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Political notes from Free Press staff writers Terri Hallenbeck, Sam Hemingway and Nancy Remsen

1.30.2008

Dean: It'll be up to Vt.

Howard Dean was at the Statehouse today to talk about term lengths for governor, but given that he is head of the Democratic National Committee and we are in the midst of a presidential primary, we queried him about issues farther afield.

He steered clear of most questions. What about the controversy between Bill Clinton and Barack Obama? Not going there. What about reinstating Florida and Michigan's delegates? Not weighing in.

He did, however, say he didn't think the Democratic primary would be decided Feb. 5, and that Vermont just might decide this thing March 4.

And he said the battle between Democrats will be good for the party and the eventual nominee in the long run.

- Terri Hallenbeck

posted by vt.Buzz | 7:48 PM |

Comments:

Did anyone ask him about impeaching Shumlin?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:12 PM, January 30, 2008

Howie, when are we going to see your secret papers hidden from the public all of these years? After all, don't you and your fellow wing nuts always complain about the secrecy of the Bush admin? Here's you're chance to set an example!

When pigs fly.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:25 AM, January 31, 2008

Howard Dean is a friggin jerk who helped to ruin out great state. I wish he'd leave and never come back.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:10 AM, January 31, 2008

The Dean transformation has been an interesting thing to watch. From DLC Democrat leaning GOP to rabid Democrat. Can you say "politics of convinience?" Oh well. At least he finally saw the light--and he is out of Vermont.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:50 AM, January 31, 2008

He is truly the perfect dimocrat - out of Vermont, out of office.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:22 AM, January 31, 2008

"JWCoop10 said...
Thank You for that ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin' nitwit, factually-challenged, unpatriotic and UnAmerican, bigoted-trash perspective, bubble boy.

Always a pleasure."

And thank you for your continued display of open-minded, acceptance of an opposing point of view. You too truly exhibit the tolerance and acceptance that has been the cornerstone of America's success.

Your pal, Anonymous

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:56 AM, January 31, 2008

Ya mean like you did in the following, little fella?

Anonymous said...

"Howard Dean is a friggin jerk who helped to ruin out great state. I wish he'd leave and never come back."

Nice try, nitwit.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 10:12 AM, January 31, 2008

FLASH: Howard Dean announced today that he will finally release his secret papers previously hidden from the public. And jw will also be presenting his proof that JFK was about to end the Vietnam War, and not to be outdone, will also be presenting his evidence that the late Strom Thurmond was guilty of rape. Stay tuned for more details!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:12 AM, January 31, 2008

"JWCoop10 said...
Ya mean like you did in the following, little fella?

Anonymous said...

"Howard Dean is a friggin jerk who helped to ruin out great state. I wish he'd leave and never come back."

JW, please provide proof that was me. You can't because it wasn't. Do you ever get tired of just making things up to fit your curious point of view?

You make the Conservative faction on this board look like saints.

Your pal, Anonymous

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:22 AM, January 31, 2008

bubba has left a new comment on the post "Dean: It'll be up to Vt.":

"FLASH: Howard Dean announced today that he will finally release his secret papers previously hidden from the public. And jw will also be presenting his proof that JFK was about to end the Vietnam War, and not to be outdone, will also be presenting his evidence that the late Strom Thurmond was guilty of rape. Stay tuned for more details!"

Well, since we know better than to look to you and your brokebrain mountain sidekick for facts and information, bubble boy, where will these "details" be coming from?

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 10:24 AM, January 31, 2008

Coopster,

Please prove I am a GOPer. Again you can't since I am not.

You are shameless! Is there no limit to the unsubstantiated accusations you make?

I am starting to think that it is you who is the closet Bush fan given how far you stretch the truth. JW are you a GOPer yourself? Are you harboring WMD's in your basement? Do you listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio? Have a picture of Ronald Reagan in your bedroom? Just fess up. It's okay. You will feel better after you admit it.

Your pal, Anonymous

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:12 AM, January 31, 2008

Does anyone read JW's crap anymore?

Anytime I see one of his posts, I just scroll down.

