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1.17.2008

 

Backing Obama

Sen. Patrick Leahy and Rep. Peter Welch, Vermont's Democratic members of the congressional delegation, announced Thursday they will back Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois for the party's presidential nomination.

Said Welch:
"I have great admiration for all the Democratic candidates in the race. But
it is Barack Obama who has brought new energy into the political process,
inspiring all Americans to believe that it is possible to restore America's
promise at home and in the world."

Said Leahy:

"We need a president who can reintroduce America to the world and actually
reintroduce America to ourselves. I believe Barack Obama is the best person to
do that."

*******UPDATE********
Sen. Bernie Sanders won't be endorsing a presidential candidate, according to his staff.
This from press secretary Will Wiquist: "The independent Senator from Vermont won't be endorsing any candidate inthe Democratic Party primaries. He will do everything he can to helpthe eventual Democratic nominee move the country in a different direction."

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
It would seem a real Democrat would have endorsed Edwards.
 
Agree.
 
Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for
 
Maybe Edwards should have lobbied a little harder to make sure Kucinich was included in last week's debate. Guess that's not what "real" Democrats do. Why be inclusive of all Democrat candidates?
 
Edwards, Clinton and Obama are all "real" demcrats. It's a big party. There is room for people who disagree with each other.

On the topic of endorsments, this is a very safe move for Leahy and Welch. Obama is very popular in Vermont. They are just running out in front of the parade on this one.

Just like Douglas's endorsement of McCain was a save move. (Notice that the endorsement from Douglas did not come until McCain started winning in New Hampshire ...)

McCain is popular in Vermont and so that's who Douglas endorsed.
 
Aren't you a little tired of our reps doing what's "safe"?
 
Yes I am. I'm tired of Douglas doing what's safe too.
 
"Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"


Agreed; what a couple thought leaders....Yawn
 
Same could be said of Douglas's endorsement of McCain. Big Yawn.
 
Endorsements by any VT politician, except of course jwcoop, a big who cares...zzzzzzzz
 
No one really cares and as usual Bernie is really only for Bernie.
 
Bernie is a genius. He knows his endorsement means nothing so if he doesn't endorse, he can't be wrong. If he can't be wrong, he is in the perfect position to second guess any eventual winner.

He is a true master of living well of the system.
 
I've never understood "endorsements" anyway. Am I not supposed to decide for myself whom I should vote for? I resent being told by Barbara Streisand, Oprah Winfrey, and even Pat Leahy, whom I should vote for. I will not make my decision based on what somebody else does.
 
When all is said and done, in the fall of 2009, Leahy will be holding hearings on President Hillary Clinton's first nominee for the Supreme Court, Sen. Barack Obama, whom Hillary will nominate to succeed Obama's fellow Illinoisan, retiring Justice John Paul Stevens.
 
I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season.
 
But isn't he a canibal?
 
Remember "the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party?" Edwards is the only viable candidate left representing that wing, ie, the wing representing the average citizen.
 
"average citizens" seem to disagree with you ... based on how they have voted so far.
 
Anonymous said...

"I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

Imagine how we fill, little ignorant anonymous fella.

As is your custom, the scope of your cretinous cluelessness is truly staggering.
 
Anonymous said...

"Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"

Yeah, both of ya.
 
"average citizens ...disagree with you." That is their prerogative.It doesn't make it any the less a valid point however.
 
The mainstream media are almost completely ignoring Edwards.

Take a look at

http://www.johnedwards.com/whereisjohn/

Hopefully Edwards' name will be on the Vermont ballot in 2008. He missed the filing deadline in 2004. The filing deadline for this year is next Monday, January 21, and the Secretary of State's office will be open on MLK Day.
 
Kucinich seems to be a "real" Democrat, but his colleagues are shutting out his voice. Politics as usual sucks. Edwards has no balls, neither does Obama and Clinton definately doesn't. I'm not voting for Kucinich but I think his voice belongs in the debates.
 
I agree that Kucinich's voice should be heard. That's why I said that Edwards is the only "viable" candidate left who represents the ordinary citizen. No question that Kucinich does also.

Both have been marginalized by the mainstream media.
 
Edwards is the pol that has nothing to loose -- no job, no traction in the pols -- so he started telling the truth. It's nice to hear the truth.

