs and sarcastic, shitty tone? I'm sure many of the posters on this blog are Democratic voters like me. But, no, according to you, anyone who doesn't hold your exact view on every issue (whatever that view may be, since we don't know until you spew a post) must be a right-winger. Guess what, douche? You're wrong. Congratulations!

If anyone who is to the right of you on any issue is "an ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest, UnAmerican sack o'shite without a legitimately patriotic bone in [his/her] body," does that mean the Progs to your left can say the same thing about you, little fella?

Douche.
 

I knew you were an ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest, UnAmerican sack o'shite without a legitimately patriotic bone in your body before you even knew I existed.

"Of course. You know ALL about me. You know everything about everyone here. Right. That's because you're omniscient."

I know that there's nothin' to know, little fella.

Half an hour of skimmin' the posts of you, yourselves and bubba more than prove that when it comes to smarts, there's simply no there, there.

Your brains rattle around in your heads like a BB in a boxcar.

As for the omniscient bit, that's sweet of ya to say but you said it, not me.

Still, unlike you, I know which end is up and what day it is so I can see how you'd get that impression.

Let me know if I'm goin' too fast for ya, little fella.

"You know everything and don't have to prove anything. Everyone on here who doesn't agree with you is a conservative Republican."

Like I keep tellin' ya, little fella. You keep provin' you don't know your ass from your elbow while I just point it out and give ya the occasional nudge towards the grave you've dug for you and the rest of yourselves.

"Just because they don't goosestep to your exact beliefs and sarcastic, shitty tone?

In other words, you coalition of the clueless cretins don't like it when somebody calls ya on your BS and smacks ya back.

Gee, you can imagine how badly I feel about that.

Well, actually, I'm sure you can't, but you're gonna have to try to do it anyhow.

"I'm sure many of the posters on this blog are Democratic voters like me. But, no, according to you, anyone who doesn't hold your exact view on every issue (whatever that view may be, since we don't know until you spew a post) must be a right-winger."

Nah, but you, your anonymous, invisible little friends and bubbles are.

Gimme a break.

You're a Dem like I'm the Middle Weight Champion of the World, little fella.

All I see you do - when you're not stealin' my lines and googling jwcoop10 to tell me stories about my life - is trash Symington and Shumlin as you agree with bubbles and sing the praises of Jiminy Cricket and the Bush Administration.

You may not be as whacked as bubbles but you're within walking distance.

Then again, at least he makes an effort to distinguish himself and he's not pretending to be a moderate anything let alone a moderate Dem, sport.

The likes o'you on the other hand, not so much.

"If anyone who is to the right of you on any issue is "an ignorant, ill-informed, fundamentally-dishonest, UnAmerican sack o'shite without a legitimately patriotic bone in [his/her] body," does that mean the Progs to your left can say the same thing about you, little fella?"

Sure. I don't support Bush, the War in Iraq, the War he wanted to start with Iran 'til he got busted for lyin' about that, too or the lousy job he's doin' on everything else under the Sun so it'd be almost as silly of them to say it as it is for the likes o'you, little fella, but they can say whatever they want. I don't give a damn.

The facts aren't doin' them any more favors than they're doin' the likes of you, little fella.

As for this other posters slop you keep spewin', just who and where the hell are they? I've been here a month and all I've seen is me, bubbles, Hoffer and maybe one or two others.

Fair enough. That takes care of the fingers on one hand. Apart from that, there's virtually nothin' but anonymous posters and probably half of them are your anonymous, imaginary little friends, sport.

Again, I don't give a damn if somebody posts as Brittany999, sport. At least they're making the effort to differentiate themselves from everyone else.

No matter what their views or their politics, if somebody can't make that much of an effort, why should I give a damn what they think?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.
 

I am a Dem. And you're an ass.

Tough break for ya, little fella.
 

Anonymous said...
To quote from JWCoop10:

"...because a couple of Dem Reps couldn't make it."