It's never worth the time to read his blather.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:12 PM, January 31, 2008

"Anonymous said...
Today's lesson in civility and reasoned persuasion by jwcoop:"

A true spokesmen for the State of Vermont. Those Dale Carnegie courses really paid off.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 1:43 PM, January 31, 2008

Again, you actually read that lady's crap??

Just skip over it. Her crap isn't worth reading.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:40 PM, January 31, 2008

My Blog Is A Dog

by P. Freyne

My blog is a dog
To read it a slog
No new info to share
Too big a coward to dare
I know, a photo
I'll take one right quick
Never mind the person I'm clicking thinks I'm a D&#k.
I owe my existence to the Inside Track
Seven Days; the only paper that would hire this old hack
So back to my keyboard, I run with fingers ready
A story about me; now that would be heady
Farewell and adieu, my blogosphere
few
My blog is a dog; even I say P.U.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:17 PM, January 31, 2008

Hey nice ditty about the egomaniac Freyne!

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:40 PM, January 31, 2008

This comment has been removed by the author.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 4:52 PM, January 31, 2008

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post

"Dean: It'll be up to Vt.":

"Hey nice ditty about the egomaniac Freyne!"

Yeah, I can see why you'd wanna go after Feyne, little nameless-nitwit fella. He's not here.

You guys always do real well until somebody smacks ya back.

Then ya turtle and whine. You turtle and whine a lot.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 4:54 PM, January 31, 2008

GO freyne

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:19 PM, January 31, 2008

Freyne and jw - dumb and dumber.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:52 PM, January 31, 2008

Which makes bubba the dumbest.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:00 PM, January 31, 2008

"Yeah, I can see why you'd wanna go after Feyne, little nameless-nitwit fella. He's not here."

Hey, jw, it's "Freyne," not "Feyne."

Weren't you the arrogant ass who was blathering on before about someone making a typo?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:57 PM, January 31, 2008

jw's attack on someone who mispelled the word "Polaroid" on another thread:

"Ya know, ya might not look quite so clueless if ya could at least spell your bogus, factually-unsupported allegations and analogies properly. Especially, when they consist of two simple words and you blow the key word, schmuck."

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:02 PM, January 31, 2008

Yeah, no doubt about it. I made a typo with Freyne. My bad.

Then again, little nameless-nitwit fella, that still leaves you with nothing to say and even less to back it up.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 10:13 AM, February 01, 2008

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post

"Dean: It'll be up to Vt.":

"Hey nice ditty about the egomaniac Freyne!"

Yeah, I can see why you'd wanna go after Freyne, little nameless-nitwit fella. He's not here.

You guys always do real well until somebody smacks ya back.

Then ya turtle and whine. You turtle and whine a lot.

Thanks for bein' a mensch and catchin' that typo, little fella.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 11:00 AM, February 01, 2008

I'm with the others who now skip over any post made by JW.

He isn't very smart and seldom has anything good to say.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:41 AM, February 01, 2008

I join the group not reading JW. He hasn't had an original thought since surfacing and actually has brought whatever constructive/civilized dialogue that did exist to a dead stop.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 11:58 AM, February 01, 2008

To get back on topic, Howard offered up nothing in his comments and it is unlikely that VT will have any influence on the outcome.

In fact there is little difference between the 2 remaining candidates.

Obama was just ranked as the most liberal member of Congress and Hillary was ranked #16. Either way the Party has really served up no viable alternative to a far left slanted option. the Country needs something more middle of the road and able to work in(not talk about)a bi-partisan fashion.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:04 PM, February 01, 2008

"that still leaves you with nothing to say and even less to back it up."

You realize of course that that is a logical absurdity.

How surprising.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 2:34 PM, February 01, 2008

Anonymous said...

"that still leaves you with nothing to say and even less to back it up."

"You realize of course that that is a logical absurdity."

Yeah, but we're not talkin' about logical constructs, little fella. We're talkin' about you and your bogus claims and asinine assertions.

Big Difference.

Moreover, the expression captures the very essence of you and the bubble boy perfectly.

Always a pleasure.

"How surprising."