But once he has something to loose again ... he'll start playing the political games again ... just like he did when he was in the senate.

Remember, in the Senate, Edwards voted for the Bankruptcy Bill .. which was a terrible bill for middle class Americans ... but rewarded corporations for bad business practices.
 
That's a definite negative, but he has said that that was a mistake. Clinton, on the other hand, has not disavowed her votes for the Iraq War.
 
Please join the ABC Club.

Anybody But Clinton!
 
"Hopefully Edwards' name will be on the Vermont ballot in 2008. He missed the filing deadline in 2004. The filing deadline for this year is next Monday, January 21, and the Secretary of State's office will be open on MLK Day."

Ya, a big win in Vermont would surely change the way the rest of the country thinks of him. Much like the country has been waiting for the endorsements of Leahy and Welch.
 
"That's a definite negative, but he has said that that was a mistake."

It's easy to say it was a mistake 4 years later. At the time, when he had something to loose, he stuck it to the middle class.

His current rhetoric says one thing. His voting record says another.
 
Anonymous said...
Please join the ABC Club.

Anybody But Clinton!

Gee, that's a good one, little fella. Ya come up with that all by yourself?
 
I am in!
 
"I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

I'm embarrased that imbeciles like this call themselves Vermonters.
 
Actually JW, I wrote the ABC comment, and I am one of your fans. Believe it or not, all Dems don't fall into line behind Clinton like lemmings. Sorry about that.
 
Anonymous said...

"Actually JW, I wrote the ABC comment, and I am one of your fans."

Well, if ya don't wanna be mistaken for bubble boy's caddy, ya might wanna come up with a screen name of your own so ya don't run that risk.

"Believe it or not, all Dems don't fall into line behind Clinton like lemmings. Sorry about that."

When did I say I was for Clinton?

I'm for the Dem who walks in the White House a year from now and rids the joint of the rodents and cleans out the bad karma.

It took a Clinton to detox the joint and clean up the first Reagan Bush mess. If she's the nominee, she can clean up after this clown.

Twenty or so years from now, Chelsea can run against Not Jenna and nip this bush-league infestation once and for all.

Besides, I'm more of an ABBA guy. Anybody But Bush Already.
 
LOL! I'm a charter member of that club as well.
 
Anonymous said...

"Bernie is a genius. He knows his endorsement means nothing so if he doesn't endorse, he can't be wrong. If he can't be wrong, he is in the perfect position to second guess any eventual winner."

If you have any examples of Bernie endorsing Dem Candidates, little anonymous nitwit, I'm sure everyone would just love to see them.

"He is a true master of living well of the system."

Well, if by "He is a true master of living well "of" the system." you mean he runs for office and gets more votes than his opposition, ya might just be on to somethin', little fella.

Congrats, you've had your broken clock moment of the day. Savor it, shmendrik. It's probably gonna be a while before the next one.

Always a pleasure.
 
Anonymous said...

"Hopefully Edwards' name will be on the Vermont ballot in 2008. He missed the filing deadline in 2004. The filing deadline for this year is next Monday, January 21, and the Secretary of State's office will be open on MLK Day."

"Ya, a big win in Vermont would surely change the way the rest of the country thinks of him. Much like the country has been waiting for the endorsements of Leahy and Welch."

As opposed to the nitwits who've been awaiting their marching orders from the jimi douglas experience, little fella?
 
"If you have any examples of Bernie endorsing Dem Candidates, little anonymous nitwit, I'm sure everyone would just love to see them. "

JW you numbnut....I said he DOES NOT endorse. Therefore there would be no examples to offer. Didn't they teach you to read at the Jethro Bodine Academy of Higher Learnin'?
 
"Well, if by "He is a true master of living well "of" the system." you mean he runs for office and gets more votes than his opposition, ya might just be on to somethin', little fella."

Since this is also true of Jim Douglas, guess you're gonna be admiring him, too, eh?
 
"In other words, you're either scum or you're incredibly stupid scum. "


Thanks for the incredibly kind words JW. You are a truly gentile individual that represents your party well.

I would ask one favor; please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits...from life experience perhaps?

It's dialogue like yours that has destroyed the chance for bipartisan progress in the state.

Keep up the good work. In time perhaps we can all learn from your behavior.
 
JW is an inspiration to us all; a shining example of all that Vermont represents.
 