"Lose the Ms Nice Guy shtick, Gaye and get a Dem Chair and somebody who knows what they're doing like Sue Minter in a key role."

"JWCoop10 - you are a complete idiot."

Again with the sweet talk, little fella. Knock it off. You're gonna make me blush.

There were a couple of other Dems besides Sue Minter that weren't there, shmendrik. And if memory serves, they were in VT but absent for other reasons.

She wasn't the only one absent, little fella.

Moreover, Jiminy Cricket picked Jon Anderson to replace Francis Brooks when he became Sgt At Arms and replaced the Deer Jacker.

Anderson voted with Douglas and against the interests and the wishes of the City of Montpelier.

Again, the point being that Symington should have had a vote count and the necessary people in place to make sure the veto could not be sustained.

Besides, unlike you, Minter knows her stuff about transportation.

Get your facts straight or stuff a sock in it.

As for VY, they're not just another business so spare me the poor, poor persecuted business community song and dance, punk.

You don't want VY to pay for Education, fine. Let 'em pick up the tab for the Corrections Budget.

Perhaps you haven't heard, Corrections is up 10 percent this year. That's a hell of a lot more than Education, little fella.

So, how's that evidence hunt comin' google boy?

You're gonna have to do more than steal my lines to class up your crap, douche bag.

Always a pleasure.
 

Anonymous said...

"I am a Dem. And you're an ass."

Yeah, and I'm Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

Sure, ya are, schmuck. Sure, ya are.

Peddle that slop to bubbles, punk. Nobody else is buyin' it.

Ya got bupkis, bozo. Bupkis.

Tough break, little fella.

Always a pleasure.
 

Jw, shut up.

So, Chairman Stalin, please remind of the date of the Vt. Dem. Pty. meeting when you were elected Dogma Czar and Minister of Membership?

Thought so.

You probably don't even pay dues to the State Party.

It must really frustrate you that you don't get to decide what the Dem. Party dogma is, and that you don't get to decide who's in and who's out. You're a wannabe.

I'm a member. Tough for you.

Ass.
 

Anonymous said...

"Jw, shut up."

Oh, yeah. That's gonna do it.

"So, Chairman Stalin, please remind of the date of the Vt. Dem. Pty. meeting when you were elected Dogma Czar and Minister of Membership?

Thought so.

You probably don't even pay dues to the State Party."

I don't. I just contribute to their campaign coffers from time to time, so you're half-right. Congrats on finally making contact and mustering up your first foul tip, little fella.

I'm a Dem because they're the only viable alternative to the gops. My allegiance to the Democratic Party begins and ends there.

"It must really frustrate you that you don't get to decide what the Dem. Party dogma is, and that you don't get to decide who's in and who's out. You're a wannabe."

"I'm a member. Tough for you."

Do me a favor, little fella. Remind me to tell you how much sleep that's costin' me when I wake up from my pre-Jets/Pats nap.

Let's examine the record, shall we?

For the month that I've been here, you've constantly sang the praises of the likes of Jim Douglas, the Vermont Republican Caucus, The Bush Administration and The Gop slime minority of the US Congress as you've constantly whined about Shumlin and Symington and the State and Federal Dem Caucuses when you're not givin' your boy bubbles an amen every time he belches up some nitwit nonsense claim yet you still expect me to believe you're a loyal, dues-paying member of the Democratic Party in good standing, eh?

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

For the sake of argument, let's assume you're actually telling the truth about being a loyal, dues-paying member of the Democratic Party in good standing while simultaneously supporting Douglas, Bush and their policies, trashing Symington and Shumlin, the Dem Congress in DC and givin' bubbles an amen every 30seconds or so.

While I have no doubts that you're delusional enough to actually believe that to be the case, the reality of the situation demonstrates that you're just plain delusional.

You're not paying dues, little fella. You're payin' fines.

Always a pleasure.

How's that evidence hunt to support your claim that Exxon really has paid its fine for the 3/24/89 Exxon Valdez oil spill clean up coming, little fella?
 