No, that would be a claim you could substantiate and there's certainly none of that goin' on here. There's nothing surprising about your post.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:15 PM, February 01, 2008

WOW another remarkably predictable and trite posting from the man of no facts.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 3:20 PM, February 01, 2008

Anonymous said...

"To get back on topic, Howard offered up nothing in his comments and it is unlikely that VT will have any influence on the outcome.

In fact there is little difference between the 2 remaining candidates.

Obama was just ranked as the most liberal member of Congress and Hillary was ranked #16. Either way the Party has really served up no viable alternative to a far left slanted option. the Country needs something more middle of the road and able to work in(not talk about)a bi-partisan fashion."

You'll get your chance to be a McCainiac or a Mittwit, little fella. Then you can tell me how many loyal "dues-paying" Dems like you voted for them.

Dismissed.

2:04 PM, February 01, 2008

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 3:28 PM, February 01, 2008

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:10 PM, February 01, 2008

"You'll get your chance to be a McCainiac or a Mittwit, little fella. Then you can tell me how many loyal "dues-paying" Dems like you voted for them."

Confused little fella, your remark was obviously directed at me, not to the poster you're responding to. I have no intention of voting for anyone but whoever emerges as the Democratic candidate in the U.S. Presidential race.

That does not mean that all Democrats are always right about everything -- as you seem to advocate in your own charming way -- especially the ones who "lead" the Vermont legislature.

And I'm willing to bet that for all your ridiculous insulting bluster, you do not actually pay membership dues to the Vt. Dem. Pty.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:21 PM, February 01, 2008

"JWCoop10 said...
Anonymous said...

"that still leaves you with nothing to say and even less to back it up."

"You realize of course that that is a logical absurdity."

Yeah, but we're not talkin' about logical constructs, little fella."

""No, apparently we're admitting that we made a nonsensical statement.""

Yeah, you do make a lot of those, little nameless-nitwit, factually-challenged fella.

At least you're finally admitting it. That's the first step on the road to recovery. I'm proud of ya, little fella.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 7:31 PM, February 01, 2008

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 7:59 PM, February 01, 2008

Morning jw insult summary. Enjoy. (And this is only from one posting!):

grow a pair, get your head outta your ignorant ass and to know what you're talkin' about
little presumptuous-putz fella? nameless nitwit
When did I say that, little fella
produce the quote my little coalition of the clueless cretin
factually-challenged, brain-dead assumptions with no basis in fact and a snarky attitude, little nameless-nitwit fella
When did I say I did, little nameless-nitwit fella
Feel free to produce that quote
little fella
Some nameless-nitwit
Frankly, I don't give a damn
you're the nameless nitwit
ignorant, unsubstantiated nonsense
such tripe
your ignorant ass
you're clearly the kind of schmuck
another anonymous nitwit
you're the ignorant pile of nameless-nitwit horsebrit
nameless-nitwit
just another idiotic remark
nameless-nitwit who doesn't know his ass from his elbow

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:44 AM, February 02, 2008

jw criticizes someone for having what he calls "a snarky attitude."

What's that you say, little fella?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:46 AM, February 02, 2008

JW charmningly said: "The fact remains that no nameless-nitwit has stated what grounds Shumlin should be impeached..."

I suspect the same grounds the rocket scientists in Bennington have asked the town attorney to right up an indictment to arrest Bush and Cheney...Idiocy reigns supreme around here you included Coopster.

your pal, Anonymous

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:19 AM, February 02, 2008

"JW charmningly said: "The fact remains that no nameless-nitwit has stated what grounds Shumlin should be impeached..."

Yeah, and you've still got no answer and no facts to back it up, little nameless-nitwit fella.

"I suspect the same grounds the rocket scientists in Bennington have asked the town attorney to right up an indictment to arrest Bush and Cheney...Idiocy reigns supreme around here you included Coopster...."

In other words, ya got bupkis.

Nice try, little fella. I don't give a damn what you "suspect."

Your ignorant, ill-informed suspicions aren't evidence, little factually-challenged fella. As "charmningly" delivered as they may be, they're merely your ignorant, ill-informed, suspicions.

