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5.25.2007

 

Bottled up

It’s hot, at least temporarily, here in Vermont and that probably has you yearning more than the usual amount for water. Perhaps even stopping into your local store and grabbing a bottle to go.

Time was when it never would have occurred to us to pay money for water, but you have to concede that water is healthier than soda. It does make you wonder, though, about all those bottles that we didn’t used to generate but now proliferate.

In Oregon, that kind of wondering is translating to an expansion of the bottle bill. The Oregon House endorsed a bill Thursday that the state Senate approved last month and the governor is expected to sign.

Under the bill, consumers would have to plunk down a 5-cent deposit on every bottle of water they buy, beginning in January 2009.

Vermont was an early champion of the bottle bill, which began here in 1973, but efforts to expand it to juices and teas have not gone far. Will it stay that way?

- Terri Hallenbeck

Comments:
I sure hope not. It makes absolutely no sense not to have deposits on non-carbonated beverages.
 
Frankly, I recycle everything I can. The five cents that used to serve as an incentive to recycle, is now just a bonus. It's not like I'd throw a soda can in the trash without the deposit. I'd still recycle it, of course.

Maybe instead of thinking about adding a deposit to plastic water bottles, we should consider removing the deposits on soda cans.

Then again, what would the poor people living out of shopping carts do for money if we did that? Seriously.
 
...Actually now that I think about it... if we removed the 5 cent deposits from soda cans, the soda company and / or the corner store would inflate the price immediately to make up the difference. Then I wouldn't get the five cents back.

Better just leave everything exactly the way it is.
 
Why not just recycle ALL cans and bottles instead of using up expensive gas to schlep the empties to a beverage container redemption center? One recycling truck leaves less of a carbon (or carbonated) footprint than thousands of cars carrying their empties around town! So drop the deposit altogether.
 
using up expensive gas to schlep the empties

A lot of people schlep the empties on a car trip they would have made anyway for other reasons. You should only consider the gas used on trips dedicated exclusively for the schlepping of empties. Also consider that a recycling truck doesn't have infinite load capacity. If you add what are now returnables to their current haul, how much more gas would be used in terms of weight on and extra trips for recycling trucks? Also how much energy is saved in reduced aluminum production because some bum went dumpster diving for a nickel? That wouldn't happen without the deposit. I tend to doubt the "wasted gas" argument is as strong as all that.

I say leave everything exactly the way it is.

It's a moderate compromise between the leftist commies who want a deposit on everything we touch, and the right wing wackos who want to eliminate all taxes, fines, fees and deposits- and then shoot you in the face.
 
Why doesn't the Legislature just ban the sale of carbonated beverages in Vermont? Some of the nanny-state Democratic members would love to do just that.
 
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