"For the month that I've been here, you've constantly sang the praises of the likes of Jim Douglas, the Vermont Republican Caucus, The Bush Administration and The Gop slime minority of the US Congress as you've constantly whined about Shumlin and Symington and the State and Federal Dem Caucuses when you're not givin' your boy bubbles an amen every time he belches up some nitwit nonsense claim yet you still expect me to believe you're a loyal, dues-paying member of the Democratic Party in good standing, eh?"

Apparently, you can't read, or you're just easily confused. I wouldn't be surprised by either.

Let's check your record:

1. I've occasionally defended Douglas from mindless partisan attacks, but I've never "sang (sic)his praises." 1 point loss for you.

2. I've never sung the praises of the Vt. Republican Congress. Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. 2 point loss for you.

3. I've never sung the praises of the Bush Administration. Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. In fact, I despise the Bush Administration. But you're such a black and white thinker that anyone who questions liberal dogma must be a Bush supporter? Wrong. 3 point loss for you.

4. I've never sung the praises of the "GOP slime minority of the US Congress." Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. Wrong again. 4 point loss for you.

5. Yep, I have whined about S&S. They've been wrong on a number of issues since they took over. I have the right to disagree with the party leadership when I think they're wrong. Gov. Dean did so as well when he was Gov. But I'll give you this one, just for kicks. 1 point for you.

So far, you're losing 1 to 4.

6. I have not whined about the "State and Federal Dem Caucuses." Show me the posting to the contrary. Thought so. Wrong again. Another point loss for you.

Now you're down 1 to 5 with your incorrect statements.

7. I agree with Bubba? Not. I disagree with him on about 99% of his stuff. Show me the posts where I agree with him. Thought so. Wrong again. The only things I agree with him about are: 1) that this Legislature is anti-business, and 2) that you are an ass.

Game over. You lose.

Dismissed.
 

Anonymous said...

"For the month that I've been here, you've constantly sang the praises of the likes of Jim Douglas, the Vermont Republican Caucus, The Bush Administration and The Gop slime minority of the US Congress as you've constantly whined about Shumlin and Symington and the State and Federal Dem Caucuses when you're not givin' your boy bubbles an amen every time he belches up some nitwit nonsense claim yet you still expect me to believe you're a loyal, dues-paying member of the Democratic Party in good standing, eh?"

"Let's check your record:"

"1. I've occasionally defended Douglas from mindless partisan attacks, but I've never "sang (sic)his praises." 1 point loss for you."

Ah, so it was another anonymous poster, eh?

Nice try. Ya might wanna look up the word "Occasionally," little fella. Ya see, if it happens a lot, it's not really happening only "occasionally.

"2. I've never sung the praises of the Vt. Republican Congress. Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. 2 point loss for you."

Ah, so it was another anonymous poster, eh? Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

"3. I've never sung the praises of the Bush Administration. Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. In fact, I despise the Bush Administration. But you're such a black and white thinker that anyone who questions liberal dogma must be a Bush supporter? Wrong. 3 point loss for you."

Ah, so it was another anonymous poster, eh? Sure thing, schmuck.

"4. I've never sung the praises of the "GOP slime minority of the US Congress." Find the posting to the contrary. Thought so. Wrong again. 4 point loss for you."

Ah, so it was another anonymous poster, eh?

5. Yep, I have whined about S&S. They've been wrong on a number of issues since they took over. I have the right to disagree with the party leadership when I think they're wrong. Gov. Dean did so as well when he was Gov. But I'll give you this one, just for kicks. 1 point for you.

Gee, an honest answer. Perhaps there's hope for you yet, little fella.

"6. I have not whined about the "State and Federal Dem Caucuses." Show me the posting to the contrary. Thought so. Wrong again. Another point loss for you."

Ah, I spoke too soon. No hope. No sale.

"7. I agree with Bubba? Not. I disagree with him on about 99% of his stuff. Show me the posts where I agree with him. Thought so. Wrong again."