Moreover, the only thing you and the bubble boy have been able to prove since before I got here is that you can't prove anything and ya can't find and/or use the spell-check function.

your pal, JW

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:20 PM, February 02, 2008

Anonymous said...

"jw criticizes someone for having what he calls "a snarky attitude."

No, I said this: "...You're gonna have to do better than factually-challenged, brain-dead assumptions with no basis in fact and a snarky attitude, little nameless-nitwit fella..."

Clearly, you can't.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 12:30 PM, February 02, 2008

"In other words, ya got bupkis. "

Right back at ya' JW. You too haven't laid a fact on the table since day one only your curiously uncivilized personal prejudice and biases.

Didn’t Grandma tell you not to argue with idiots? I would have thought be now you would have moved on to a more cerebral board or has Bill Maher blocked you at this point?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:41 PM, February 02, 2008

"While I appreciate the gesture, little fella, I know what I said. I don't need ya to remind me."

I'm not directing my comments to you. I'm directing them to civilized society.

"Your time would be better spent figuring out what the hell you're talkin' about, little factually-challenged fella."

And your time would be better spent either shutting up or offering any opinions you want, minus the gratuitous insults.

Get it?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 5:20 PM, February 02, 2008

Get rid of Shumlin
and get rid of Symington...

and then voters can get involved.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:30 PM, February 02, 2008

This comment has been removed by the author.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 6:54 PM, February 02, 2008

Classic Coop. In his strange little way he thinks this is a logical and civilized counterpoint.

Feel sorry for him.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:58 AM, February 04, 2008

"Um, I've answered this three times now, little factually-challenged fella."

No, you haven't answered the question. You've merely responded by hurling yet more insults. My question stands: is the above collection of insults how you respond to an opinion you disagree with.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 12:36 PM, February 04, 2008

Vermont with its 3 Electorial College delegates will prove once again during the 2008 General Election that its a insignifiant and meaningless to campaign here. Just think all a Presidential candidate has to do is win 26 Major States like California NY Fla. Pa Ill. Texas etc. and their in. They can lose Vt. and the rest of the States and gain the popular vote and there votes mean zippo.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 4:59 PM, February 04, 2008

Anonymous has left a new comment on the post "Dean: It'll be up to Vt.":

"Vermont with its 3 Electorial College delegates will prove once again during the 2008 General Election that its a insignifiant and meaningless to campaign here. Just think all a Presidential candidate has to do is win 26 Major States like California NY Fla. Pa Ill. Texas etc. and their in. They can lose Vt. and the rest of the States and gain the popular vote and there votes mean zippo."

They don't even have to win the popular vote or Florida if their lard-butted little brother is the Governor and where are they now Katherine Harris is his Secretary of State and your State Campaign Chair.

Ya wanna live in Florida, there's the door.

Always a pleasure.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 8:01 PM, February 04, 2008

JW...Thanks for the usual kind words on your 7:51PM post. You may in fact have found a career as a spell checker on a meaningless blog.

My bad on Bennington -v- Brattleboro... I was thinking one thing and typed another much like your post saying something about Bush invading Iran when you meant Iraq. You idiot.

My original point stands..."Idiocy reigns supreme around here you included Coopster." Your posting is all the fact I need to support it.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 7:25 AM, February 05, 2008

jw - just WHAT War Crime, Perjury, or Obstruction of Justice has either Bush or Cheney been convicted of, little fella? Maybe in the minds of the Brattleboro Nellies and you, Woodschmuck?

Thought so.
Another idiot statement with no evidence.
Back to the Richard's.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:24 AM, February 05, 2008

JW spews: "You're dumb. You're scum. You're dismissed."

That does it, W (like in George W.)! You are officially of my valentines day card list.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:15 AM, February 05, 2008

How could the Dems possibly reinstate Florida's delegates without a revote? I was in in West Palm and everyone who voted as a Dem or independant was only allowed to cast A vote as a democrat with no choice as to which candidate. Yet the local papers had vote tallies for each candidate the next day? I know many of the people of Palm Beach are old...but they are not stupid. whats going on here? Howard?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 9:15 AM, February 05, 2008

Anonymous said...