Anonymous said...

In other words, you're either scum or you're incredibly stupid scum.

"Thanks for the incredibly kind words JW. You are a truly gentile individual that represents your party well."

When did I say I represented a party, little fella?

That's what I thought.

"I would ask one favor;..."

Ah, so you're gonna pull the ole "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and have no evidence to back up the bogus nonsense me and bubble boy traffic exclusively in so I'm gonna try and change the subject and hope nobody notices" song and dance.

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

"...please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits...from life experience perhaps?"

Ya mean like this?

Anonymous said... "No one really cares and as usual Bernie is really only for Bernie."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"

And this?

Anonymous said... "It would seem a real Democrat would have endorsed Edwards."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"
"Agreed; what a couple thought leaders....Yawn"

And this?

Anonymous said... "Bernie is a genius. He knows his endorsement means nothing so if he doesn't endorse, he can't be wrong. If he can't be wrong, he is in the perfect position to second guess any eventual winner."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

And this?

Anonymous said... "Kucinich seems to be a "real" Democrat, but his colleagues are shutting out his voice. Politics as usual sucks. Edwards has no balls, neither does Obama and Clinton definately doesn't. I'm not voting for Kucinich but I think his voice belongs in the debates."

Yeah, I remember how outraged you were about Tancredo, Hunter and Alan Keyes being excluded from the gop debates, little anonymous fella.

Nice try. Ya got bupkis, punk.

"It's dialogue like yours that has destroyed the chance for bipartisan progress in the state."

"Keep up the good work. In time perhaps we can all learn from your behavior."

Ya mean like this, little fella?

Anonymous said... "I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Edwards is the pol that has nothing to loose -- no job, no traction in the pols -- so he started telling the truth. It's nice to hear the truth."

"But once he has something to loose again ... he'll start playing the political games again ... just like he did when he was in the senate."

"Remember, in the Senate, Edwards voted for the Bankruptcy Bill .. which was a terrible bill for middle class Americans ... but rewarded corporations for bad business practices."

Yeah, little fella, examples of your concern for the consumer and condemnation of "corporations engaging in bad business practices." are all over this place.

Go cheney yourself, punk. You're the same thing ya were when I got here: an ignorant, ill-informed, gop-slop spewin' knuckle-draggin' nitwit cyber bully who doesn't like it when somebody calls ya on your ignorant trash and hits ya back.

Get used to it, little fella. I'm gonna keep callin' ya on it and I'm sure you'll leave me no shortage of opportunities to do just that.

Always a pleasure.
 
"Go cheney yourself, punk. You're the same thing ya were when I got here: an ignorant, ill-informed, gop-slop spewin' knuckle-draggin' nitwit cyber bully who doesn't like it when somebody calls ya on your ignorant trash and hits ya back."

Thanks for the kind words and the 2nd grade diatribe JW. Once again you represent yourself well. You make us all proud.

Could you respond to the request.."please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits...from life experience perhaps?"

Once again you did everything but that. I am sure you have an impressive list of credentials and I trust you are able to read and comprehend (?). Let us know the facts on why we should listen to our every word as crass as they may be.

BTW...You will know me in the ice cream store becasue I will ask you for one scoop, a waffle cone and sprinkles.
 
In other words, ya got bupkis.

Asked and answered, little anonymous nitwit.

Ya need me to tell ya that Dems don't vote for gops again, too, or was the 75th time the charm?

Like I've been tellin' ya and showin' ya for better than 2 months now, little fella, you prove ya don't know what the hell you're talking about and can't prove what ya say, I just point it out.

Like this:

Anonymous said...

In other words, you're either scum or you're incredibly stupid scum.

"Thanks for the incredibly kind words JW. You are a truly gentile individual that represents your party well."

When did I say I represented a party, little fella?

That's what I thought.

"I would ask one favor;..."

Ah, so you're gonna pull the ole "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and have no evidence to back up the bogus nonsense me and bubble boy traffic exclusively in so I'm gonna try and change the subject and hope nobody notices" song and dance.

Nice try, nitwit. No sale.

"...please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits...from life experience perhaps?"

Ya mean like this?

Anonymous said... "No one really cares and as usual Bernie is really only for Bernie."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"

And this?