Ah, so it was another anonymous poster, eh?

"The only things I agree with him about are: 1) that this Legislature is anti-business, and 2) that you are an ass."

In other words, you agree with bubbles, eh?

Another honest answer. Sort of.

Nice try.

Thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for ya.

Dismissed.
 

You can't find any postings by me that support your claims. You lose.
 

Ask and ye shall receive, little fella.

I'd give ya more but I'm just too damned lazy to change threads.

So, is this where ya blame it on the other anonymous posters and go off about my role in the War on Christmas or are ya gonna finally grow a pair, grow up and fess up?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure.

Knock yourself out, little fella.

---------------------------------------------


bubba said...
Why doesn't Vermont just legalize ALL drugs and pedophilia and start concentrating on serious stuff like trying to start a business without all of the ACT 250 permits or the newly-arrived Volvonistas approval? Sure would make it easier for Vermont judges. Don't worry about the kids, they're just going to move out of state anyways!

4:55 PM, December 11, 2007


Anonymous said...
"He acted stupidly because he's a gop"

"Sticking with people and policies that are fundamentally-dishonest, two-faced"

Please provide facts that support and prove these assertions. Otherwise please take your position in line with the 'coalition of clueless' you so frequently berate.

If there are fundmental dishonesty and two-faced actions they whould be proven with fact not half baked assertions.

I look forward to your ranting brillance little fella.

4:58 PM, December 11, 2007


Anonymous said...
Well said Bubba. All these rules just get in the way. After all, we are Vermonters and nobody should be telling us what to do unless of course it is the Progs helping us better redistribute our incomes from those fat cats to masses.

5:08 PM, December 11, 2007

Anonymous said...
It's all about perception isn't it. We all saw the same set of facts. You perceive he blew it. I perceive he did the right thing.

Deciding right and wrong after the fact is easy. He had to make a call based on available facts at the time and remain open-minded enough to adjust his position if newer facts come to light. He did and good for him. That's why VT respects and elects him.

I suspect if JD made the statement 'the sky is blue' there would be an outpouring against the statement just because he is a GOP. And as JW has already told us, GOP=Stupid(even though he has offered no proof just his slanted opinion).

Let's not pretend. There has been nothing but opinion on any of these blogs from the right, left or whatever point of view JWCOOP represents.

8:40 AM, December 12, 2007


Anonymous said...
jw you haven't laid out a fact yet. In fact when asked to on earlier threads you said you didn't need to prove or disprove your points...something about it being the American way

You are a joke. In fact I read your posts before I read the funny papers.

1:55 PM, December 12, 2007


bubba said...
Hey Poop, you pathetic fruitcake, Hoffer DOESN'T WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND anymore, didn't that sink into your pointy little head when he STOPPED blogging after you started kissing up to him?

2:04 PM, December 12, 2007


Anonymous said...
As for the who's stupid question take a look at the latest Gallup poll results.

A new Gallup Poll, conducted Dec. 6-9, finds 37% of Americans approving of the job George W. Bush is doing as president, an IMPROVEMENT from his recent scores in the low 30s. Meanwhile, 22% of Americans approve of Congress, essentially unchanged from last month.

At the time of last year's midterm elections, when voters transferred partisan control of Congress from the Republicans to the Democrats, 26% of Americans approved of Congress. After a brief "honeymoon period" at the beginning of the year, and nearly a year after the Democrats took control, Americans' views of Congress are no more positive (and are actually a bit more NEGATIVE) than at the tail end of Republican rule.

So JW...the survey is fact. Bush actually seems to be improving in the view of the US. The Pelosi/Reid coalition seems to be in a continued free fall offering the Country nothing positive. 22% seem to think their leadership is doing a good job... 1 in 5. GW's rating is 68% higher.

So now what is the definition of stupid?

Always a pleasure little fella.