JW to your 8:12 post. Here is where yue acknowledged your IRAN blow. You babble so meuch you don;t know what you say.

In other words, "yue" got bupkis, punk.

-----------
JWCoop10 said...
Anonymous said...

"JW, not to back up but, why are CBS reported stories in Iraq any less credible than the CNN archived stories you provide to support your alledged claim of S. Thurmond raping his domestic?"

"Oh yeah..it's because you say it's so and we all know you are the one consulted by all heads of state on all matters no matter how large or small."

Nah, it's more a question of your long, well-established inability to make a case and support your ignorant, ill-informed, bogus accusations with any factual evidence and just generally demonstrating that you don't know what the folk you're talking about on a wide range of subjects.

"Thanks for sharing your first hand knowledge. Idiot."

You're welcome, Idiot. Always happy to help the factually-challenged.

"Oh, thanks for pointing out that Iraq/Iran typo."

In other words, not only have you proved you've got bupkis, "yue" have now demonstrated your inability to spell you.

Thanks for clearin' that up, schmuck.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 9:38 AM, February 05, 2008

It's "fact-challenged," not "factually-challenged."

Go back to grammar school.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 6:42 PM, February 05, 2008

Anonymous said...

JW to your 8:12 post. Here is where yue acknowledged your IRAN blow. You babble so meuch you don;t know what you say.

In other words, "yue" got bupkis, punk.

"You babble so "meuch you don;t" know what you say."

Nice try, nitwit. Once again, you've made it abundantly clear that you not only don't what the hell you're talkin' about, ya can't spell it either.

-----------
JWCoop10 said...
Anonymous said...

"JW, not to back up but, why are CBS reported stories in Iraq any less credible than the CNN archived stories you provide to support your alledged claim of S. Thurmond raping his domestic?"

"Oh yeah..it's because you say it's so and we all know you are the one consulted by all heads of state on all matters no matter how large or small."

Nah, it's more a question of your long, well-established inability to make a case and support your ignorant, ill-informed, bogus accusations with any factual evidence and just generally demonstrating that you don't know what the folk you're talking about on a wide range of subjects.

"Thanks for sharing your first hand knowledge. Idiot."

You're welcome, Idiot. Always happy to help the factually-challenged.

"Oh, thanks for pointing out that Iraq/Iran typo."

In other words, not only have you proved you've got bupkis, "yue" have now demonstrated your inability to spell you.

Thanks for clearin' that up, schmuck.

Dismissed.

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 5:57 PM, February 07, 2008

"Nice try, nitwit. Once again, you've made it abundantly clear that you not only don't what the hell you're talkin' about, ya can't spell it either."

Ya mean like Peter "Feyne," jw?

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 8:43 PM, February 07, 2008

"JWCoop10 said...
Ya mean like you did in the following, little fella?

Anonymous said...

"Howard Dean is a friggin jerk who helped to ruin out great state. I wish he'd leave and never come back."

"JW, please provide proof that was me. You can't because it wasn't."

Really? Gee, it's posted under your screen name, little nameless-idiot fella. Why on Earth would I think it was anyone but you?

That's what I thought.

"Do you ever get tired of just making things up to fit your curious point of view?"

If it ever comes up I'll let ya know.

Do you ever get tired of making bogus nameless-nitwit charges that don't stick and comin' up bupkis, little idiot fella?

As for the nameless-nitwit fantasy stuff, nah, I've got the law, the facts, reality and superior spelling and punctuation prowess over you coalition of the clueless clowns, as it is. I leave that gop-slop, fairy tale nonsense to you and your boy bubbles. It's not like ya got anything else goin' for ya.

"You make the Conservative faction on this board look like saints."

Yeah, New Orleans Saints. Like you, they finished outta the money, too.

You're entitled to your ignorant, ill-informed opinion, little idiot fella.

Good thing. Outside of that, ya got bupkis.

Dismissed.

Your pal, jw

10:22 AM, January 31, 2008

# Posted by:

JWCoop10 | 11:10 PM, February 07, 2008

That's quite a conversation you seem to be having with yourself there, little fella.

# Posted by:

Anonymous | 10:56 PM, February 08, 2008