Anonymous said... "It would seem a real Democrat would have endorsed Edwards."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Geeee I bet the whole country is just waiting for Petey and Pattie to tell them who to vote for"
"Agreed; what a couple thought leaders....Yawn"

And this?

Anonymous said... "Bernie is a genius. He knows his endorsement means nothing so if he doesn't endorse, he can't be wrong. If he can't be wrong, he is in the perfect position to second guess any eventual winner."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

And this?

Anonymous said... "Kucinich seems to be a "real" Democrat, but his colleagues are shutting out his voice. Politics as usual sucks. Edwards has no balls, neither does Obama and Clinton definately doesn't. I'm not voting for Kucinich but I think his voice belongs in the debates."

Yeah, I remember how outraged you were about Tancredo, Hunter and Alan Keyes being excluded from the gop debates, little anonymous fella.

Nice try. Ya got bupkis, punk.

"It's dialogue like yours that has destroyed the chance for bipartisan progress in the state."

"Keep up the good work. In time perhaps we can all learn from your behavior."

Ya mean like this, little fella?

Anonymous said... "I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

Or this?

Anonymous said... "Edwards is the pol that has nothing to loose -- no job, no traction in the pols -- so he started telling the truth. It's nice to hear the truth."

"But once he has something to loose again ... he'll start playing the political games again ... just like he did when he was in the senate."

"Remember, in the Senate, Edwards voted for the Bankruptcy Bill .. which was a terrible bill for middle class Americans ... but rewarded corporations for bad business practices."

Yeah, little fella, examples of your concern for the consumer and condemnation of "corporations engaging in bad business practices." are all over this place.

Go cheney yourself, punk. You're the same thing ya were when I got here: an ignorant, ill-informed, gop-slop spewin' knuckle-draggin' nitwit cyber bully who doesn't like it when somebody calls ya on your ignorant trash and hits ya back.

Get used to it, little fella. I'm gonna keep callin' ya on it and I'm sure you'll leave me no shortage of opportunities to do just that.

Always a pleasure.
 
Again, thanks for the continued display of humanity and goodwill. You are a sterling example for others to follow.

Rather than just copy your trite and rather vulgar postings could you reply to a simple request? Please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits?

Surely that should not be a problem to hold yourself to the same standard you tell others you are holding them to.

BTW...you do seem unusally grumpy this morning. Still feeling the effects of yesterday's Wild Irish Rose?
 
Obama rocks!
 
Obama rocks!

Why? what has he actually accomplished that qualifies him to rock?
 
oops. I wish I didn't post that. Upon further review, I think it makes me sound a little bit too much like JWcoop.

I think I need to send myself to my room and take away my telephone privileges for a week.
 
Anonymous said...

"Again, thanks for the continued display of humanity and goodwill. You are a sterling example for others to follow."

Always happy to help the Dim, the Clueless and the lame, little fella.

"Rather than just copy your trite and rather vulgar postings could you reply to a simple request?"

In other words, you need me to draw ya a map.

I have. Several times.

"Please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits?"

Ya mean like the clown who posted this slop: "BTW...you do seem unusally grumpy this morning. Still feeling the effects of yesterday's Wild Irish Rose?"?

That's what I thought.

"Surely that should not be a problem to hold yourself to the same standard you tell others you are holding them to."

Ya mean like the clown who posted this slop: "BTW...you do seem unusally grumpy this morning. Still feeling the effects of yesterday's Wild Irish Rose?"?

If ya don't like gettin' your head handed to ya on a regular basis come up with better arguments.

If ya keep handing me bupkis, get used to it. We're gonna be seein' a lot of each other.

I look forward to working you over.

Have a pleasant evening.
 
Coop said: Ya mean like the clown who posted this slop: "BTW...you do seem unusally grumpy this morning. Still feeling the effects of yesterday's Wild Irish Rose?"?


Oh BOO HOO JW...Did somebody say something mean to you? How uncivilized of them. Maybe you don't like getting the same treatment you routinely think is ok to hand out. You poor little baby.
 
"Rather than just copy your trite and rather vulgar postings could you reply to a simple request? Please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits?

Surely that should not be a problem to hold yourself to the same standard you tell others you are holding them to."

Do you have any proof to offer up yet JW or just more kind words?
 
This comment has been removed by the author.
 
Anonymous said...