2:08 PM, December 12, 2007


bubba said...
Bush has paid the price of standing upon principles, not the latest poll, ala Slick Willy. He is hated by the left-wing elitists because in their own self-importance, cannot believe that he whipped their precious little Gore-Kerry twin pack. And has kept America from attack since 9/11. You will never read about the low unemployment (lower than any time during Slick Willie's years), continually growing economy, or any good news in Iraq in their papers, or of course, their beloved NPR!

3:58 PM, December 12, 2007

Anonymous said...
As for the who's stupid question take a look at the latest Gallup poll results.

A new Gallup Poll, conducted Dec. 6-9, finds 37% of Americans approving of the job George W. Bush is doing as president, an IMPROVEMENT from his recent scores in the low 30s. Meanwhile, 22% of Americans approve of Congress, essentially unchanged from last month.

At the time of last year's midterm elections, when voters transferred partisan control of Congress from the Republicans to the Democrats, 26% of Americans approved of Congress. After a brief "honeymoon period" at the beginning of the year, and nearly a year after the Democrats took control, Americans' views of Congress are no more positive (and are actually a bit more NEGATIVE) than at the tail end of Republican rule.

So JW...the survey is fact. Bush actually seems to be improving in the view of the US. The Pelosi/Reid coalition seems to be in a continued free fall offering the Country nothing positive. 22% seem to think their leadership is doing a good job... 1 in 5. GW's rating is 68% higher.

So now what is the definition of stupid?

Always a pleasure little fella.

2:08 PM, December 12, 2007


bubba said...
Bush has paid the price of standing upon principles, not the latest poll, ala Slick Willy. He is hated by the left-wing elitists because in their own self-importance, cannot believe that he whipped their precious little Gore-Kerry twin pack. And has kept America from attack since 9/11. You will never read about the low unemployment (lower than any time during Slick Willie's years), continually growing economy, or any good news in Iraq in their papers, or of course, their beloved NPR!

3:58 PM, December 12, 2007
Anonymous said...
Bubba, I agree. I believe what the poll reflects is that the average rational American has realized the Dems are all talk. They made big assertions and promises then delivered nothing.

Much like the traffic on this board, it is easy to point out all the issues. It is much tougher when you are in the driver's seat and have to make and be accountable for decisions. I suspect few if any of the most opinionated in this crowd have actually been in a position of real responsibility.

It would actually be interesting to understand the demographics of the posters.

6:08 PM, December 12, 2007


Anonymous said...
"One look at the composition of the State Legislature should tell ya just how persuasive Vermonters find your ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin' nitwit take on things to be."

I have looked. It is a fine collection of unqualified dairy farmers, shop owners and retired school teachers. A fine crowd to deal with the real issues facing the state.

In a state where we require beauticians and tatto artists to be licensed and qualified we accept a complete lack of qualification to be a member of the legislature.

I think if you look at the accomplishments of the group last year in Montpelier it says it all. Nothing was put forward and nothing was accomplished. What a waste of taxpayer money. The real Vermonters you reference apparently prefer the under qualified. Perhaps its less threatening to you.

6:17 PM, December 12, 2007

bubba said...
"Has any other President in US History been as low in the polls for as long as Bush, little fella?"

Liberal hero Harry Truman, last poll in 1951, favorable rating: 23%

YA FAILED TO ADDRESS THE THAT LONG COMPONENT OF THE QUESTION, BUBBLES

ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

12:21 PM, December 13, 2007


Anonymous said...
Just a couple of the headlines from today's press....for your reading entertainment:

Democrats Blaming Each Other For Failures

By Jonathan Weisman and Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writers

Thursday, December 13, 2007; A01
When Democrats took control of Congress in January, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) pledged to jointly push an ambitious agenda to counter 12 years of Republican control.
Now, as Congress struggles to adjourn for Christmas, relations between House Democrats and their colleagues in the Senate have devolved into finger-pointing.


From the Wall Street Journal….

Intraparty Feuds Dog Democrats, Stall Congress
BY DAVID ROGERS


WASHINGTON -- Democrats took control of Congress last January promising a "new direction." A year later, the image that haunts them most is one symbolizing no direction at all: gridlock.


From USAToday…

Our view on war in Iraq: Surge's success holds chance to seize the moment in Iraq.

Instead, Democrats are lost in time


From THE HILL.com…

Dems Cave on Spending
By Alexander Bolton

December 13, 2007
Senate and House Democrats backed down Wednesday from a spending showdown with President Bush.
The Democrats’ capitulation Wednesday on the total domestic spending level is the latest instance of Bush prevailing on a major policy showdown.


Facts, facts and more facts ....hmmm.

Who is pleased with who's performance? It seems the libs are turning out to be more talk than action. I guess its tough when you have to be accountable for your actions.

1:07 PM, December 13, 2007


Anonymous said...
"I guess its tough when you have to be accountable for your actions"

Yeah, who was it that started this war? Oh yeah, Bush and the GOP controlled Congress. And who has brought us the largest government ever and the highest deficit ever. Oh yeah, Bush and the GOP controlled Congress. It really is tough when you have to be accountable for your own actions.

1:32 PM, December 13, 2007


Anonymous said...
"It really is tough when you have to be accountable for your own actions."

You are exactly right and in that statement is the fundamental difference in the Parties. GW, Cheney, and all the other Repubs you don't like have made decisions, have had the courage of their convictions and have answered for the consequences of their actions. You may not like these guys but you have to admit they have been consistent in their actions. The Dems on the other hand found it fun to take pot shots at the Administration, talked a big game to get into a leadership role and now that they have to do something, can not. They have turned on themselves and have brought the Congress to its knees. It's not Pelosi's fault it's Reid....no no no it's not Reid, it's Pelosi...no no no it's someone else. C'mon.

That is why in an environment when they could shine and lock in control for years they have blown it because they are acting like the amateurs they are. You see it in the approval ratings posted earlier.

Accountability is tough.

2:03 PM, December 13, 2007

HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW, SCHMUCK.

Anonymous said...
"That's because Bush vetoes (or threatens to) every meaningful piece of legislation the Dems put forward."

Threats stop the powerful Dems? Wow... if it's that meaningful, overturn the veto.

Apparently it can't (did I use that word correctly?)be too meaningful if they can't find the few extra votes they need for an override. I thought everyone disagreed with GW. Should be easy but apparently not, huh.

Your pal,

Einstein

4:18 PM, December 13, 2007

Anonymous said...
"I just shred your sorry butts."

Simply calling names is not "shredding" anyone.

8:36 PM, December 13, 2007

YEAH, I NOTICE THEY'VE BEEN COMING PRE-SHREDDED LATELY. THANKS LITTLE FELLA. YOU'RE ONE THOUGHTFUL MORON.

Anonymous said...
Formula for a JW post, on any blog, on any subject:

1. Type the following:

"Nice try. No sale. Nitwit. Likes 'o you. Clueless. I-don't-have-to-state-any-facts-because-you're-wrong. Schmendrik. Always a pleasure. Dismissed."

2. Repeat the above 5 times but scramble the order.

3. Hit "send."

4. Ask mommy for more milk before bed.

8:40 PM, December 13, 2007

Green Mountain 05401 said...
We now know that there have been at least three incidents of Colchester police giving fellow officers free passes when they got caught driving drunk. Instead of a drunk driving charge, the drunk officers were given a free ride home.

Funny, Governor Douglas seems quiet on this one.

I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law.

Shouldn't he be calling for all drunk driving cop cases in Colchester to be referred directly to the Public Safety Commissioner?

I'm disappointed with Gov. Douglas. His "politics first" style is becoming too obvious to ignore or forgive. Especially --such as in the area of drug issues --when it hurts real people.

Bobby Sands, on the other hand, has been acting like a responsible grown up. The same goes for TJ Donovan. Donovan seems to be handling the Colchester police situation directly, but with dignity and restraint. He'd make a good governor.