"Rather than just copy your trite and rather vulgar postings could you reply to a simple request? Please provide proof of your qualifications to pass judgement on those who are scum, shmendriks, morons and nitwits?

You make yourselves readily apparent. I just point ya out. It ain't rocket science.

"Surely that should not be a problem to hold yourself to the same standard you tell others you are holding them to."

Ya mean like this clown:

Anonymous said... "I'm embarassed to be a Vermonter, between Dean and my state reps endorsing Muslims..... let's just invite Al Queda over to enjoy this great ski season."

"Do you have any proof to offer up yet JW or just more kind words?

Ya mean like the clown in the previously cited passage, little fella?

Always a pleasure.
 
Gee whiz JW. I take that response as a clear statement YOU HAVE NO PROOF, never did, never will.

Go back to the playground and bully your 5 year old friends
 
Anonymous said...

"Gee whiz JW. I take that response as a clear statement YOU HAVE NO PROOF, never did, never will."

Suit yourself, little fella. You can take anything you like.

You're gonna have to take it 'cause ya can't prove it.

That's 'cause you're an ignorant, ill-informed, knuckle-draggin' nitwit with no case, no proof and no hope that's too dim to realize when you've been smacked in the face with your own hypocrisy for the 479th time, little fraudulent fella.

Evidently, I've gotta draw ya another map.

It was abundantly clear that you had no clue, case or standards long before I got here in November, little fella.

Unlike you, I'll have no problem producing ample evidence of just that in the archives any time I want to take a stroll down memory lane, little factually-challenged fella.

You, on the other hand, have made it abundantly clear that you'll be reduced to fabricating quotes, changing the subject and coughing up your standard, "OK, maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and I don't have any evidence to prove you said what I'm unable to prove you said but you know you said it" comedy routines.

If it's not that, you'll be whinin' and cryin' like ya are in this pathetic little performance of yours:

Anonymous said...

"Oh my God. You're such a dishonest arguer it's pathetic."

No, that would be you, little anonymous struck out again fella.

That's why you can't produce the quotes or any evidence in any way shape or form to support your bogus assertions and you're reduced to fabricating quotes again, little lyin' sack o'ignorant gop-slop fraudulent fella.

"I never said what I said."

Evidently not, little fella.

If I had, you'd have me saying it instead of being reduced to fabricating quotes again.

I didn't. You don't. You can't.

You and the bubble boy were nothin' but ignorant cyber bullies used to havin' the run of the place when I got here in November and like bullies everywhere throughout history, you don't like it when I call ya on your ignorant trash and smack ya back.

Gee, that's a shame. Get used to it 'cause as long as you keep spewin' ignorant gop-slop nonsense you can't back up it's not gonna stop.


"Go back to the playground and bully your 5 year old friends"

Nah, Too much like work. They run around and tire me out too much.

I like smackin' you big kids around better. Ya got bupkis for punches and points and there's never any heavy lifting.

Given those facts, what's not to like?

Always a pleasure.
 
"Always a pleasure"

Man, you are stuck in a rut!
 
Anonymous said...

"Always a pleasure"

"Man, you are stuck in a rut!"

If that's the best ya can come up with for an argument, pal, you're doin' worse than the DOW.

Dismissed.

Feel better?
 
"If that's the best ya can come up with for an argument, pal, you're doin' worse than the DOW."

And exactly what arguments have you made in several months, little fella?

Calling people names is not an argument.
 
You are stuck in a rut (and I am not the person that suggested it the first time)
 
Anonymous said...

If that's the best ya can come up with for an argument, pal, you're doin' worse than the DOW.

"And exactly what arguments have you made in several months, little fella?"

"Calling people names is not an argument."

In other words, you don't like it when I call anonymous nitwits like you on your BS and point out the fact that you don't know what the hell you're talking about when you invariably demonstrate the fact that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Gee, that's a shame.
 
how about a nickname? so we readers can keep all the anon's straight.
 
""And exactly what arguments have you made in several months, little fella?"

"Calling people names is not an argument."

In other words, you don't like it when I call anonymous nitwits like you on your BS and point out the fact that you don't know what the hell you're talking about when you invariably demonstrate the fact that you don't know what the hell you're talking about."

In other words, you got bupkis.
 
JW is that you posting as anonymous?
 
??????????????
 
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