I feel for the police officers. Their job is stressful on many levels. It would be hard to arrest a friend or fellow officer. Especially knowing that such an arrest would perhaps subject a police officer (and the department) to extra (and sometimes mean-spirited) ridicule.

Driving drunk can be deadly. It's far more serious than possessing or smoking marijuana. But I'd still favor court diversion and job probation for first offenders.

Court diversion isn't a free pass. It's an opportunity to take responsibility for what you've done, and earn a second chance.

Douglas seems to want to end the marijuana discussion because it isn't going his way politically. But he doesn't want to take responsibility for his transgressions or earn a second chance. He wants the free ride. I can't respect that.

11:02 PM, December 13, 2007


Anonymous said...
You posted the exact same rant on the Freyne blog verbatim. Is your opinion that important?

12:42 AM, December 14, 2007

JWCoop10 said...

It is to you, evidently.

I certainly come across my share of wing-nut-nitwits in my travels, little fella, but I've never encountered anyone so obsessed with googling the opinions of other people while bitchin' about them expressin' those opinions until I stumbled over the likes o'you, sport.

What's up with that?

Why are you so consumed with limiting the speech of others, little fella?

6:46 AM, December 14, 2007

Anonymous said...
At least he actually has an opinion, whether it's good or bad, and expresses it in a clear, coherent, non-confrontational way. You should ask him/her for lessons.

7:11 AM, December 14, 2007

THEN WHY ARE YA TRYING TO STIFLE HIS OPINION, LITTLE FELLA?

Anonymous said...

"I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law.I thought he was concerned about equitable application of our laws. And avoiding the appearance that those in positions of authority and trust are above the law."

It is disappointing. What has happenend in Colchester is equally wrong.

7:16 AM, December 14, 2007

Anonymous said...

"Your response shows how little you've got going for you in every sense of the word."

Actually it show my deep liberal concern for your mental well being. I am willing to see my tax dollars used to fund your journey back towards mental stability.

Get some help.

8:53 AM, December 14, 2007

Anonymous said...
Who is got the balls to run against Jim Douglas?

8:54 PM, December 14, 2007


Anonymous said...
Who cares? We need a new Attorney General - ASAP!

8:54 PM, December 14, 2007




JWCoop10 said...

Anonymous said...

"Who is got the balls to run against Jim Douglas?"

So far, Polina has the stones to run against Les Nessman.

Actually, Matt Dunne has 'em. Jeb Spaulding has 'em, too.

If the Dems can come up with the candidate and the cash, Jiminy Cricket can be beaten.

10:16 PM, December 14, 2007


Anonymous said...

"If the Dems can come up with the candidate and the cash, Jiminy Cricket can be beaten."

Oh, you mean if one party comes up with an attractive candidate and throws in lots of money, they can beat the opposing party's candidate? Really?

Duh. You must be one of those high-priced political consultants.

Care to get a little more specific about WHICH candidate and HOW MUCH money?

10:38 PM, December 14, 2007
 

Pollina 08'
 

At least the Governor had the balls to change his mind.
 

Balls had nothin' to do with it.

He did it because he'd been exposed as the fraud he is and has no case.
 

You're entitled to your opinion, and to be wrong.

Possessing marijuana is illegal. Growing marijuana is illegal. A white upperclass professional, and a professional colleague of the prosecutor, got preferential treatment. You and I would probably be doing jail time for the same offense.

Douglas got it right. "Decriminalization" was never the issue here. The appearance of preferential treatment was the issue.
 

Anonymous said...

"You're entitled to your opinion, and to be wrong."

Thanks anyway, but that's more your cup a tea. Feel free to swill my cup with your gop-slop kool-aid.

"Possessing marijuana is illegal. Growing marijuana is illegal. A white upperclass professional, and a professional colleague of the prosecutor, got preferential treatment. You and I would probably be doing jail time for the same offense."

So is criminal negligence, war crimes and destroying evidence, but look who's still President and who still supports him, pinhead.

It's also expensive. You want your taxes going up to pay for investigation, arrest and prosecution and incarceration of petty, non-violent crime? Fine. I don't. If you're feeling so generous, you can pay my share, too.

Anybody else want sport and bubbles pickin' up the check for the costs for non-violent criminals? Evidently, they're feelin' flush and charitable with cash to burn. I for one wouldn't dream of depriving them of such pleasure in this Season of Giving.

Besides, the War on Drugs is having the same deterrent effect that prohibition had on Al Capone.

The Corrections Budget is already up 10 percent from last year. That's a lot more than Education's up, little fella.

"Douglas got it right. "Decriminalization" was never the issue here. The appearance of preferential treatment was the issue."

Yeah, I'm sure the Orange Country revelation had nothin' to do with it.

Nice try. No sale.

Once again, you prove your loyalty to the Democratic Party is beyond reproach.

Always a pleasure.
 

Hey, ass: enforcing the law and giving equal treatment under the law is not a Dem v. Repub issue. In fact, letting rich white upperclass people off is a Republican trait.

In addition, you implicitly claim that all Dems would agree that Martha Davis should have been let off. Guess what? You're wong. Again.

Your opinions do not equal Dem. party positions.

Wannabe.
 

Anonymous said...

"Hey, ass: enforcing the law and giving equal treatment under the law is not a Dem v. Repub issue. In fact, letting rich white upperclass people off is a Republican trait."

You're, damned skippy it is, sport.

As always, feel free to point out where I said it was with respect to the former or it wasn't with respect to the latter.

That's what I thought.

You're firm grasp of the obvious never ceases to amaze, little fella.

"In addition, you implicitly claim that all Dems would agree that Martha Davis should have been let off. Guess what? You're wong. Again."

I do, eh? I am, eh?

See previous answer.

That's what I thought.

You're sense of "white and wong" is as psychotically skewed as ever, sport.

"Wannabe."

Really? Precisely just what is it that I want to be in your estimation, little fella, and what evidence do you have to support your assertion?

That's what I thought.

Always a pleasure, putz.
 

You want to be Speaker of the Vt. House. You want to be social and economic policy czar of Vt. You want to be "enforcer of orthodoxy" of Vt. Dems.

You'll never be any of the above. Get used to it.
 

It's always nice to hear the "take back Vermont trash" perspective - ignorant and ill-informed as it is - from bubbles and his invisible anonymous legion-of-lunatics supporters.

First of all, if you don't like Sanders, get yourself a qualified candidate and vote him out of office.

That's what those of us who've seen enough of Douglas's song and dance are going to have to do.

Why should it be any different for Bernie's coalition of the clueless critics?

That's what I thought.

I've got news for you nitwits. Both of ya.

Your nitwit-nonsense act didn't fly when Ruthie Dwyer and her Tunbridge Taliban supporters got smoked twice within the past decade.

Moreover, there's no evidence whatsoever that your take back Vermont trash shtick has gained any supporters lately.

Therefore, unless you can supply something even remotely resembling supporting evidence for your bogus assertions, stuff a sock in it.

Get yourselves some new nitwit-nonsense gop-slop to sling.

Dismissed.
 

Anonymous said...

"You want to be Speaker of the Vt. House. You want to be social and economic policy czar of Vt. You want to be "enforcer of orthodoxy" of Vt. Dems."

I do, eh? As always, feel free to cough up some evidence to substantiate that contention, little fella.

That's what I thought.

"You'll never be any of the above. Get used to it."

As opposed to the lunatic fringe fraud likes of you, little fella?

Again, feel free to demonstrate where I've expressed a desire to be Speaker, shmendrik.

The floor is yours.

That's what I thought.

Nice try. No sale.

Always a pleasure.
 

Readers might want to read today's Caledonian Record editorial regarding the difference in law enforcement between the Northeast Kingdom and leftist meccas such as Windham and Chittenden counties. Nice to know there still is a place where the politically connected face the same justice as the rest of us peons!